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Arlekino
10th June 2013, 22:01
What is your country national heroes?
I shall start from my as myself from Former Soviet Union Lithuania. I start from Russia
Lenin of course. Plenty Lenin's monuments, street names, learning at schools, often on TV, Newspapers.
Second person I should give Yuri Gagarin first cosmonaut, as nation we proud of him.
Third not sure seems to remember often spoke about Ballerina Galina Ulanova
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSTPPNgtTZqMBpLzzqjr7CqMQp5m07h NZAEHVwbvkDSBj_JJZa
About Lithuania I am not sure but it was more talking going on about composer Ciurlionis, he did not acheaved world wide but used told to us he was great composer,
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQPvznjzqMI_V_Rvs3Eodcins9VJHppu DC4kbvJty1chjseKi16
as well poet Salomeja Neris I used like her poetry.
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNm5OZyD8jRRUu3mgQMgHZ3sNHhId2E jN_kHSf2kTFG9vUyDazhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNm5OZyD8jRRUu3mgQMgHZ3sNHhId2E jN_kHSf2kTFG9vUyDazro
Please told your countries heroes.
Goblin
10th June 2013, 22:33
These are some people i consider to be national heroes.
http://centerarnews.com/clients/centerarnews/6-21-2011-10-35-47-PM-2437951.jpg
Fridtjof Nansen (1861-1930), norwegian explorer.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WLYOZYm28FQ/UbBqSyR0pFI/AAAAAAAAUI0/wnbA7kauF1o/s320/knut_hamsun.jpg
Knut Hamsun (1859-1952), norwegian author.
http://chartnorway.webs.com/450viskat730.jpg
Edvard Grieg (1843-1907), norwegian composer.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Edvard_Munch_1921.jpg
Edvard Munch (1863-1944), norwegian painter.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27774805/Henrik+Ibsen.jpg
Henrik Ibsen (1828-1906), norwegian poet and playwright.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Bj%C3%B8rnson_bldsa_BB0803_.jpg
Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson (1832-1910), norwegian poet and author.
Arlekino
10th June 2013, 22:37
Thanks for sharing I did watched few plays based on Ibsen writings he is great writer and I will give myself pleasure to listening Edvard Grieg.
tuwix
11th June 2013, 06:50
Poland.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin_by_Bisson%2C_1849.png/240px-Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_Chopin_by_Bisson%2C_1849.png
Fryderyk Chopin known more as Frédéric Chopin (1810-1849) - classic composer. Equivocally considered as Frenchman but he was born in Poland and considered himself as Pole.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Marie_Curie_c1920.png/200px-Marie_Curie_c1920.png
Maria Skłodowska-Curie more as Marie Curie (1867-1934). Two times Nobel prize winner. Equivocally considered as Frenchwoman but he was born in Poland and considered herself as Pole.
Rusty Shackleford
11th June 2013, 07:07
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Flying Purple People Eater
11th June 2013, 08:07
"my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world."
I don't know. Even if I cared about connecting people with glorious nation states, I don't think there are 'national heroes' I know of who are remembered here besides some British generals who declared martial law on natives.
Arlekino
11th June 2013, 19:10
Anybody from other countries?:) I try to guest from Iran is Omar Khayyám poet or correct me if I am wrong. I think Iranians proud of his poetry.
Nevsky
11th June 2013, 22:31
Italy:
http://annoyzview.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/marco-polo-in-mosaic-form-china.jpg
Marco Polo, an adventurer who brought many innovations to medieval Europe after his trip to China.
http://dantealighieriofpueblo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DanteBook.jpg
Dante Alighieri, greatest poet and genius of the italian language.
http://viztv.vizfact.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Leonardo-Da-Vinci.jpg
Leonardo da Vinci, polymath genius of italian Renaissance.
http://worldarts.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Michelangelo.jpg
Michelangelo, iconic artist.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aSUkE-mmqDM/TWMsG8ypPfI/AAAAAAAAAA0/SZollJSF-qU/s1600/Galileo-Galilei.jpg
Galileo Galilei, revolutionary scientist.
http://nembulvar.hu/site/images/smilies/garibaldi1.bmp
Giuseppe Garibaldi, founding hero of modern Italy.
