Question to any our LGBT comrades....

[RadioRaheem84]

Do you guys indentify at all to the LGBT community leaders that are pushing for marriage and equality rights in the United States?

Do you feel as though they represent the LGBT community well as a whole and effectively address all issues facing LGBT Americans?

After reading a lot of gay libertarionist writings I find the work fascinating and think that we have lost some really great and detailed activist, academic work since the current LGBT movement has been co-opted IMO. They were really on the cutting edge of addressing sexuality in a capitalist nation from a leftist perspective. Brilliant stuff that would be seem like gibberish to the current leaders of the movement today who seem to only want to engage in the politics of acceptability and desperately appeal to straight America with images of monogamous families, marriage and middle class business success.

There is lack of concern for economics issues affecting LGBT youth and the working class who face the bulk off hate crimes. Even the nice havens of West Hollywood, Chelsea and Castro have been gentrified so as to exclude by default any working class and LGBT youth. Affordable housing initiatives are bypassed, homeless shelters face cuts, free clinics shut down, and the rent keeps growing attracting a very affluent clientele.

What is your opinion of all this? Please forgive any ignorance I may have on this issue as I am new to this cause.

[Lucretia]

No and no.

[RadioRaheem84]

No and no.
Concise and to the point, but none the less, thank you. :)

Would you at least like to recommend me some writings on the matter while you're at it?

[The Feral Underclass]

I am someone who identifies as LGBT and no and no. Here is a shortish article I wrote on gay marriage in the UK (yet to be published), which has some cross over for the US.

[RadioRaheem84]

Thanks for sharing. I appreciate it.

What ever happened to this group?!

http://www.outhistory.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front

[The Feral Underclass]

Well, like all radical movements in the 60's and 70's they were eventually co-opted into liberal state agendas.

[Lucretia]

Concise and to the point, but none the less, thank you. :)

Would you at least like to recommend me some writings on the matter while you're at it?

Writings on what? I'd be happy to recommend you some good literature, but first I need to know what specifically you're trying to find out.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Do you guys indentify at all to the LGBT community leaders that are pushing for marriage and equality rights in the United States?
No, but I do support marriage equality and civil rights protections without being under any illusion that either can lead to liberation. Only a revolution can create the conditions for liberation.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

I do not identify with,nor personally care very much about "marriage equality".

A quote from a friend of mine..


Today, I think of all the queer and trans single people, as well as the queer and trans people who will never enter into the oppressive institution of marriage regardless of their relationship status or the legal status of the institution. It is not enough to say: but shouldn't people have the choice? As if there is not tremendous pressure exerted by heteronormative (and increasingly, homonormative) society to conform to the tyranny of coupledom and the biologically essentialist mandate to reproduce. Until the full panoply of civil, human and legal rights is completely severed from one's relationship status, there will be people who continue to be angered by the "marriage equality" movement and its pilfering of way too many human, economic and political resources.


And there is this...

http://queerkidssaynomarriage.wordpress.com/


Having said this though I do think that extending marriage equality and civil rights protections to LGBT people is a good thing in that it does reflect greater acceptance and understanding by society, if only within the context of the highly limited area of liberal identity politics.It is an important first step and can beused as a starting point for a real liberation movement.

An article I wrote


http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article18.php?id=1977

And a better article by a comrade.


http://www.socialistalternative.org/news/article18.php?id=2152

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

I do not identify with,nor personally care very much about "marriage equality".
Nor do I, as I have no interest in marriage (been there, done that, actually).


Having said this though I do think that extending marriage equality and civil rights protections to LGBT people is a good thing in that it does reflect greater acceptance and understanding by society, if only within the context of the highly limited area of liberal identity politics.It is an important first step and can beused as a starting point for a real liberation movement.
That's essentially my position, as well. Also, it's a direct assault on religious fundamentalists trying to control secular institutions.

[Sea]

I only support stuff like that insofar as it leads to stuff like this (http://www.revleft.com/vb/elderly-french-fascist-t180884/index.html).