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Delenda Carthago
20th June 2013, 21:27
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Ernst Thlmann, President of the Communist Party of Germany in the period 1924-1933 and leading figure of the international communist movement, whose murder was ordered personally by Hitler in August 1944 in the Buchenwald concentration camp, still worries the bourgeois class and its representatives, even in the form of a monument. We are referring to the memorial that was erected in Ernst Thlmann Park, in the heart of Prenzlauer Berg, a working class neighbourhood in East Berlin, on the occasion of 100 year anniversary of the birth of the German revolutionary in 1986. The monument was the work of the famous Soviet sculptor Lev Kerbel.



The Liberal Party (FDP) has taken up the baton of anti-communism in this period, a governmental partner of the Christian Democrats, which called a protest action against the monument and its symbolic blowing up. The reaction of the German Communist Party was immediate, which together with the Initiative Committee of residents for the conservation of the monument and other organizations gathered to denounce this anti-communist provocation. Members and friends of the KKE, while a representative of the party made a short greetings speech to the rally, and referred to the importance of lessons from the experience of the revolutionary movement being kept alive today. Despite the fact that the paltry number of liberal anti-communists were protected by numerous police forces, their action was cancelled.



The workers who defend the heroes of the revolutionary movement afterwards sang the Internationale in German and Greek, while they made it clear that they remain in a state of readiness. The efforts of the anti-communists will continue, as their passion in removing the names and symbols of the revolutionary movement from Berlin and elsewhere is combined with their activity which is directed to serve the opening of the way for capital and the capitalist interests, which have set their sights on building luxury apartments in the place where the park is.




http://inter.kke.gr/News/news2013/2013-06-19-telman

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
20th June 2013, 22:17
"The reaction of the German Communist Party was immediate"

LOL, there is no 'German Communist Party'. Talking like there is, not adressing the nuclear state of the left, is self-delusion and will not get us ahead; we have to face the fact that there are dozens of competing 'communist parties' in all western countries.

Sooner or later the Anti-Revisionist comrades will have to face up to the reality that the communist left is in large a big pile of competitive useless losers sitting in their livings rooms, among themselves, talking about the r-r-r-revolution. If our goal is the unification of the country, of the society, of the continent, behind the Communist Party, the existing 'communist' left has to show that it can first unite itself. Unite its forces and stand united behind one goal: overthrowing capitalism and smashing its defenses. If any wage dependent person agrees with that goal, they need to be given a member card and forced to use to use their own critical thinking abilities in the theoretical struggle between the united Communist Party's factions.

Tim Cornelis
20th June 2013, 22:58
"The reaction of the German Communist Party was immediate"

LOL, there is no 'German Communist Party'. Talking like there is, not adressing the nuclear state of the left, is self-delusion and will not get us ahead; we have to face the fact that there are dozens of competing 'communist parties' in all western countries.

Sooner or later the Anti-Revisionist comrades will have to face up to the reality that the communist left is in large a big pile of competitive useless losers sitting in their livings rooms, among themselves, talking about the r-r-r-revolution. If our goal is the unification of the country, of the society, of the continent, behind the Communist Party, the existing 'communist' left has to show that it can first unite itself. Unite its forces and stand united behind one goal: overthrowing capitalism and smashing its defenses. If any wage dependent person agrees with that goal, they need to be given a member card and forced to use to use their own critical thinking abilities in the theoretical struggle between the united Communist Party's factions.

What are you talking about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Communist_Party

Per Levy
20th June 2013, 23:03
Ernst Thlmann, President of the Communist Party of Germany in the period 1924-1933 and leading figure of the international communist movement, whose murder was ordered personally by Hitler in August 1944 in the Buchenwald concentration camp, still worries the bourgeois class and its representatives, even in the form of a monument.

the herofication of thlmann is quite a bit appalling, besides thlmann isnt worrying the bourgeoisie at all, the liberals, who made this "action" want to build new apartment building there and remove the monument because of it. sure anti-communism is a part of it, but they arnt worrying in the slightest.


The Liberal Party (FDP) has taken up the baton of anti-communism in this period,

the fdp, since its founding, never dropped the "baton of anti-communism"


a governmental partner of the Christian Democrats, which called a protest action against the monument and its symbolic blowing up.

to be fair, it was the JuLis the young liberals the youth group of the fdp that called for this action and the removal of the monument.


The reaction of the German Communist Party was immediate, which together with the Initiative Committee of residents for the conservation of the monument and other organizations gathered to denounce this anti-communist provocation. Members and friends of the KKE, while a representative of the party made a short greetings speech to the rally, and referred to the importance of lessons from the experience of the revolutionary movement being kept alive today. Despite the fact that the paltry number of liberal anti-communists were protected by numerous police forces, their action was cancelled.

well at best 20 young liberals, 100 dkp members and around 30 anti-fascists gathered there. it isnt that big of a deal and the monument is protected by law to not be destroyed. so i doubt it is in much danger.


The workers who defend the heroes of the revolutionary movement afterwards sang the Internationale in German and Greek, while they made it clear that they remain in a state of readiness. The efforts of the anti-communists will continue, as their passion in removing the names and symbols of the revolutionary movement from Berlin and elsewhere is combined with their activity which is directed to serve the opening of the way for capital and the capitalist interests, which have set their sights on building luxury apartments in the place where the park is.

that has allready happend for over 20 years now.

TheRedRose
20th June 2013, 23:29
What good is a statue when the workers have no rights? You should focus on important things like the rights of the workers rather than the existance of a monument.

Lokomotive293
21st June 2013, 07:37
What good is a statue when the workers have no rights? You should focus on important things like the rights of the workers rather than the existance of a monument.

If they want to destroy all memory that an alternative to capitalism is possible, and all memory of the Communist resistance against fascism, that is relevant, imo. Also, it's not just about the monument, there is an investor who would like to build new, expensive apartment buildings right there where Thlmann Park is at the moment. So, if they get their way, the entire park will be destroyed, not just the monument. The anti-communist campaign against the monument, in part, is a way of them trying to achieve that. It would be like killing two birds with one stone for them.


LOL, there is no 'German Communist Party'.

Yes, there is (http://news.dkp.de/)

KurtFF8
21st June 2013, 15:55
What good is a statue when the workers have no rights? You should focus on important things like the rights of the workers rather than the existance of a monument.

I don't understand these "either or" kinds of statements we find here so often. As if protesting the removal of this monument is somehow getting in the way of fighting for workers rights themselves. Is there any reason to believe that opposing this removal is taking away from the workers movement in any way?

Don't get me wrong, I think that to fetishize Thlmann today doesn't make much sense, especially since a lot of it is based on the Maetzig film, of which he went on to say: "It is a film which you can no longer watch today. It is terrible. When I saw it once again I had red ears and was ashamed" (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/kurt-maetzig-acclaimed-socialist-film-director-8298319.html)

But that doesn't mean we should be indifferent to the reasons that those trying to tear it down are making this effort.

Luís Henrique
28th June 2013, 16:01
If they want to destroy all memory that an alternative to capitalism is possible, and all memory of the Communist resistance against fascism, that is relevant, imo.

If the memory that an alternative to capitalism is possible is embodied in a monument to Ernst Thaelmann, then it looks like an alternative to capitalism is indeed impossible.

This is rather the kind of vandalism that capitalism encourages, with the systematic destruction of nature and history only to build more real estate opportunities, than an anticommunist attack.

They would probably destroy a statue of Bismarck, too, if they can build a shopping center in its place and make some profit.

Lus Henrique