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/55084081/Giuseppe+Verdi+Verdi_Giuseppe.jpg
Giuseppe Verdi, brilliant composer.
http://www.rai.it/dl/img/2013/05/1369302885147falcone_2013.jpg
Giovanni Falcone, hero and martyr of anti-mafia struggle.
Arlekino
11th June 2013, 22:43
Giuseppe Verdi, ah what are surprise I borrowed today from my local library opera Aida. Dante what are good poet. Absolutely good scientist and writers.
Nevsky
11th June 2013, 22:56
Good choice! Aida is a very memorable opera by Verdi, maybe one of his best :)
The Intransigent Faction
16th June 2013, 22:28
Tommy Douglas.
http://www.dcf.ca/images/tcdouglas_portrait.jpg
He's been repeatedly named the "Greatest Canadian". Even our national police force were such big fans that they tracked his every move!
Also, Canadian Donald Trump, a.k.a "Don" Cherry.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/indepth/doncherry/gfx/cherry_don_bio.jpg
Also the guy who supposedly invented the telephone and some drunk who used slave labour to build a railroad.
Man...good thing I'm an internationalist!
MarxArchist
16th June 2013, 22:36
My nationalist fervor would be focused on worship of John Brown.
bcbm
17th June 2013, 03:35
My nationalist fervor would be focused on worship of John Brown.
stole mine
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/johnbrown/tragicprelude.jpg
Rugged Collectivist
17th June 2013, 03:49
John Brown was mine too. I think it's sad, yet unsurprising, that John Brown is the only American I can think of off the top of my head who deserves to be called a hero.
bcbm
17th June 2013, 04:01
John Brown was mine too. I think it's sad, yet unsurprising, that John Brown is the only American I can think of off the top of my head who deserves to be called a hero.
nah just from anti-slavery and civil rights struggles there are many
Rugged Collectivist
17th June 2013, 07:30
nah just from anti-slavery and civil rights struggles there are many
Yeah, but I can't think of them. I need to read more.
Os Cangaceiros
17th June 2013, 07:40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Melville
bcbm
17th June 2013, 09:40
Yeah, but I can't think of them. I need to read more.
surely you have heard of
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Bio-now/Hero%20Images/02-2013/rosa-parks-hero.jpg
rosa parks
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/K/Martin-Luther-King-Jr-9365086-2-402.jpg
dr martin luther king jr
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Malcolm%20X/malcolm-x-thumb.jpg
malcolm x
Jimmie Higgins
17th June 2013, 10:01
All my personal heroes from the U.S. would probably hate to be called a National hero. As for people who really seemed to capture and give voice to maybe a more specifically US-centered struggle/experience, Malcolm X would be the top of my list - though again he would explicitly not wanted to have been considered a US national hero. Goldman, Debs and some of the prominent Wobblies would also be on that list. John Brown needs an epic movie made about him (probably starring Daniel Day Lewis) - but done well, not all cheesy and full of liberal/moral equivocations.
But really I like these induviduals in a political way, they just happen to have been struggling in the US so I either know more about them and their history or they were dealing with conditions which may have been more specific to things in the US (like anti-black racism of the US variety).
My main identification with any sort of larger "American-ness" generally just comes through cultural things. I like cutures from all sorts of places, but there are some pop-culture things that are more specifically based out of US tradditions and locations that I like. I'd include Mark Twain and Steinbeck in that, urban-blues/early rock/r&b artists like Bo Diddly or Little Richard; underground/low-budget regional filmmakers like Romero (Pittsburg) and John Waters (Baltimore). All these folks have international appeal and reach but they all also captured local and regional things and experiences.
Rugged Collectivist
17th June 2013, 18:32
surely you have heard of
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Bio-now/Hero%20Images/02-2013/rosa-parks-hero.jpg
rosa parks
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/K/Martin-Luther-King-Jr-9365086-2-402.jpg
dr martin luther king jr
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Malcolm%20X/malcolm-x-thumb.jpg
malcolm x
Of course! but those three go without saying.
