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blake 3:17
29th July 2013, 02:50
There've been far too many deaths as the result of Toronto police actions over the years. In some cases, like this one, action was warranted, but there was no need for lethal violence. In the aftermath of other needless deaths, community activists and some parts of police services have helped establish alternative ways of dealing with people in distress and are not in danger to others. Poor bugger was shot at 9 or 10 times and Tasered. From the article below: 'Campbell, who was within inches of the knife when it was being brandished, said he thought the victim was crying out for help.
I dont think he wanted to hurt anybody, he said. He could have hurt people and he didnt.'


Man dies in street showdown with police
Sammy Yatim, 18, is identified by friends as the person slain after late-night knife confrontation.

Although its not clear what happened on the 505 streetcar just before police opened fire, one thing is certain: Sammy Yatim, 18, is dead.
Duff Campbell, who was on that westbound streetcar on Friday night, said a young man later identified by friends as Yatim brandished a knife and ordered everyone off west of Bathurst St., near Trinity Bellwoods Park. Minutes later, police boarded the streetcar and fired several rounds.
From the moment the girls screamed to the moment the kid was dead it was like two minutes, said.
Yatim was killed around midnight, when police were called to investigate an incident aboard a streetcar travelling west on Dundas St. W., according the provinces Special Investigation Unit, which looks into incidents resulted in injury and death involving police and civilians.
Yatim was transported to St. Michaels Hospital and he was later pronounced dead from multiple gunshot wounds at the hospital.
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We understand that there was an interaction involving the male and officers and as part of that interaction a police firearm was discharged and the male was struck, SIU spokesperson Jasbir Brar told CP24 reporters Saturday morning.
When Heather and Martin Baron first saw a stalled streetcar, they just thought it was broken down. But as they got closer, they saw about five officers swarming the front door of the streetcar, yelling at a knife-wielding man beside the drivers seat, Drop the knife! Drop the knife!
Next they heard numerous gunshots in succession. Martin Baron saw the young man standing at the front of the streetcar when the police opened fire.
After the first shot, he didnt see Yatim anymore.
Everything happened within seconds. A police officer got on the streetcar from the back door. Another from the front. We heard (the sound of a) Taser and then more gunshots, said Heather Baron, who, along with her husband, recorded the police confrontation with their iPhones and posted the video online.
Its really unfortunate. Its upsetting to see somebody shot like that.
Rosemary Pimentel has lived at the same house on Bellwoods Ave. since she was four years old, but she said shes never seen anything like this.
It was insane, it was like a movie, she said.
She was in her room late Friday night when she said she heard someone say drop your weapon and then, almost immediately, a series of gunshots. She remembers hearing a Taser, but she said she thought she heard it after the gunshots.
Ambulances came to the scene within minutes and onlookers watched in horror as paramedics performed CPR and then loaded the victim onto a stretcher to be taken to hospital.
Campbell, who was within inches of the knife when it was being brandished, said he thought the victim was crying out for help.
I dont think he wanted to hurt anybody, he said. He could have hurt people and he didnt.
Majed Yatim, who identified himself as Sammy Yatims uncle, said he was still dealing with his nephew's sudden death.
It's unbelievable. He was just a child, he told the Star Sunday morning. "I am still grieving right now."
He said that Sammy and his family moved to Canada from Syria four or five years ago.

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/07/28/man_dies_in_street_showdown_with_police.html

blake 3:17
29th July 2013, 03:12
Rally Monday

Monday
Time17:00

Rain 20C / 15C
Description
NOTE: In coordination with the friends and family of Sammy, this event has been changed to start at Dundas Square at 5pm, it will then march to Dundas and Bellwoods for around 6:30pm. Please meet us at either location.

On Friday night Toronto Police shot and killed 18 year old Sammy Yatim on a 505 streetcar at Dundas and Bellwoods. This is an emergency vigil/march to demand justice for Sammy and an end to police violence.

We will gather at the site of the shooting and march to 14 Division - the cops responsible for killing Sammy and others before him including Edmond Yu who was also shot by police on the TTC in 1997.

