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GuyinCognito
7th June 2013, 23:48
1) you need to create real propaganda. Most of the early works of propaganda where artistic masterpieces that expressed a message of heroes and villans in as few words as possible so that people could understand the idea behind the work.

2) go into minority neighborhoods no matter you might be afriad of "the wrong side of the tracks" hand out leaflets or zines showing how the current system has always been against them as well as pointing out the benifits that would incur to all people including them if that system was replaced

3) You gotta organize. A regional political party isn't one guy. You also have to recruit.

4) create a seperate group that is even more radicallized then yours. That should shift the discussion and made sane leftist ideas seem moderate to the masses.

5) Temporary alliances between other groups are a must. It makes you look pragmatic and also furthers your cause. You can later drop those groups ASAP if you want or you can drag them along until another issue comes up where you have common ground.

6) You must also create separate groups that don't officially identify themselves with you. They should be used exclusively to spread rumors/embellished trust/lies via social media, email forwarding, blogs, letters sent to neighborhoods where the target lives about their personal life. The propaganda should be crude taking no issue in making up claims quoting the person as doing or saying racist, sexist, and homophobic things. As well as accusing them of various moral crimes that the local citizens would find disagreeable such as rumors of pedophilia and /or spousal abuse.

7) only support unions as much as they support you and your group. (see 5) In the USA most still functioning good unions have their backs against the wall state after state supporting "right to work". Yet these unions have been stripped of most power by law and they are politically pathetic. Most now support the "democrats" and that is not tolerable. Since that party is anything but a right of center party with most members in the senate being in the millionaires club.

8) There are some unions that are even worse then the current emasculated bunch. These are the Police and corrections unions. Whenever discussing or writing about these unions never compliment them. Try to include that these overpaid thugs cause more violence against people then any other group. That the purpose they are paid 30+ dollars an hour is to send the people's sons and daughters to jail.

9) when there is a vote for a primary or an election. Try to get as many people as possible to elect the worst democrat. The one that is incompetent in every way and sounds like a republican with their economic and moral policies. Hopefully they will win and people will finally come to realize that their needs to be a true and viable left wing party.

In politics, the means justify the ends.

Skyhilist
8th June 2013, 01:21
4) create a seperate group that is even more radicallized then yours. That should shift the discussion and made sane leftist ideas seem moderate to the masses.

What leftist groups exactly are more radicalized than communists?

Crabbensmasher
8th June 2013, 02:04
What leftist groups exactly are more radicalized than communists?

Super Communists. That's what.

Skyhilist
8th June 2013, 03:46
Super Communists. That's what.

In the sky! It's a sickle... it's a hammer... it's super commie!

GuyinCognito
8th June 2013, 07:47
It doesn't matter what it's called. Political tactics are political tactics. When george bush left office most people thought that the republican party was dead. What happened next was the tea party which was used extensively as a radical organization to deny they where part of the republican party and where independent, to pack town halls and every other political venue to shout down any oppositions, and to basically push for a further right nation.

To change the mindset and discussion in America you need to change the overtone window. By having groups who agitate that is to the furthest left possible is good since Americans in general love the "moderate". The person who is pragmatic reassures most of America. So leftists with views as extreme and organized as the teaparty is a good way to influence and change people's minds

#FF0000
8th June 2013, 08:36
none of this is new or interesting or particularly helpful, imo. We already have virtually all of the things on your list and they're ineffective as ever. The point about the "worst democrat" is particularly silly, imo, because it describes the last two presidents on the United States, one of which is actually considered a great statesman and is wildly popular even among more progressive democrats.


2) go into minority neighborhoods no matter you might be afriad of "the wrong side of the tracks" hand out leaflets or zines showing how the current system has always been against them as well as pointing out the benifits that would incur to all people including them if that system was replaced


ah yes the white student's burden approach to agitation

Rugged Collectivist
8th June 2013, 08:48
Some of these are okay but there's a lot to be desired here. For example, falsely accusing your enemies of pedophilia probably won't work and it could backfire really badly.

Also, proselytizing at random people in minority neighborhoods just seems condescending and awkward. I doubt you would be taken seriously.


In politics, the means justify the ends.Are you sure you didn't get this backwards?

#FF0000
8th June 2013, 08:50
Some of these are okay but there's a lot to be desired here. For example, falsely accusing your enemies of pedophilia probably won't work and it could backfire really badly.

Yeah, that one is really, really dumb.

BIXX
8th June 2013, 21:19
Also the electing a stupid democrat most likely wouldn't work- rather people would just say "oh the left wing won't do shit right, time to go to the republicans". At least, that's how it tends to go in my neighborhood. And all the lying and shot I find repulsive. Like, I find it to be elitist to assume that the masses aren't deserving of the truth. Everyone deserves the truth (under normal circumstances), whether it is convenient to you or not.