bcbm
21st June 2013, 02:43
http://schoolworkhelper.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Theodore_Kaczynski.jpg
Os Cangaceiros
21st June 2013, 06:15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp_c
Os Cangaceiros
21st June 2013, 06:43
also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary
I'd always thought that he was just some kind of druggie hippie bum (mostly because of the "tune in turn on drop out" quote), but I've read more about him and he was actually a pretty cool guy, who took a lot of shit from the authorities during his life
Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
23rd June 2013, 04:06
surely you have heard of
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Bio-now/Hero%20Images/02-2013/rosa-parks-hero.jpg
rosa parks
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/K/Martin-Luther-King-Jr-9365086-2-402.jpg
dr martin luther king jr
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Galleries/Malcolm%20X/malcolm-x-thumb.jpg
malcolm x
Two of those are a bunch of lame bourgeois "progressives". One of them was pretty decent. Mah boy Huey here was the bomb:
http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/images/jtr10/07-01-04-seale%20and%20newton.jpg
MarxSchmarx
23rd June 2013, 06:14
OP:
I am not a Lithuanian, but I am surprised Gediminas was not on your list.
But as somebody who harbors an antipathy towards Christianity and Teutonic imperialism, he is a hero.
As to my own country, I know it is cliched but these are the people I draw inspiration from.
My hero is the grandfather who was shot while on strike in the mine he worked his whole life. My hero is the peasant woman who toiled all her life and raised the next generation to resist the system with her quiet strength. And my hero is the promising student who died in prison while being jailed for his efforts opposing imperialist wars.
"So what?" you say: "every country has such people". And that is the point.
People like this, who make my own problems pale by comparison, inspire me to stay in the struggle. They have names no one remembers, but they stood up for us all.
Goblin
24th June 2013, 01:47
This thread is pretty fun:p Here's some more norwegians for ya:
http://tradisjonogmodernitet.wikispaces.com/file/view/Sigrid%2520Undset,%2520portrett,%2520ung.jpg/211677086/Sigrid%2520Undset,%2520portrett,%2520ung.jpg
Sigrid Undset (1882-1949), author.
http://www.kirsten-flagstad.no/portals/77/Om%20museet/KFM-00677.jpg
Kirsten Flagstad (1895-1962), opera singer.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e2/Max_Manus_ukpd.jpg
Max Manus (1914-1996), resistance fighter.
http://cultured.com/images/image_files/82/2088_o_theodor_kittelsen.jpg
Theodor Kittelsen (1857-1914), painter.
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/78/13478-004-5C90EAFD.jpg
Roald Amundsen(1872-1928), explorer.
http://www.aasentunet.no/prod_images/doc_1220.jpg
Henrik Wergeland (1808-1845), poet.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Adolph_Tidemand_Selvportrett.jpg/220px-Adolph_Tidemand_Selvportrett.jpg
Adolph Tidemand (1814-1876), painter.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hThhQVwXJk8/TWK_2N0PthI/AAAAAAAAA6g/smEdh6M2hpg/s1600/Petter-Dass.jpg
Petter Dass (1647-1707), poet.
bcbm
24th June 2013, 04:35
Two of those are a bunch of lame bourgeois "progressives". One of them was pretty decent.
i assume the 'one' is malcolm. rosa parks did more with her life than you ever will. mlk jr was a socialist and was organizing working people when he was murdered
Os Cangaceiros
24th June 2013, 06:15
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Williams
Ismail
17th August 2013, 01:58
John Brown was mine too. I think it's sad, yet unsurprising, that John Brown is the only American I can think of off the top of my head who deserves to be called a hero.Many of the Founding Fathers can be positively appraised. For example the Great Soviet Encyclopedia gives the following summaries:
From 1769 to 1774 he was a deputy to the Virginia legislature. He helped organize a revolutionary group in Virginia—the Committee of Correspondence, which was modeled after similar committees in other colonies. In 1775, Jefferson was elected a deputy to the Continental Congress, which had decided on the separation of the North American colonies from Great Britain. He was the author of the Declaration of Independence, which Congress accepted during the War for Independence in North America (1775-83). Jefferson intended to extend the rights enunciated in the declaration to Negro slaves, but the slaveowners were opposed. He played an active role in the democratization of the social structure of Virginia.As a member of the Virginia House of Delegates between 1776 and 1779, Jefferson took part in a review of extant legislation. The feudal order in landownership—primogeniture, semifeudal rent, and prohibition of the sale of lots of land— was abolished. He was the author of the Statute on Religious Freedom, and he worked hard for its adoption, influencing the constitutions of other states and the constitutional provision for the separation of church and state in the USA. In 1784, Jefferson urged Congress to nationalize the lands of the West and prohibit slavery in all newly admitted states. However, the latter suggestion was accepted only in connection with the Northwest Territory. From 1779 to 1781, Jefferson was governor of Virginia, from 1785 to 1789, US minister in Paris, and from 1790 to 1793, secretary of state in G. Washington’s first administration. He welcomed the Great French Revolution, but he considered it expedient for the USA not to participate in the military struggles in Europe.
