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rylasasin
24th June 2013, 12:20
I found mention of this copypasta while looking at some youtube comments on a non-communism related video.

Obviously, these are a bunch of shit, but being a forever-laymen to communism myself I'd like to know what some actual communists think of any of these (besides the painfully obvious fact that none of them even mention the words "means of production" let alone the seizing of said means of production by the working class) and more importantly where exactly it came from and who wrote it?


1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a
demonstration of "moral strength."

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites.

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of
Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free
elections under supervision of the UN.

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed
to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN.

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is
rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own
independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be
taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers
compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo).

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13) Do away with loyalty oaths.

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office.

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US.

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for
Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get
control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or
organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments,
editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of
artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all
good sculpture from parks and buildings," substitute shapeless, awkward,
and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to
promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship"
and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography,
and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal,
natural, and healthy."

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social"
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools
on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and
state."

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old
fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation
between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish
aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of
American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big
picture": Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took
over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any
part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs,
mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation
of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social
agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no
one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a
means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy
divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence
of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children
to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate
aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest
groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic,
political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready
for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World
Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World
Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court
jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

Point Blank
25th June 2013, 14:02
Pure 1950s U.S. propaganda trying to portray Communists as violent anti-American, pro-Soviet agents who are poisoning national values and want to subtly destroy family, religion, culture, sexual morals, individual liberty to spread Communism (which seems to be some kind of horrible infectious disease). Oh yes, and colonial peoples are too primitive to rule themselves, in spite of having done so for centuries before the arrival of European conquerors. So much for the self-determination of the peoples.

Like any other conspiracist outlook of reality, it's completely bullshit (and needlessly to say, written by people who were not familiar with Communist theory and practice).
Disappointed it doesn't say Commies are aliens from outer space trying to conquer Earth, however.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
25th June 2013, 14:05
The humans must never know, comrade!

Take out the UN and peaceful coexistence crap, and you have a halfway decent cultural programme, albeit one that almost no communist party advocated in that period.

rylasasin
25th June 2013, 15:39
18) Gain control of all student newspapers.

Because people (let alone communists in the 1950's) give two shits about student newspapers :rolleyes:.

Red Nightmare
25th June 2013, 17:21
The 45 goals were from an anti-communist propaganda book called "The Naked Communist" so I wouldn't take them very seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Communist

Fourth Internationalist
25th June 2013, 18:23
From wikipedia:

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity, masturbation and easy divorce.

Am I the only one who thinks these people are helping our cause more than hurting it? :D

rylasasin
26th June 2013, 05:12
The 45 goals were from an anti-communist propaganda book called "The Naked Communist" so I wouldn't take them very seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Naked_Communist

Thanks for that! I was looking for where it came from...

And to think, there are actually some idiots who claim it came from the manifesto. :laugh:

Brutus
26th June 2013, 08:29
Thanks for that! I was looking for where it came from...

And to think, there are actually some idiots who claim it came from the manifesto. :laugh:
It didn't come from the manifesto?!
I've been living a lie!

rylasasin
26th June 2013, 12:09
What you didn't know? The writers of the Manifesto had magical psychic powers! That's how they could predict that panama was going to have a canal and that Red China and Soviet Russia were going to be a thing!

But seriously, if they really believe that this shit comes from the manifesto (which was written in 1848,) Let's just say the fear of communists taking over student newspapers should probably be the LEAST of their concerns.

Ceallach_the_Witch
26th June 2013, 21:46
Wikipedia on the author's views:

'Skousen disregarded all federal regulatory agencies and argued for the abolition of everything from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to the Environmental Protection Agency. He also wanted to repeal the minimum wage, eliminate unions, nullify anti-discrimination laws, sell off public lands and national parks, end the direct election of senators, eliminate the income tax and the estate tax, remove the walls separating church and state, and end the Federal Reserve System."

oh boy

Rugged Collectivist
27th June 2013, 04:19
Wasn't pornography and open expression of homosexuality suppressed in most "communist" countries?

Fourth Internationalist
27th June 2013, 04:38
Wasn't pornography and open expression of homosexuality suppressed in most "communist" countries?

Yep. That's one reason why those countries weren't and are not socialist. I'm surprised people like this author aren't in favor of Stalin. From what I know, he made it a crime with up to five years of hard labor even though Lenin had legalized homosexuality. Also, I think abortion was illegal too and much importance was put on the family. He has much more in common with conservatives than any communists do with him, even Marxists-Leninists. That's why many "National Bolsheviks" (pfft) look up to him too.

Kingfish
19th July 2013, 00:26
Wasn't pornography and open expression of homosexuality suppressed in most "communist" countries?

Although Im not entirely sure that is completely correct I think that was part of the authors angle: that homosexuality, promiscuity and pornography weaken the country and hence is a weapon being used by the USSR (who clearly understanding the 'threat' would suppress it domestically) against the USA.

Sea
22nd July 2013, 20:42
45 goals of communism
45 goals of communism
take one down, pass it around
44 goals of communism :lol:

Popular Front of Judea
22nd July 2013, 21:25
Oh and it gets better. Cleon Skousen, author of the 'Naked Communist' in turn was a major "intellectual" influence on non other than Glenn Beck:

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck’s life | Salon (http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/)

Brandon's Impotent Rage
22nd July 2013, 21:36
Oh and it gets better. Cleon Skousen, author of the 'Naked Communist' in turn was a major "intellectual" influence on non other than Glenn Beck:

Meet the man who changed Glenn Beck’s life | Salon (http://www.salon.com/2009/09/16/beck_skousen/)


Furthermore, Skousen is pretty much one of (if not the) architect of modern Christian Nationalism thanks to his book The Five Thousand Year Leap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_5,000_Year_Leap).

And yes, you can personally thank Glenn Beck for unleashing this old dinosaur on us, as it was his little cult that made this 'book' a bestseller after over 20 years.