What are your thoughts on the Japan-China tensions?

[CatsAttack]

They are fighting over some rocks that Japan controls. What should the policy of Japanese Marxists be?

[Agathor]

Indifference.

[CatsAttack]

Indifference.

Yeah, the second and third largest economies in the world are on the brink of war but why should you care. Maybe you should join IndiffLeft.com?

[roy]

Well what exactly are you after, support for either the Chinese or Japanese state in this matter or?

[tuwix]

They are fighting over some rocks that Japan controls. What should the policy of Japanese Marxists be?

It's stupid attempt of American imperialism to punish China for their economic growth. Japan have no interest in such rocks but some imperialists provoced all that events.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Yeah, the second and third largest economies in the world are on the brink of war but why should you care. Maybe you should join IndiffLeft.com?

I wouldn't say one's approach should be "indifference" per se but neither country is doing something "Revolutionary" in claiming rocks in the middle of the ocean surrounded by good fishing grounds based on 500 year old maps. It's based on nationalist and capitalist motives on the part of both countries. The main difference for the working class is whether the fishermen of Japan or the fishermen of China will be allowed to go in those waters unmolested.

[CatsAttack]

They are fighting over some rocks that Japan controls. What should the policy of Japanese Marxists be?


Well what exactly are you after, support for either the Chinese or Japanese state in this matter or?

You got some serious soul searching to do if you think supporting either state is the only option.

[Paul Pott]

Chinese imperialism is a rising force throughout the world, and Japanese imperialism is just starting to reawaken, like German imperialism in the EU. This is only the first such flare up in tensions between these two states. One wants to become a global superpower and the other wants to carve out its own sphere of influence within the American camp in eastern Asia.

Our position should be to oppose them both, obviously.

[CatsAttack]

Chinese imperialism is a rising force throughout the world, and Japanese imperialism is just starting to reawaken, like German imperialism. This is only the first such tension.

Our position should be to oppose them both, obviously.

Finally! A post that adds something to the discussion.

1. How do you say we go about opposing them? What should Chinese and Japanese socialists do?

2. How do you rate the relation of forces between these two powers?

[Paul Pott]

1. Same as we oppose American imperialism.

2. You mean like military might? China would probably steamroll Japan if it didn't have access to American aid and intelligence.

[roy]

You got some serious soul searching to do if you think supporting either state is the only option.

I mean of course we oppose imperialism, whatever our opposition adds up to in reality, I thought it would go without saying. Sorry

[tachosomoza]

Yeah, the second and third largest economies in the world are on the brink of war but why should you care. Maybe you should join IndiffLeft.com?

Not on the brink of war. Conventional wars between economically powerful nations ended with WWII. All we have had since then are proxy wars between the USSR/Russia and the United States and ethnic conflicts/civil wars in the third world. Japan has only a husk of a military for self-defense.

With that aside, it's just imperialist saber rattling and chest beating from two historically imperialistic states, one being a totalitarian, capitalist state with a huge army and the other being a democratic capitalist state that's under the thumb of the USA. The policy should be to consider it a nonconsequential distraction and focus on actual issues affecting the Japanese proletariat and continue to build class consciousness.