Jefferson was an outstanding representative of the left revolutionary wing of the 18th-century Enlightenment. Expressing the interests of farmers and the petite bourgeoisie, he criticized the American Revolution for its incompleteness and pointed to the necessity for a democratic solution of the agrarian question, the abolition of slavery, and the granting of political rights to all the people. He considered the Constitution of 1787 insufficiently democratic and argued that it required a supplementary bill of rights. Jefferson carried on a long polemic with the leader of the Federalist Party, A. Hamilton, who represented the interests of the powerful bourgeoisie of the Northeast. Jefferson considered private property a natural right of man and saw in it the basis of the harmony of interests of society, influenced by the Physiocrats, he exaggerated the role of agriculture, considering it the main source of social wealth. Later, he recognized the necessity for the development of American industry and supported a strict equilibrium between agriculture, industry, trade, and banks. He advocated a democratic solution of the agrarian question.
Jefferson’s disagreement with the policies of Washington’s administration forced him to retire from office. He led the opposition Democratic-Republicans, and his democratic slogans were supported by the people. In 1796, Jefferson was elected vice-president, and from 1801 to 1809 he was president of the USA. As president, Jefferson pursued a moderate policy of compromise among the various strata of society. During his presidency many reactionary laws that had been adopted during the presidency of his predecessor, J. Adams, were abolished, and the army, navy, and government bureaucracy were reduced. In foreign affairs, Jefferson’s presidency was distinguished by the acquisition of French Louisiana in 1803 and the establishment of diplomatic relations with Russia in 1808-09.
The son of a craftsman of modest means, Franklin went to work at the age of ten, at first in his father’s shop and later in his older brother’s printing shop. In 1723 he moved to Philadelphia; the following year he went to London and remained there until 1726. In 1727 he founded his own printing business in Philadelphia. Devoting his free time to self-education, Franklin became one of the most educated men of his day. He published The Pennsylvania Gazette from 1729 to 1748 and Poor Richard’s Almanac from 1732 to 1758. In Philadelphia, Franklin founded the first circulating library in the English colonies (1731), the American Philosophical Society (1743), and the Academy for the Education of Youth (1751), which was the forerunner of the University of Pennsylvania. From 1737 to 1753 he was deputy postmaster of Pennsylvania, and from 1753 to 1774 deputy postmaster general for all the North American colonies. Franklin was one of the initiators of the first congress of colonial representatives (the Albany Congress, 1754), to which he proposed a plan for uniting the colonies. From 1757 to 1775 (except for 1762–65), he represented the colonies in London.
Shortly after the American Revolution began, Franklin returned to his homeland. He was chosen a member of the Second Continental Congress and helped draft the Declaration of Independence. From 1776 to 1785, Franklin was an envoy in Paris, where he vigorously promoted the international interests of the USA. He was instrumental in concluding a treaty of alliance with France (1778) and the Peace Treaty of Versailles (1783), whereby Great Britain recognized the independence of the USA. In 1785, Franklin was chosen president of the executive council of Pennsylvania, and in 1787 he was a member of the Constitutional Convention that drew up the US Constitution.
The foundation of Franklin’s political views was the belief in man’s natural and inalienable right to life, liberty, and property. Believing that the consent of the people is the foundation of the state, he sanctioned the people’s right to rise up when the government violates this understanding. Franklin originally favored the independence of the colonies within the British Empire, but after the revolutionary movement developed, he favored the separation of the colonies from the mother country and the declaration of political independence. At the time of writing the Constitution, Franklin upheld the principle of the federation of all the states while retaining a broad range of states’ rights; he opposed an expanded executive power and favored general suffrage not restricted by property qualification. Franklin was strongly opposed to slavery.
In the area of political economy, Franklin was opposed to the prevailing mercantilist theory and advocated the economic view of the Physiocrats. A half century before A. Smith, he formulated the labor theory of value, becoming, in the words of K. Marx, “one of the first economists who . . . discerned the true nature of value” (K. Marx and F. Engels, Soch., 2nd ed., vol. 23, p. 60, footnote).
