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nominal9
2nd August 2013, 18:32
Hello, I'm new... call myself nominal9....
Here's my overall take on political organization on the general level... a combination of Government / Economy.....
Democratic / Socialism........Totalitarian / Capitalism
Democratic / Capitalism.......Totalitarian / Socialism
The "square" positioning is meant to suggest Aristotle's "square" of logical opposition.
The Two-part "poles" are meant to suggest Ockham's "sign" theory of Conceptus / Res...putting it together was my notion (nix plagiarism)....
anyway... as to some broad definitions...
Democracy = one person one vote.
Totalitarianism = one person all the votes.
Socialism = one person one dollar.
Capitalism = one person all the dollars.
So, plug in what corner you think "European Model"... "Fascism" ... "U.S. Model"... and "Communism" would each fit into the above "square"..... and tell me which is all good... all bad... or half and half.....
Which "corner" would your "brand" of anarchism fall into????
Welcome :)
If you have political questions, you can ask them in the Learning forum. That's why it's there after all!
If you have questions about your account, don't hesitate to send me a PM or ask here.
I'm not sure I get your system though...
nominal9
5th August 2013, 17:14
Thank you..... Q....
As to my system.... I call it "nominal9 thematic dialectic logic".....I thought it up decades ago, mostly for analyzing stories or event accounts, but it works on non-fiction, too....like history and everyday affairs....
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/nominal9$20thematic$20dialectic$20logic/epistemology/Yh8UmRBbDRU/5MIMUuv0GsoJ
Here's a link to an example of my "method" at work analyzing the tale of Snow White, by Grimm.... this is a very rudimentary and rough example....but it should give you an overview of the fundamentals....
If you are interested, we can talk more about such things, at whatever level you like....
nominal9
5th August 2013, 17:25
Sorry, but it seems that I gave the wrong link, before. regarding my "method"...
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/nominal9$20thematic$20dialectic$20logic/humanities/2YYdPcw5_XE/5IYyiJQuOc8J
This above is a link to the Snow White analysis.... the other link was only one post.
But, upon trial... it seems that posted links do not work on this forum.... Sorry.....I know what I'm talking about, but the rest of you don't.... (HAR)
Sea
5th August 2013, 18:45
Good luck! :)
The Garbage Disposal Unit
5th August 2013, 19:26
I suspect you will have some extremely complicated conversations with the person who started this thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/dialectical-theory-everything-t179892/index.html). Perhaps together you will reach mind-blowing new conclusions that I will one day attempt to grasp with the aid of LSD.
nominal9
6th August 2013, 16:08
Thank you Sea... nice to meet you... I remember that old reprobate on your avatar (HAR).
nominal9
6th August 2013, 16:15
Thank you Virgin Molotov Cocktail, nice to meet you as well.... I'm partial to "bomb-throwing anarchists"... I have called myself one such, more than once....
As to discussions with "the person who started this thread"... I look forward to it, as well as with anyone else... whoever he or she may be.....I've never have taken LSD, so it should not be a prerequisite for you to understand my "method".... actually, it mostly comes down to fairly common.... common sen sense......
Decolonize The Left
6th August 2013, 16:31
Hello, I'm new... call myself nominal9....
Here's my overall take on political organization on the general level... a combination of Government / Economy.....
Democratic / Socialism........Totalitarian / Capitalism
Democratic / Capitalism.......Totalitarian / Socialism
The "square" positioning is meant to suggest Aristotle's "square" of logical opposition.
The Two-part "poles" are meant to suggest Ockham's "sign" theory of Conceptus / Res...putting it together was my notion (nix plagiarism)....
anyway... as to some broad definitions...
Democracy = one person one vote.
Totalitarianism = one person all the votes.
Socialism = one person one dollar.
Capitalism = one person all the dollars.
So, plug in what corner you think "European Model"... "Fascism" ... "U.S. Model"... and "Communism" would each fit into the above "square"..... and tell me which is all good... all bad... or half and half.....
Which "corner" would your "brand" of anarchism fall into????
While I respect and applaud your efforts at devising a new system for classifying and understanding political organization, I must say that your system is far too simplistic and absolutist to be of any real use.
Brieftly: A Marxist perspective views government as wholly representing the interests of capital, hence, in your system, it cannot be 'separated' from the economy with a '/' but is integrated into it fully and substantially.
Perhaps more briefly: democracy and totalitarianism are not separate ends of a political spectrum, any more than socialism and capitalism are separate ends of an economic spectrum. I believe this is the fundamental flaw in your theory: you assume that these four systems can be used as categorical bases for understanding all other systems. This is a limited approach.
Good luck, and welcome to the board.
The Garbage Disposal Unit
6th August 2013, 16:36
Thank you Virgin Molotov Cocktail, nice to meet you as well.... I'm partial to "bomb-throwing anarchists"... I have called myself one such, more than once....
As to discussions with "the person who started this thread"... I look forward to it, as well as with anyone else... whoever he or she may be.....I've never have taken LSD, so it should not be a prerequisite for you to understand my "method".... actually, it mostly comes down to fairly common.... common sen sense......
Sorry, not a shot at you - just a shot at my head for scientific/philosophical methods.
That said, mayhaps a bit of a longer lay introduction would be useful? I can't honestly say I know anything about Ockham's sign theory, or Aristotle's square.
nominal9
7th August 2013, 17:07
No need to say Sorry... no offense was given or taken.... besides, I try to develop a thick skin... As to Ockham, he was a scholastic monk, I like him for the manner in which he thinks (his method) instead of his actual conclusions as to specific notions or questions (his ideology, say). Basically, Manoir demes reves got on the right track.... Ockham's thought as to method set the stage for modern scientific categorization... especially in areas like biology and the like... from the specific individual "thing" and up to the "abstracted" species... genus.... and on...
That's another important part of Ockham's method, in addition to the Conceptus / Res distinction.... the difference between intuitive (call it empirical) understanding of one physical thing as distinguished from the universal (call it abstracted) knowledge of the general class of things....
See what I mean?... method, mostly.... not actual conclusions at this stage....
nominal9
8th August 2013, 18:30
I thought I also posted a reply to Manoir de mes reves, yesterday.... I must have done something wrong on the word processor... or maybe it hasn't cleared, yet... Too bad, it was sort of "involved"....
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