Bring candles and signs.

Compilation of everyone murdered by Toronto Police: http://bit.ly/KilledbyTorontoPolice and Factsheet on Police violence against the African community in Canada: http://toronto.mediacoop.ca/blog/ajamu-nangwaya/18378

blake 3:17
29th July 2013, 03:13
Video of the shooting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4In494rAg

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
29th July 2013, 03:18
Video of the shooting: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4In494rAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi4In494rAg)

lol pigs, why do they always just keep firing? Disgusting. None of them was even very close to the tram...

blake 3:17
29th July 2013, 03:39
I heard about it late Friday. Rumours were flying, and -- wtf -- was gonna give them some benefit of the doubt. But no. This is vicious and ugly and brutal. They had him caged in and could've easily waited him out. Stupid asshole murderers.

Lots of us have been talking about the despicable police killing of Edmond Yu on a public transit vehicle not far from where this went down back in 97. That brother was deeply schizophrenic, kept losing housing because his odd behaviour bothered people, fair enough in one way, not the other, and the fucking pigs killed in him on a bus, because one of them lost their balance on some steps in the mid section and one at the front panicked. 6 shots. 3 hits. One to the head. Yu had a toy hammer on him and was acting weird.

There's been a bunch since. In most, some kind of outside intervention was required. Somebody was acting in strange and threatening ways, people are scared, it needs to be dealt with. But you don't fucking start shooting somebody who isn't a threat to anybody but themselves. Creeps.

blake 3:17
1st August 2013, 00:53
The march on Monday was good and very powerful. A lot of people over many hours. When I joined it, I'd guess around 1500, and people had come and gone and others joined later, so a lot of people. A lot of anger and a lot of sadness.

Yesterday went by where the shooting happened. Some lovely tributes to Sammy's life were there, and to the end of irrational police violence.

A bit of a round up:

Guy who risked himself to get the street car evacuated and says there was no real danger---
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/toronto-witness-recalls-scene-on-streetcar-before-sammy-yatims-death/article13522919/

Cop who shot him to death identified: http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2013/07/30/toronto_police_officer_who_shot_sammy_yatim_identi fied.html

Good article on how poorly supervised police are: http://rabble.ca/news/2013/07/enough-enough-time-public-to-police-police

Good editorial from the conservative Globe & Mail: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/editorials/sammy-yatim-the-questions-for-the-police/article13514528/

d3crypt
1st August 2013, 01:00
Seems like they murder another person everyday :(

tachosomoza
1st August 2013, 03:02
Seems like they murder another person everyday :(

They do, in the US I wouldn't be surprised if the cops kill 4 or five people a day, most black/brown, all prole, all unnecessarily.

blake 3:17
1st August 2013, 04:26
There's an action planned for August 13. 40 College St. 1pm.

The Ontario Federation of Labour has endorsed.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 31, 2013

OFL Says the Toronto Police Services Board’s Failure to Follow Report Recommendations Led Directly to Death of Sammy Yatim
(TORONTO, ON) – The Ontario Federation of Labour (OFL) called the police shooting of Sammy Yatim a total failure of the Toronto policing system. In the wake of the fatal shooting of the distressed teen, the OFL is calling for an independent investigation and a total overhaul of police training and response to mental illness.

“Just like the police response to the G20 in 2010, this incident is a failure of the entire policing system, from the Police Services Board to the Chief and right down to the front lines,” said OFL President Sid Ryan. “The dangerous consequences of police over-reactions to mental illness has been thoroughly examined and a road map for reform has already been written, yet none of this made any difference on the streets of Toronto last Saturday. One more life has been senselessly lost.”

In 2002, a ground-breaking conference organized by the Urban Alliance on Race Relations and co-sponsored by numerous community agencies and organizations, including the Toronto Police Service, produced a definitive report called “Saving Lives: Alternatives to the Use of Lethal Force by Police.” The report’s 27 recommendations cover everything from changing police attitudes to crisis containment and conflict resolution. However, the several police shootings in the years since are evidence that the vast majority of recommendations are not being followed.