In his philosophical views, Franklin was a deist. He contrasted the idea of natural religion, in which the role of god is reduced to the act of creating the world, to orthodox religious dogma; he regarded motion as an immanent property of matter. Franklin’s ethical views were based on the idea of the natural, utilitarian character of morality, which should be free from religious sanction.
As a scientist, Franklin’s attention was drawn to the most diverse phenomena of nature. He collected extensive data on gale winds (northeasters) and proposed a theory to explain their origin. Franklin was one of the first to study the velocity, dimensions, and course of the Gulf Stream, which he named. However, Franklin’s major field of study was physics. His letters to P. Collinson, a fellow of the Royal Society of London, who published them at his own expense, were of great help in disseminating throughout Europe Franklin’s ideas about various aspects of physics. Franklin measured the heat conductivity of various materials, studied the phenomena of liquid cooling during evaporation, and researched the movement of sound in water and air.
Franklin’s work with electricity from 1747 to 1753 was his most important scientific achievement. Franklin explained the principle of operation of the Leyden jar, establishing the decisive role played by the dielectric that separates the conducting plates. He introduced the accepted designation of electrically charged states as + (positive) and – (negative) and developed the unitary theory (“single fluid” theory) of electrical phenomena, which is based on an assumption of the existence of a single electrical substance, a deficiency or surplus of which determines the charge sign of a body. Franklin performed a great service in establishing the identity of atmospheric and static electricity and proving the electrical nature of lightning. After discovering that metal points connected with the ground reduce the electrical charges from charged bodies even without contact with them, Franklin proposed an efficient method of protection from lightning—the lightning rod.
Franklin was also responsible for a number of other technical inventions, including lamps for street lights, the economical Franklin stove, a special musical instrument, Franklin’s electrical machine, which revolves under the influence of electrostatic forces, and the use of an electric spark to ignite powder.
Franklin’s scientific achievements brought him widespread international recognition. He was elected an honorary member of a number of foreign academies and societies, including the Russian Academy of Sciences (1789).
In 1774, Paine left England for North America, carrying a letter of introduction from B. Franklin. He soon emerged in the forefront of the proponents of independence for the British colonies. In the pamphlet Common Sense (1776), Paine, taking as his point of departure rationalist theories of natural law and the social contract, advocated the idea of the sovereignty of the people and the right to revolution. He demonstrated that it was necessary for the North American colonies to break away from Great Britain and form an independent republic. The ideas expressed in Common Sense were reflected in the Declaration of Independence (1776). Paine, like Jefferson, favored the abolition of slavery.
During the War of Independence in North America (1775–83), Paine wrote a series of 13 pamphlets under the title The American Crisis (1776–83). From 1777 to 1779 he was secretary of the congressional Committee for Foreign Affairs, and in 1781 he took part in the Paris negotiations with the French government concerning aid for the North American colonies.
Paine was an ardent supporter of the French Revolution, which broke out while he was in Great Britain. In the treatise The Rights of Man (1791–92) he developed the ideas of popular sovereignty and republicanism and defended the revolutionary principles of the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen. Paine’s book was banned in Great Britain, and he was forced to emigrate to France, where he was elected a member of the Convention. However, he broke with the Jacobins on the question of the execution of Louis XVI, and in late 1793 he was put in prison, where he spent about a year. As a result of his experience in France, his social views developed, particularly his criticism of bourgeois property relations from a petit bourgeois standpoint. In Agrarian Justice (1797), he condemned the system of property distribution and speculated that labor is the source of capitalist profit. He developed a Utopian plan for state support of the poor through taxation of the propertied classes and through the nationalization of land under a redemption system.
Paine was among those who introduced atheistic traditions into America. In the Age of Reason (1794) the force of reason is decisively pitted against religious delusions. As a philosopher, Paine is perhaps best described as an inconsistent metaphysical materialist.
In 1802, Paine returned to the USA, where, persecuted by reactionary political and religious circles, he died in poverty. The views of Paine—the most consistent spokesman of the radical democratic tendency in the American sociopolitical movement of the late 18th century—directly influenced the shaping of the ideology of the Chartist movement in Great Britain.
Art Vandelay
17th August 2013, 13:23
Don Cherry gets my vote. The man went senile a long time ago, dresses like he's lost his mind, and purposely mispronounces french Canadian hockey players names.
