Assorted Oppositions

[Daniel191]

This is just a thread of all my personal oppositions to the extremist liberalism shown here.

First off, I'd like to say that I'm not here as a troll, nor do I intend to provoke or anger anybody, I wish to hold an actual, intelligent conversation over politics.

One of the first threads I read on here was; what are the differences between white supremacism and nationalism. The answer to this is very straightforward, as it's in the names. I, personally am a Caucasian nationalist; that being said, the two are very different. As a caucasian nationalist, I'm proud of being who I am, and I don't want to allow society to shame me for being born a certain way. Even though I'm a rightist, I look down upon supremacists for implying that ANY race is better or worse than another; supremacists are just angry little bigots running around with no education. Hopefully, that clears up that issue.

The next issue is cultural marxism. This, I personally believe, is a very important issue in Europe (My opinions on Europe and the US vary greatly). Many people, such as most members of this forum, continue to press for "multiculturalism" in a place where it simply cannot work. Although, yes, immigration can solve short term economic problems, down the road, it will create major issues and destroy the fabric of societies. We see this today in Germany. In the 1960s and 70s, millions of Turkish workers flooded into Germany on temporary work visas, and the German economy boomed, becoming even more powerful in such a short time after being destroyed and carved up. Today in Germany, those same Turks are still there, bringing their families and Islam over, abusing German children in schools, and some are even attempting to enforce sharia law. In the Netherlands, there's a community in Den Haag which is entirely patrolled by Sharia enforcers, Dutch police aren't even allowed in there. In Sweden and the UK, these immigrants riot and destroy cities and property of the nations that are providing a substantial amount of welfare to them.

This is not being aimed at Turks as a race, but as a culture. It is also Somalians and Pakistanis causing trouble. I'm not a supremacist of any kind, but I believe that every race and culture has a right to exist in it's own area free of oppression. I don't want to sound like the typical babbling Neo-Nazi idiots, but why should Europe be the only place required to allow in floods of immigrants? What about in South Africa, where over 3,800 Afrikaner farmers were killed, and nobody mentioned it? But when Trayvon Martin, a black kid that threatened a hispanic man (Zimmerman isn't even caucasian, so there really is no need to hate or riot about him) was shot in self defense, the entire country rises up and riots, then when a fair verdict is called through a jury, they riot and pull race and even gender into the issue?

My point here is that Islam does not belong, and does not work with European culture. Multiculturalism does not fix issues or promote equality, it creates hate and causes problems. The US, the most "diverse" country in the world, had slavery and segregation until the 1960s, and even today. I have alot of friends in Germany (where there's hardly any Africans) who love Africans and enjoy talking to them. That surely isn't a coincidence? Those same German friends of mine that like Africans, greatly dislike Muslims because they're in Germany causing trouble. They rape European women because "they're whores who are gonna get raped anyway", then riot and burn cars and buildings because they don't get enough welfare, and then the same liberals who let them in are the ones that suppress freedom of speech because it "offends" them??

That takes me to my next point, freedom of speech. In my understanding, the modern liberal ideology is not actually leftist, but I see it as far right. Liberalism goes to great extents to censor and control opinions and speech, despite claiming to support freedom of speech. In Europe, people are arrested and jailed for "hate speech", in countries where they guarantee "freedom of speech". How does this differ from fascists? I pull alot of my personal social views from liberalism, but when it comes to government issues, I'm on the right.

Once again, I don't come here as a "hurr durr white supremacist bigot making false claims about privileged whites" which I'm sure I'll be accused of being. I come here as a political intellectual interested in having conversation with people who are opposite my ideology.

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This is just a thread of all my personal oppositions to the extremist liberalism shown here.

For one, we aren't liberals.


First off, I'd like to say that I'm not here as a troll, nor do I intend to provoke or anger anybody, I wish to hold an actual, intelligent conversation over politics.

I doubt that, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.


One of the first threads I read on here was; what are the differences between white supremacism and nationalism. The answer to this is very straightforward, as it's in the names. I, personally am a Caucasian nationalist; that being said, the two are very different. As a caucasian nationalist, I'm proud of being who I am, and I don't want to allow society to shame me for being born a certain way.

Your answer to dealing with problems like that (however, you, being Caucasian, can't know how horrible it is to be black or Hispanic or any other minority) is wrong.


Even though I'm a rightist, I look down upon supremacists for implying that ANY race is better or worse than another; supremacists are just angry little bigots running around with no education.

You aren't better. I would argue that you're the same.


Hopefully, that clears up that issue.

You have only made statements, not given proof or examples or anything, just your words. So nothing has been cleared.


The next issue is cultural marxism.

Watch out you're about to use this word wron-


This, I personally believe, is a very important issue in Europe (My opinions on Europe and the US vary greatly). Many people, such as most members of this forum, continue to press for "multiculturalism"

Damn, you did use it wrong.

While I know not much about cultural Marxism, my understanding of it is that it simply states that existing societal norms are used to legitimize oppression. It doesn't mean multiculturalism.

However, anarchists, communists, etc... Do support multiculturalism.


in a place where it simply cannot work. Although, yes, immigration can solve short term economic problems, down the road, it will create major issues and destroy the fabric of societies.

Why?