“It is a total breakdown in the policing system. All of the best advice of the experts is being ignored,” said Ryan. “Years ago, community outrage at police killings resulted in the introduction of tasers as an alternative to guns. The sad irony is that last weekend, Toronto police used a taser on someone in the midst of mental distress only after shooting him multiple times.”

As details of the incident emerge, questions regarding the handling of the situation continue to grow, including concern over the use of deadly force by Toronto police against the Syrian-born youth who, by all accounts, did not pose any immediate threat to officers or bystanders.

“This 18-year-old boy did not have to die,” said OFL Executive Vice-President Irwin Nanda. “Thanks to the graphic video evidence available, we can see the events unfold, but we are left with many questions about why this incident resulted in tragedy. Who was in charge of the scene? Why didn’t officers try to de-escalate the situation before responding with deadly force? Why was a Mobile Crisis Unit not called in? Why didn’t the Emergency Task Force take control of the scene? Why is only one officer being investigated when a second officer tasered the victim after he was shot? All of these questions allude to a systemic problem with the overall police response.”

At least a dozen people in mental crisis have been shot by Toronto police over the past twenty years. The Ontario Federation of Labour believes that change is only going to come when the entire police culture is changed and when the Toronto Police Service Board fully implements and follows the recommendations of the “Saving Lives” report, to which it was a signatory.

Concerned community members will hold a rally outside the Toronto Police Services Board at 40 College Street at 1:00 pm on Tuesday, August 13, 2013.

“Our hearts and condolences go out to the Yatim family but if any good can come from these tragic events, let it be that not another life is lost in vain,” said Nanda.

The Ontario Federation of Labour (OFL) represents 54 unions and one million workers in Ontario. For information, visit www.OFL.ca and follow the OFL on Facebook and Twitter: @OFLabour.

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For further information:

Joel Duff, Communications Director, OFL: 416-707-0349 (cell) *FRENCH/ENGLISH*

Sudsy
1st August 2013, 04:38
I'm glad people are doing something in Toronto. I was there today and saw the exact spot he was shot, besides posters by that corner, I was surprised there was no demonstrations. But overall I care more that the cop is punished how he deserves to be.

blake 3:17
1st August 2013, 04:40
The march was big on Monday. We're gearing up for the 13th. I believe the funeral's tomorrow.

blake 3:17
1st August 2013, 04:46
And we're looking at more than the cop who shot him. Another one tasered him after he was shot.

When I was at the spot yesterday looking at the memorial, some pig from 14 division drove by and started honking his horn for no reason. Fucker.

There's a lot of sadness. I work a few blocks from where the shooting happened and have friends who heard the shots and its scary. Haven't been this nervous of the police in a long while.

Sudsy
1st August 2013, 04:53
Yeah, of course, I saw the video it was completely stupid and evil. I know its pessimistic, but unless people REALLY REALLY push I don't think those responsible will get much punishment. It's happened time and time again the same way.

blake 3:17
2nd August 2013, 00:55
Lots of us have been pushing for a long time and will keep doing so. There's been a bunch of barbaric actions by Toronto police in recent years, but the fact that there were so many witnesses and that it was caught on more than one video helps. There's been a breach of a sense of fairness that's pretty widespread.

The pressure's going to be coming from the bottom up, but the Globe editorial is pretty interesting. Judges pay attention to Globe and Mail editorials, even if the rest of the world doesn't much.

blake 3:17
26th January 2016, 02:52
The verdict came down today. First time a cop here has been convicted in a shooting death. I'm too sad and angry to try to be rational at this point

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/01/25/jury-returns-in-murder-trial-for-const-james-forcillo-charged-in-shooting-death-of-sammy-yatim.html

The Intransigent Faction
26th January 2016, 03:02
Just think: Soon, these people will be carrying dozens of new semi-automatic rifles.

Mental illness is enough of a struggle of its own, but add police to the equation...:(