Regicollis
17th August 2013, 13:51
A few from Denmark
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Kierkegaard.jpg/220px-Kierkegaard.jpg
Søren Aabye Kierkegaard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard), philosopher
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Carl_Nielsen.jpg
Carl Nielsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Nielsen), composer
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Henningsen_poul.jpg
Poul Henningsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poul Henningsen), critic, architect and fellow traveller
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted_daguerreotype.jpg/220px-Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted_daguerreotype.jpg
Hans Christian Ørsted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted), scientist, discoverer of electromagnetism
Goblin
17th August 2013, 14:13
A few from Denmark
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/89/Kierkegaard.jpg/220px-Kierkegaard.jpg
Søren Aabye Kierkegaard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard), philosopher
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Carl_Nielsen.jpg
Carl Nielsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Nielsen), composer
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Henningsen_poul.jpg
Poul Henningsen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poul Henningsen), critic, architect and fellow traveller
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted_daguerreotype.jpg/220px-Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted_daguerreotype.jpg
Hans Christian Ørsted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted), scientist, discoverer of electromagnetism
What about Georg Brandes?;)1
Chris
17th August 2013, 14:28
Norway:
http://www.allverdenshistorie.no/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Marcus_Thrane.jpg
Marcus Thrane: Founder of the first trade union in Norway, arrested for it and ended up moving to the USA.
http://gfx.nrk.no/7GTenuiMzHclw4JZC7ADbwMUQXktIQ2HE7YbgXMnJqzg.jpg
Asbjørn Sunde: Leader of the 'Osvald Group', a communist resistance organisation during WW2 which commited the largest amounts of sabotage and assassination activities of Norwegian resistance groups. Fought in the Spanish Civil War.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Nordahl_Grieg.jpg/220px-Nordahl_Grieg.jpg
Nordahl Grieg: Communist poet and author, died aboard a British bomber during a nightly raid over Berlin. Fought in the Spanish Civil War. Probably the only stalinist in Norway to have schools named after him, and several erected statues.
Regicollis
17th August 2013, 23:30
What about Georg Brandes?;)1
How could I forget ;)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/P_S_Kr%C3%B8yer_1900_-_Georg_Brandes_-_Skitse_til_maleri.jpg/220px-P_S_Kr%C3%B8yer_1900_-_Georg_Brandes_-_Skitse_til_maleri.jpg
Georg Brandes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_Brandes), cultural radicalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Radicalism) critic
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Jacob_Jacobsen_Dampe.jpg/220px-Jacob_Jacobsen_Dampe.jpg
J.J. Dampe, political prisoner and opponent of absolute monarchy
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Struensee_Juel.jpg/220px-Struensee_Juel.jpg
Johann Friedrich Struensee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struensee), enlightenment reformer who had an affair with the queen and ruled Denmark in place of the mad king Christian VII until he was overthrown and executed.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/Thit_Jensen.jpg/180px-Thit_Jensen.jpg
Thit Jensen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thit_Jensen), author and feminist
tachosomoza
18th August 2013, 00:05
My Personal American Heroes
Eugene V. Debs
http://debsfoundation.org/images/personalhistory1.jpg
Paul Robeson
http://classicmoviechat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/paul-robeson.jpeg
William Lloyd Garrison
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/G/William-Lloyd-Garrison-9307251-1-402.jpg
Bernie Sanders
http://flaglerlive.com/wp-content/uploads/bernie-sanders.jpg
Angela Davis
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/D/Angela-Davis-9267589-1-402.jpg
John Brown
http://www-tc.pbs.org/weta/thewest/people/images/brown1.jpg
Saul Alinsky
http://consortiumnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/saulalinsky.jpg
Brandon's Impotent Rage
18th August 2013, 17:33
Big Bill Haywood
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmei6nBBkL1qanahko1_500.jpg
Utah Phillips
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/26591925/Utah+Phillips+utah+against+war.jpg
Mother Jones
http://www.motherjonesmuseum.org/115MotherSpeaks.jpg
zoot_allures
19th August 2013, 00:30
I take it you're asking for our personal heroes, as opposed to those people who are generally considered national heroes.
I suppose my biggest hero from the UK is Michael Dummett. Not for his political views, though his political views sure ain't the worst out there, but for his fuckin' badass semantic anti-realism.
