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redfist.
11th June 2013, 14:45
Ever since coming to RevLeft I have been looking for a new tendency. Upon coming here I was informed that, unlike what I had previously believed, democratic socialists DO NOT advocate decentralized economic planning. However, I was told that some libertarian marxist movements, such as council communists, and syndicalist movements such as DeLeonists, do. I want to read more up on these tendencies than I already have. Does anyone have anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look, as far as literature/websites?

Thanks in advance!

Brutus
11th June 2013, 17:50
Marxist Internet archive is always good for Marxists, and it has some anarchists

Slavoj Zizek's Balls
11th June 2013, 18:01
Check out Peter Kropotkin, other Anarchists and council communists such as Pannekoek on marxists.org or spunk.org.

Geiseric
11th June 2013, 18:02
Trotsky invented decentralized planning and did a lot of the theoretical things which were bastardized. Syndicalism was a failure too, most of the leading IWW members ended up founding the CP USA, which was a good thing until the party went crazy.

redfist.
11th June 2013, 18:06
Any specific works from Kropotkin, Trotsky and Pannekoek? Which anarchists -- and which works by said anarchists -- should I be checking out?

The Idler
11th June 2013, 18:47
Bookchin Listen Marxist!
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2000s/2000/no-1152-august-2000/book-reviews

Geiseric
11th June 2013, 19:06
Any specific works from Kropotkin, Trotsky and Pannekoek? Which anarchists -- and which works by said anarchists -- should I be checking out?

Read the program of the left opposition in Russia dude. It completely goes over decentralized planning and how to apply it to a country as backwards as Russia.

V.Vendetta
11th June 2013, 19:42
Anarchism and libertarian variants of Marxism both advocate decentralized economic planning. The Anarchist FAQ is a great place to start; they have some very detailed ideas on how an anarchist-communist economy could function.

Google the Anarchist FAQ, click on "What Would an Anarchist Society Look Like?" and read section 1.4.

redfist.
11th June 2013, 21:01
Read the program of the left opposition in Russia dude. It completely goes over decentralized planning and how to apply it to a country as backwards as Russia.

I may be missing something horribly obvious, but I can't seem to find it. Would you mind providing a link?

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the thread, so far! :D

Slavoj Zizek's Balls
11th June 2013, 21:30
Kropotkin's book called 'The Conquest of Bread' is a good introductory work.

http://libcom.org/library/the-conquest-of-bread-peter-kropotkin

Courtesy of libcom.org

Geiseric
12th June 2013, 03:36
Hey just go to marxists.org and go to the trotsky section. Everything you need is there. The left oppositions program lays out the decentralized planning.

blake 3:17
12th June 2013, 05:11
I don't think there's an organized tendency that really promotes this as such, although I'm sure others will disagree... On reflecting on forms of socialism which have actually gone down in the past 100 years, whether "Communist" or social democratic, a key problem has been over centralization of economic planning.

I'd recommend Walden Bello's great book The Food Wars for some ideas of the problems of both authoritarian states and markets, and the need to politicize the peasantry as peasants.


Hey just go to marxists.org and go to the trotsky section. Everything you need is there. The left oppositions program lays out the decentralized planning.

Really? Where?

Q
12th June 2013, 07:52
Read the program of the left opposition in Russia dude. It completely goes over decentralized planning and how to apply it to a country as backwards as Russia.


Hey just go to marxists.org and go to the trotsky section. Everything you need is there. The left oppositions program lays out the decentralized planning.

Hmm, I can find no such title (https://www.google.nl/search?q=site%3Amarxists.org+program+of+the+nleft+ opposition&oq=site%3Amarxists.org+program+of+the+left+opposit ion&aqs=chrome.0.57j58.17315&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sclient=psy-ab&q=site:marxists.org+program+of+the+left+opposition +in+Russia&oq=site:marxists.org+program+of+the+left+oppositio n+in+Russia&gs_l=serp.3...29169.32446.0.32815.12.11.1.0.0.0.13 3.612.10j1.11.0...0.0...1c.1.17.psy-ab.k2cDpQ1nE_E&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47810305,d.d2k&fp=bf6d5cd83a20d1b5&biw=1366&bih=631).

Nor in the Trotsky section (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/index.htm).

Sure you have the title right?

Brutus
12th June 2013, 08:12
He may mean this (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1927/opposition/index.htm)