We see this today in Germany. In the 1960s and 70s, millions of Turkish workers flooded into Germany on temporary work visas, and the German economy boomed, becoming even more powerful in such a short time after being destroyed and carved up. Today in Germany, those same Turks are still there,

Provide proof for all your claims, please.


bringing their families

Why is this a problem?


and Islam over,

Why is this a problem?


abusing German children in schools,

Provide proof.


and some are even attempting to enforce sharia law.

First thing: I need proof.

Second thing: as opposed to Christians trying to impose their anti-abortion laws? Or trying to impose laws that make it illegal to teach evolution?

Third thing: those would be the minority, the extremists.


In the Netherlands, there's a community in Den Haag which is entirely patrolled by Sharia enforcers, Dutch police aren't even allowed in there.

Though I doubt this is true, I'd like to read about it.

Again, those are the extremists, not the average muslim.


In Sweden and the UK, these immigrants riot and destroy cities and property

Proof.

Also, look at any riot in those country, and how many white kids are participating. Riots are riots, they're not central to one demographic.


of the nations that are providing a substantial amount of welfare to them.

You know the drill: proof. Give me the numbers.

Also, if they are receiving welfare, they need it. It's not easy (or fun) to be on welfare.


This is not being aimed at Turks as a race, but as a culture. It is also Somalians and Pakistanis

So, non-whites.


causing trouble.

What about the white people who cause trouble?


I'm not a supremacist of any kind,

You know, other than the kind that thinks whites are the best.


but I believe that every race and culture has a right to exist in it's own area free of oppression.

Also free from the opportunities that come along with living in more developed countries.


I don't want to sound like the typical babbling Neo-Nazi idiots

Too late.


but why should Europe be the only place required to allow in floods of immigrants?

Umm... Europe isn't. Everywhere accepts immigrants (some places have require you have to pass, but they do). But just cause they accept them does not mean they are treated equally.


What about in South Africa, where over 3,800 Afrikaner farmers were killed

Proof.

Also read the history of South Africa.

Then do a little materialist analysis and realize that those conditions would have led ANY race or nationality to perform those se actions.


and nobody mentioned it?

Apparently the white suprema- "Caucasian Nationalists" did.


But when Trayvon Martin, a black kid that threatened a hispanic man

After Zimmerman followed him, with a gun, thereby threatening his life.


(Zimmerman isn't even caucasian, so there really is no need to hate or riot about him)

He was white passing. And just cause you're Hispanic doesn't mean you're not racist.


was shot in self defense,

Which wouldn't have been required if he hasn't followed Martin with a gun.


the entire country rises up and riots, then when a fair verdict is called through a jury, they riot and pull race and even gender into the issue?

This is a good thing, to have "riots" (they were barely riots). It shows our country is thinking.


My point here is that Islam does not belong, and does not work with European culture.

Why?


Multiculturalism does not fix problems or promote equality, it creates hate and causes problems.

Proof and explanation of said proof is needed.


The US, the most "diverse" country in the world, had slavery and segregation until the 1960s, and even today. I have alot of friends in Germany (where there's hardly any Africans) who love Africans and enjoy talking to them. That surely isn't a coincidence?

Yo, in the US (where I'm from) there are parts of this country where there is a lot of racism, but there are parts where there is not nearly as much.

Also, using hypothetical friends from Germany is not proof.


Those same German friends of mine that like Africans, greatly dislike Muslims because they're in Germany causing trouble. They rape European women because "they're whores who are gonna get raped anyway", then riot

Burden of proof is on you buddy.


and burn cars and buildings because they don't get enough welfare,

If they are rioting or protesting, it is because they are fighting for equal rights in a country that, based on what you've said, is continuing it's history or intolerance of minorities.


and then the same liberals who let them in are the ones that suppress freedom of speech because it "offends" them??

I doubt that the reason they are removing free speech in Germany, relates to the minorities there. and if it does, that's not the reason. It's because it adds to the system of institutionalized oppression that is designed to keep them down.

Also government everywhere are removing freedom of speech, for various reasons.

Anyway, I'm really glad I finished replying to all your stupid shit...


That takes me to my next point,

OH FUCK THERE'S MORE?!?!?


freedom of speech. In my understanding, the modern liberal

We aren't liberals.


ideology is not actually leftist, but I see it as far right. Liberalism goes to great extents to censor and control opinions and speech, despite claiming to support freedom of speech.

Support this with facts.


In Europe

Europe is not an example of what we want.


people are arrested and jailed for "hate speech", in countries where they guarantee "freedom of speech".

I doubt they are jailed. Prove it.


How does this differ from fascists?

Well, in a lot of ways. There is so many ways that it differs, that I think you should go read some of Mussolini's writing, or any number or texts produced by socialists, communists, and anarchists about fascism.


I pull alot of my personal social views from liberalism

No you don't, assuming that by liberalism you mean leftism.


I'm on the right.

You sure are.


Once again, I don't come here as a "hurr durr white supremacist bigot making false claims about privileged whites" which I'm sure I'll be accused of being. I come here as a political intellectual interested in having conversation with people who are opposite my ideology.

I'm interested in your reply, however you totally came off as a white supremacist bigot (because that's what you are).

[d3crypt]

So you think people of different "races" can't coexist? Why is this? Also you clearly don't understand cultural marxism.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

OP banned for far-right, fascist views.

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