Thirsty Crow
19th August 2013, 00:39
http://annoyzview.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/marco-polo-in-mosaic-form-china.jpg
Marco Polo, an adventurer who brought many innovations to medieval Europe after his trip to China.
You would have a nice chit chat with Croatian nationalists and patriots about Marco :D
Brandon's Impotent Rage
20th August 2013, 20:44
Newton Knight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Newton-knight.jpg
Farmer, soldier, and leader of a pro-union/anti-slavery group of Confederate Army deserters that caused one hell of a headache for CSA forces in Mississippi. Also married an escaped slave.
A true American hero.
Arlekino
20th August 2013, 20:54
What about Georg Brandes?;)1
How about Hans Christian Andersen, ah I used read his stories when I was child even few made me cried.
tachosomoza
20th August 2013, 21:19
Newton Knight
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Newton-knight.jpg
Farmer, soldier, and leader of a pro-union/anti-slavery group of Confederate Army deserters that caused one hell of a headache for CSA forces in Mississippi. Also married an escaped slave.
A true American hero.
Never heard of this guy before, but his story is definitely cool.
Brandon's Impotent Rage
22nd August 2013, 02:49
Samuel Fielden
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Samuel_Fielden_portrait_2.jpg
British immigrant who became the most famous member of the Chicago Eight, a group of anarchists who were charged with inciting the Haymarket Square riot.
The reason he's the most famous? Because he was the last speaker before the bomb went off (he was stepping down from the podium in order to calm the situation so as to avoid a confrontation with the cops). He's also famous for being the guy shouting in this famous illustration of the event (note that, again, he was NOT speaking when the bomb was thrown).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/HaymarketRiot-Harpers.jpg
Sam_b
22nd August 2013, 02:58
http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Goldenjubilee/01/58/73/90/1587390_w2.jpg
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sites/default/files/2013/3/20570235.JPG?1363835405
http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.2360820.1339973150!/image/2820427539.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/2820427539.jpg
Obviously
RedBen
22nd August 2013, 04:04
This thread is pretty fun
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hThhQVwXJk8/TWK_2N0PthI/AAAAAAAAA6g/smEdh6M2hpg/s1600/Petter-Dass.jpg
Petter Dass (1647-1707), poet.
has an ice cream sandwich:lol:
glad to see bernie sanders, and many others i was hoping to add already spoken up for. i would add abe lincoln. he deserved that letter from marx.
PC LOAD LETTER
22nd August 2013, 08:00
The entire thread goes by and nobody mentions this guy
http://i.imgur.com/P6k9pS8.jpg
Sam_b
22nd August 2013, 20:17
The entire thread goes by and nobody mentions this guy
Last time I checked, I wasn't American. Neither are half the users on this thread.
PC LOAD LETTER
22nd August 2013, 20:22
Last time I checked, I wasn't American. Neither are half the users on this thread.
That was obviously directed at the American users in the thread. I can't really believe I'm acknowledging that response, but, oh well, sometimes it's difficult to not feed the trolls.
tachosomoza
22nd August 2013, 20:22
has an ice cream sandwich:lol:
glad to see bernie sanders, and many others i was hoping to add already spoken up for. i would add abe lincoln. he deserved that letter from marx.
"I will say that I am not... in favor of bringing about the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not in favor of making voters of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."
“Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a god, great enough to make and maintain this universe, shall there continue to be knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagogue-ism as this?”
Fuck Lincoln.
RedBen
22nd August 2013, 20:40
"I will say that I am not... in favor of bringing about the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not in favor of making voters of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man."
“Negro equality! Fudge! How long, in the government of a god, great enough to make and maintain this universe, shall there continue to be knaves to vend, and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagogue-ism as this?”
Fuck Lincoln.
he still did something. something is not perfect but much better than nothing. i am not a marxist-lincolnist in any case
Sam_b
22nd August 2013, 20:41
That was obviously directed at the American users in the thread
'Nobody' in this thread would presumably include everybody within it.
tachosomoza
22nd August 2013, 20:42
Your heroes of that time should be Nat Turner and John Brown and John Fremont and Harriet Beecher Stowe and Frederick Douglass and William Lloyd Garrett, not a racist who would have kept slavery if it was feasible and only signed the Emancipation Proclamation to cripple the economy of the South, not out of any anti-slavery sentiment.
