4th of July

[Althusser]

So it's Independence Day here in the U.S. and goddamn... is it annoying to see all the patriotic founding father worship on my facebook feed. Anyone have any good quotes or pieces of information to screw with these people? Maybe about how "all men" translates to "all white landowning men," and about the founding father's opinions of Africans and the indigenous.

[Fourth Internationalist]

I'd just say let them have their fun. There's nothing more annoying than hearing someone whine over celebration, regardless of how stupid said celebration is.

[Ele'ill]

I'd just say let them have their fun. There's nothing more annoying than hearing someone whine over celebration, regardless of how stupid said celebration is.

yeah I mean I think the point was that the celebration is more annoying

[Fourth Internationalist]

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[Fourth Internationalist]

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." - A man who owned other men.

[Akshay!]

"What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July? I answer; a day that reveals to him, more than all other days in the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him, your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty, an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your denunciation of tyrants, brass fronted impudence; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mockery; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are, to Him, mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy-a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation on the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of the United States, at this very hour."

- Frederick Douglass (July 4, 1852)

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

"The history of modern, civilised America opened with one of those great, really liberating, really revolutionary wars..." - V. I. Lenin

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

" The compatriots of the entire country,
All men are created equal; they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights; among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
This immortal statement was made in the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America[/URL] in 1776. In a broader sense, this means: All the peoples on the earth are equal from birth, all the peoples have a right to live, to be happy and free.
The Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_Citizen"] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America) of the French Revolution made in 1791 also states: All men are born free and with equal rights, and must always remain free and have equal rights.
Those are undeniable truths."

- Ho Chi Minh, from 'The Proclamation of Independence of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam'.

[Rocky Rococo]

I love to share this one with "patriots". President John Quincy Adams: http://www.presidentialrhetoric.com/historicspeeches/adams_jq/foreignpolicy.html



But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.

She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.

She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.

She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.

She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.

The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force....

She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit....

[Jimmie Higgins]

I like hot dogs and illegal fireworks and can ignore the nationalism... frankly, there's more patriotism during the Olypics than on the 4th of July which is about as nationalistic as Christmas shopping season is theological.