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Ahura Mazda
10th January 2004, 18:04
Say you are given a choice. It does not matter what the circumstances are that bring about this choice; it doesn't matter. It is only the situation. The choice: The ten people closest to you will die, or 1000 intellectuals who would advance your precious faith you call communism you have never known and never would have known die.

So, what would you choose? :D

monkeydust
10th January 2004, 18:06
The 1000 intellectuals but I fail to see how this question is relevant to anything at all.

Ahura Mazda
10th January 2004, 18:09
You choose between yourself and the revolucion.


Why would you choose this, considering your family and friends that were the ten would die in front of you (forgot to mention that)?

monkeydust
10th January 2004, 18:18
Because I respect the fact that these 1000 others are the family and friends of many more people than myself. Whilst I would never choose to lose the ten people closest to me, I don't think it's fair to inflict this on a scale 100 times larger. It would only be a case of me being selfish.

having said that if the case did arise (I'm not saying it would) I'm not so sure I'd be able to choose this way.

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
10th January 2004, 22:01
I guess i'd have to pick the ten people closest to me :(

canikickit
10th January 2004, 22:08
I would chose to avoid stupid hypothetical situations.

Vinny Rafarino
10th January 2004, 22:12
Agreed cani. Make believe scenarios were fun only until GI Joe came out with the kung-fu grip.

BuyOurEverything
10th January 2004, 23:47
Would these 1000 intellectuals actually create a worldwide socialist revolution? Would a socialist revolution happen anyways without these 1000 intellectuals? If so, how much time would pass between these two theoretical revolutions? What kind of 'intellectuals' are these? Anarchist? Leninist? Is there any infighting between them? How would they further the socialist cause? How would they die? Would they become martyrs? Why or why not? It matters very much what the circumstances are.

Lardlad95
10th January 2004, 23:52
Originally posted by Ahura [email protected] 10 2004, 07:04 PM
Say you are given a choice. It does not matter what the circumstances are that bring about this choice; it doesn't matter. It is only the situation. The choice: The ten people closest to you will die, or 1000 intellectuals who would advance your precious faith you call communism you have never known and never would have known die.

So, what would you choose? :D
...I'd choose my family meembers over the intellectuals who advance communism..mainly because I"m not a communist

now if they were democratic socialist intellectuals I'd be in a bind

New Tolerance
10th January 2004, 23:57
Originally posted by Ahura [email protected] 10 2004, 07:04 PM
Say you are given a choice. It does not matter what the circumstances are that bring about this choice; it doesn't matter. It is only the situation. The choice: The ten people closest to you will die, or 1000 intellectuals who would advance your precious faith you call communism you have never known and never would have known die.

So, what would you choose? :D
It depends.

Surely in such situations we will have more information about the situation.

redstar2000
11th January 2004, 00:13
Suppose the ten people closest to me are all "communist intellectuals"?

If you want serious answers, why not start by asking serious questions?

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Penguin Chariot Archer from Hell
11th January 2004, 00:50
I would go with saving the 1000 intellectuals. Putting my person needs and wants before the revolution would be greedy. I would be as bad as the Imperialists themselves.

Al Creed
11th January 2004, 01:09
Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 08:13 PM
If you want serious answers, why not start by asking serious questions?


I second this motion

Exploited Class
11th January 2004, 03:25
In this episode, Tom has a dream where he's denied admittance to Heaven because he harassed Jerry all his life. But, Saint Peter says that he can still get a pass if he can get Jerry to sign a Certificate of Forgiveness within the next hour. He gets the signature, but a little too late. He falls into a boiling cauldron in Hell, and wakes up. Upon waking, he's so overjoyed with relief, he rushes over to Jerry's mouse hole, snatches Jerry up, and kisses him all over his face.

Rasta Sapian
11th January 2004, 23:55
hi mazda :)

your question touches on greed vs. sacrifice

In the case of a revolution alot of us would have to kill our mothers and fathers, friends and neibors, unfortunatly :(

It is idealism, that is placed before greed.

"This is the end, my only friend the end" Jim Morrison

A Pict
12th January 2004, 00:21
In the case of a revolution alot of us would have to kill our mothers and fathers, friends and neibors, unfortunatly

It is idealism, that is placed before greed.

If that is your idealism, then you are indeed a sick fuck.

Hiero
12th January 2004, 07:46
Ahura Mazda would just kill them all

Indysocialist
12th January 2004, 08:04
I think what they want to hear from the Marxists is:

"ARGH! ME LOVE STALIN AND KILL ALL OF DEM FOR BEING ALIVE!!!!! THEN WHEN DONE COMMIE DRAGON MONSTER BEAST EAT CORPSES AND BREATH FIRE!"

So that's my answer.

Hiero
12th January 2004, 10:53
Thats what i actually meant to say but i left out the I when i said
would just kill them all

YKTMX
12th January 2004, 17:42
It does not matter what the circumstances are that bring about this choice; it doesn't matter

Are you sure? I think it does.


The ten people closest to you will die, or 1000 intellectuals who would advance your precious faith you call communism you have never known and never would have known die.

Well, that's stupid. First of all, it's not intellectuals who advance the cause of Socialism, it's the people of the world, the masses, the workers, the lumpen.

If this is an attept to prove some cliched belief like "communists are so ruthless they'll eat their own grannies to make their cracy dreams come true" then it's a piss-poor attempt.

Nice try, idiot.

dannie
12th January 2004, 17:54
i will choose to pick my nose and let them all die!!!!!! because i am an evil communist!!!!!!

fear me
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The Feral Underclass
12th January 2004, 18:00
I would convince the gun man that he should track you down and use his bullets on you...what a bizarre question.

STI
12th January 2004, 19:53
It's simple, really. I wouldn't have the 1000 killed, but that's just because it's better that 10 people die than 1000. It has nothing to do with politics, just ethics.

Ahura Mazda
13th January 2004, 01:07
If this is an attept to prove some cliched belief like "communists are so ruthless they'll eat their own grannies to make their cracy dreams come true" then it's a piss-poor attempt.


Actually, it was an attempt to show you that a lot of people, regardless of the effects to the revolution, would choose themselves over the revolution.

Hiero
13th January 2004, 03:16
well it didnt work

Urban Rubble
13th January 2004, 04:39
Actually, it was an attempt to show you that a lot of people, regardless of the effects to the revolution, would choose themselves over the revolution.

I don't care if you meant to prove that communists will choose American Cheerios over English wheatabix, either way it was incredibly stupid, and pointless.

I'd choose the 10 people closest to me and then I'd masturbate over their corpses. That is typical commie behavior. Stalin did it, why shouldn't I ?