RedBen
23rd August 2013, 02:37
Your heroes of that time should be Nat Turner and John Brown and John Fremont and Harriet Beecher Stowe and Frederick Douglass and William Lloyd Garrett, not a racist who would have kept slavery if it was feasible and only signed the Emancipation Proclamation to cripple the economy of the South, not out of any anti-slavery sentiment.
i made the mistake of not reading incredibly closely as i could have. i am surprised frederick douglas wasn't on here, as i've quoted him in another thread. don't tell me who my heroes should be. i'm glad your education may have been of higher caliber than mine. in american text books, there are no bad americans.
La Guaneña
24th August 2013, 03:52
National heroes (Brasil):
Luiz Carlos Prestes and Olga Benario. He was an army capitain who started a rebellion in 1924 that ended up in an undefeated 25 thousand km march through Brasil. He later joined the PCB and the Comintern, where he met Olga, a German communist. They ended up becoming companions and she was arrested pregnant after a failed uprising in 1935, delivered to the Gestapo by the brasilian government. She had her baby in prision and died later in a gas chamber. There is a pretty good book and movie about her, both called "Olga".
Prestes lived old enough to spend nearly 30 years in prison, exile or a clandestine life and died a communist and a patriot in 1990.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fAEXtI9enhU/TpiHBIsi0tI/AAAAAAAAABg/psyo_xAJcmE/s320/olga_1.jpg
http://www.historiabrasileira.com/files/2010/02/Lu%C3%ADs-Carlos-Prestes.jpg
Brigadier Rui Moreira Lima was a WWII pilot who fought in Italy along with the Expeditionary Force. After his fight against fascism, he came back to Brasil as one of the leaders of the progressive movement in the armed forces, being persecuted during the military regime that started in 64. After the end of the regime, he collaborated to the efforts to take torturers to justice. Dude died last week, rip
http://www.estadao.com.br/fotos/rui_moreira_lima_marcos_de_paula_ae_16082012_288.j pg
Antônio Conselheiro was a religious leader that was in front of the first peasant rebellion after the establishment of the Republic. After years of droughts and hardships they founded the Arrial de Canudos, that associated popular traditions and superstitions with Catholicism. They were seen as reactionary monarchists, and four expeditions were needed to obliterate the poor town that humiliated the new armed forces and their cannons using improvised weapons and old-school guerilla shit.
http://www.onordeste.com/administrador/personalidades/imagemPersonalidade/2b4f9d0686714fdc8b5726a1b5df6b5c103.jpg
La Guaneña
24th August 2013, 03:53
Also fucking Zumbi dos Palmares, rebel slave leader that also founded a colony in the jungle and fought off the cowardly imperial army.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cvoRpmcVojA/UKhJ5aaEF0I/AAAAAAAACiI/9leHhQB9K_M/s640/ZUMBI.jpg
Db2_TWq7nfs
This one comes with a bonus song.
Zealot
28th August 2013, 13:56
A personal hero of mine would be Titokowaru; a New Zealand native who led possibly one of the most successful campaigns against British colonialism ever but no verifiable photographs of him exist. A methodist preacher and pacifist turned rebel, his "army of savages" was continually outnumbered by colonial forces and militia volunteers. He used guerrilla tactics to reconquer large areas of stolen land and independently pioneered a system of trench warfare that made his army almost invincible, prompting a military crisis and the desertion of many British troops and volunteers. So what happened? His followers ultimately abandoned him during a battle for his reportedly having an affair with the wife of another chief; prevailing superstitions of the time viewed this as bad luck and tantamount to defeat. Thus, the British take no credit at all for his downfall.
Of course, he's not a national hero since the British preferred that everyone forgot about him but his story has been revived in recent times by historians.
Zealot
28th August 2013, 14:00
Also, shout outs to John Brown that guy was mad cool.
tachosomoza
29th August 2013, 04:05
http://wigangreensocialists.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/gwquote.jpg
None of the Brits here mentioned Winstanley yet?
Goblin
31st August 2013, 15:36
has an ice cream sandwich:lol:
glad to see bernie sanders, and many others i was hoping to add already spoken up for. i would add abe lincoln. he deserved that letter from marx.
lol, It`s actually a Bible:tongue_smilie:
Goblin
31st August 2013, 15:42
http://mittsnitt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/rudolf-nilsen.jpg
Rudolf Nilsen (1901-1929), norwegian poet and communist
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