Does anyone here fish?

[Bostana]

Does anyone here have fishing as a hobby?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Yes, I fish. As an occupation, though, not a hobby. I actually hate sports fishing, although I've done my fair share of it.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I just like to stab fish and get drunk.

[Os Cangaceiros]

boy oh boy, have I got the career for you

[Bostana]

I like the sound of the career that OS has

[Fourth Internationalist]

I think fishing is mean.

[MarxSchmarx]

I used to go fishing a lot as a child/adolescent. Mostly for eel, tuna, salmon and sea bream. I quit though, last time I went seriously I got majorly sea sick and was puking my guts out. Occasionally I will go out into the ocean with others on a real dingy motorboat to see what we can catch or off on the pier to try our luck. Then I moved somewhere where you had to get government permission to fish, and I figured, to hell with it. Haven't gone in a very long time. Often I miss it.

[Bostana]

I think fishing is mean.

Why?
I was always told fish can't feel pain.

But this didn't mean we beat the shit out of them

[slum]

used to, not really feasible where i live now; if i go fishing it's because i want to eat what i catch.

[Igor]

i used to a lot more when i was a kid but it isn't as feasible/enjoyable here in the city and i don't visit my family in the countryside anywhere as near often nowadays

i do it to get to eat the fish and because i really really enjoy fishing intself

[Fourth Internationalist]

Why?
I was always told fish can't feel pain.

But this didn't mean we beat the shit out of them

They do. Their mouth is actually one of their most sensitive areas.

[Bostana]

They do. Their mouth is actually one of their most sensitive areas.

Oh well.
Got to eat somehow

[The Feral Underclass]

Yes, I fish. As an occupation, though, not a hobby. I actually hate sports fishing, although I've done my fair share of it.

What is it you do?

[The Feral Underclass]

Oh well.
Got to eat somehow

So grow some vegetables.

[Bostana]

So grow some vegetables.

True :lol:

Do you fish?
I always had you for someone who fishes

[Os Cangaceiros]

What is it you do?

Harvest salmon.

On a good day we'll move 20,000+ pounds of product in a day.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I'm a country boy, so of course I fish! :grin:

Mostly catfish. Sometimes bass. But mostly just catfish. They do grow em big here in Georgia.

Also love frying them for supper. Them's good eatin'.

[The Feral Underclass]

True :lol:

Do you fish?
I always had you for someone who fishes

Vegan and animal liberationist.

[The Feral Underclass]

Harvest salmon.

On a good day we'll move 20,000+ pounds of product in a day.

Is it good money?

[Os Cangaceiros]

Well, yes and no. About a decade ago the price hit an all time low, on the heels of a failed strike by fishermen around these parts. But it's been slowly coming back, and it's actually not bad this year. Processing companies still sell pounds of salmon for about 20x the price they pay us, though.

[Bostana]

Vegan and animal liberationist.

Ah Ok.
I'm against animal cruelty too comrade. Are you just against not eating meat because you think killing animals is wrong? Or is it because the way the farm corps treat them?

[The Feral Underclass]

Ah Ok.
I'm against animal cruelty too comrade.

You can't credibly be against animal cruelty and then not care that you are inflicting suffering on living animals. Also, I think hunting (fishing) and killing then eating animals constitutes as cruelty.


Are you just against not eating meat because you think killing animals is wrong? Or is it because the way the farm corps treat them?

I am fundamentally opposed to the principle that other animals can/should/deserve to be dominated by humans.

[Bostana]

You can't credibly be against animal cruelty and then not care that you are inflicting suffering on living animals. Also, I think hunting (fishing) and killing then eating animals constitutes as cruelty..

But isn't that just nature? I mean humans have been hunting animals forever

[The Feral Underclass]

But isn't that just nature? I mean humans have been hunting animals forever

Humans have also been raping, murdering, waging wars, exploiting, brutalising and oppressing pretty much forever too. You are correct that in nature other species hunt each other, but other species also engage in incest, infanticide and rape.

Nature is, as far as humans are concerned, a construct that is constantly shifting and essentially indefinable, or rather it's definable in any way you want to construct the concept of "nature." What is natural now was not natural even fifty years ago and certainly wasn't natural a hundred or five hundred of two thousand years ago.

Moreover, in the world of non-human animals those non-human animals do not seek to dominate other species, they simply use other species as a means to survive (something we do not need to do). The structures of domination that humans have built to subjugate other species is not found any where else on the planet, not even remotely. Lions do not keep Zebras locked up, starved and tortured in order to eat them. In that sense there is absolutely nothing that is natural about what we do to other species of animal.

Lastly, human beings are sapient. That means we can conceptualise our environment and our existences within it. We have defined parameters of ethics and we operate with the abilities to reason. We can therefore make decisions on how we understand domination and what our response to it should be.

As any rational, forward thinking person should do, the way we interact with other species should be something we all bring into question, even if it is to get a better understanding of who and what we are as a species on a planet inhabited by many others.

[Bostana]

Fair enough