What exactly is the difference between white nationalism and white supremacy?

[Professor Paradox]

Honestly, I see no difference between the two. The way I see it white nationalism is nothing more than a euphemism for white supremacy.

[Tim Cornelis]

White supremacists tend to want to rule over other races (e.g. apartheid), white nationalists may be seen as including white supremacists but white nationalists whom are not also supremacists may want to live separately but also support self-empowerment of other races on racial lines, though usually superficially.

[AnSyn Blackflag]

White Nationalism is the more political face of White Supremacy.
Granted it is common to see White Nationalist as Separatist who will form Solidarity with other races if the end result is separating the races effectively.

[Craig_J]

In theory, white supremacism is different to white nationalism as white nationalists simply seek an exclsuive white country as they beleive there are to many biological and cultural differences between say white people and black people for them to get along and live harmoniously. They criticse multicultralism as they believe it fails to recognise that different race groups have different cultures and ways of life which make a peaceful society impossible because of the conflict in values between different ethnic groups. However, white nationalists can get on well with black nationalists as they both share the same fundamental belief that they should seperate and keep away from each other. Keep "themselves to thesmselves" if you like.

But, on practice it is very, very difficult to have white nationalism without a degree of supremacy. Obviously if they think white people and black people ahve different cultural instincts caused by biology (which of course is not true at all) then their reason for wanting to seperate themselves is likely to be because they think the "white culture" is superior to "the black culture" and so most, if not all, white nationalists are white supremacists either conciously or subconciously.

[Geiseric]

I would argue that those two and "racism" are nearly indistinguishable.

[AnSyn Blackflag]

They are nearly indistinguishable but not completely. I acknowledge the difference but I wish that White Nationalist would realize that their mindset can only lead to racial tension and therefore needs to be struck down.

[GBOG]

White supremacists are also white nationalists but all white nationalists are not per se white supremacists (but coincidentally they almost always are). I do believe white nationalism can be at least two things. It can be an umbrella term for some of the racist ideologies out there but it can also be about the same as etno-pluralism, although you don't technically need to be white to be an etno-pluralist.

This can be entertaining to discuss but when it comes down to people who practice these things it's of less importance. It might help you understand them and predict conflicts in their organisations or who their potential alliances are but in the end of the day you still need to fight them using whatever tactics you find most successful.

[MarxSchmarx]

White nationalism presupposes white supremacy. The opposite, however, is not true.

One can believe in white supremacy without believing that white people should have their own plot of land.

By contrast, one cannot believe that white people having their own plot of land is in any sense desirable unless one believed in the superiority of white people - i.e., white supremacy. This superiority may be in terms of "desirability" - for example, a white nationalist holds that white neighbors are more desirable than non-white neighbors - and hence superior to the non-white alternative.

Make no mistake - it is one half dozen, six of the other.

[d3crypt]

I think that white nationalist and white supremacists are both just idiots. There is no practical difference.

[Lynx]

Perhaps the supremacists are more likely to advocate genocide. Other than that, no major differences.

[Red Nightmare]

Not much, white nationalists are people who believe in establishing all white societies to the exclusion of others while white supremacists are people who believe white people are better than all other races.

[adipocere]

Perhaps the supremacists are more likely to advocate genocide. Other than that, no major differences.

I'm not sure about that.

A supremacist requires someone to be inferior to them. Economically, American slave owners were supremacist and this served to justify the slavery. Genocide makes no sense when the purpose is for labor exploitation and power, however that could become an option with a race that has lost it's usefulness. Socially, the supremacist (consciously or subconsciously) requires the constant presence of the "inferior" race(s).

On the other hand a race nationalist would have motive to engage in violence or genocide - the goal being to purify the state/gene pool. Hutu power was an example of this regarding Rwanda. (And yes, that is an extremely simplistic reading of Rwanda.) The race nationalist views "inferior" races as a genuine threat to society.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

Does it matter in the long run? They're both racialist conservative nation-cult freaks.