Bush wants "moon base"

[Ortega]

What do you think about this pitiful waste of money, Sam Adams?

Bush Wants Moon Base (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3910698/)

There are so many better things that could be done with our country's money, and Bush decides to build a moon base.

[Sam Adams]

So you would prefer we not advance the interests of mankind?

right....

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

No, I would prefer not to advance the interests of the American military and corporate kind.

[Stalinator]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 08:08 PM
No, I would prefer not to advance the interests of the American military and corporate kind.
But you also support Hitler as your constant posting of Hitler images proves.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Wrong, the Hitler pics are what I think of your ideas. You just love to follow the fuhrur Bush.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Sam [email protected] 9 2004, 03:06 PM
So you would prefer we not advance the interests of mankind?

right....
How is it helping mankind to have a MILITARY base on the MOON?!?!?!

[Intifada]

But you also support Hitler as your constant posting of Hitler images proves.

i think youll find that el profe is a capitalist scumbag

[Stalinator]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 08:12 PM
Wrong, the Hitler pics are what I think of your ideas. You just love to follow the fuhrur Bush.
Incorrect.

[Sam Adams]

"how is sending a couple ships to india going to further the interests of mankind? what a waste."

-idiots, in 1491.

[FatFreeMilk]

oh ok, that's a very good analogy.

[Stalinator]

Originally posted by Sam [email protected] 9 2004, 08:26 PM
"how is sending a couple ships to india going to further the interests of mankind? what a waste."
They'd rather spend it on lazy welfare bums and concentration camps, methinks.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 08:15 PM

But you also support Hitler as your constant posting of Hitler images proves.

i think youll find that el profe is a capitalist scumbag
? Are you saying I am a nazi?? YOU KNOW HITLER WOULD OF ALSO HATE TO SEE ISRAEL and he would of wanted Israel destoryed, just like you. :lol: :lol: :lol:


No one is/was bithcing about the russian spacestation but if the USA builds a spacestation or a spacestation on the moon you all start *****ing. What if China wanted to have a spacestation on the moon, you would all start praising them, its amazing how if the USA does anything you hate it, even if its good.

The same argument could be given as to why the russians wanted to go to the moon first. You people just hate anything America does.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by Sam [email protected] 9 2004, 03:26 PM
"how is sending a couple ships to india going to further the interests of mankind? what a waste."

-idiots, in 1491.
Georgie Bush has expressly said that the moon base will be used ONLY FOR MILITARY PURPOSES, and that the United States is building now so that they can "beat the other countries".
There is obviously nothing in it for mankind.
Besides, the moon has already been discovered... There&#39;s no way you can compare this to Chrstopher Colombus&#39;s voyage. <_<

[Stalinator]

Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.

[Ahura Mazda]

I think its great that we are finally going to be doing something with the moon. It would be better if private companies did it, but you take what you can get. This is one of those things that you don&#39;t see the benefits for until after it has been done, but some of them will should be obvious.

1. If you haven&#39;t already figured it out, don&#39;t mess with the US or its aliies. You can&#39;t win.

2. Paving the way for private companies to colonise the moon. Think of the mining that could be done&#33; Also, as it has no atmosphere, it is an easier place to start from with the rest of the universe.

[Guest1]

Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.

know that I&#39;m sick of your attempts to get a response. you&#39;re gonna have it. I&#39;m asking for you to be banned, racist fuck.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by Ortega+Jan 9 2004, 08:13 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ortega @ Jan 9 2004, 08:13 PM)
Sam [email protected] 9 2004, 03:06 PM
So you would prefer we not advance the interests of mankind?

right....
How is it helping mankind to have a MILITARY base on the MOON?&#33;?&#33;?&#33; [/b]
Obviously we have to protect earth against terrorists from outerspace......

For once I have to agree with the leftists. It&#39;s a ridicoulous waste of money. The whole space program was a waste of money except for sattelites.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by Hoppe+Jan 9 2004, 10:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hoppe @ Jan 9 2004, 10:53 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 08:13 PM

Sam [email protected] 9 2004, 03:06 PM
So you would prefer we not advance the interests of mankind?

right....
How is it helping mankind to have a MILITARY base on the MOON?&#33;?&#33;?&#33;
Obviously we have to protect earth against terrorists from outerspace......

For once I have to agree with the leftists. It&#39;s a ridicoulous waste of money. The whole space program was a waste of money except for sattelites. [/b]
Base on the moon is a waste of money, Missions to mars, I dont think are a waste of money.

Unless the moon actually has some usefull resources then a base on it is useless.

Missions to mars are usefull.

What pisses me off about this, is the fact that if China wanted another mission to the moon everyone would be praising them, but since its the USA they hate it. They probably also hate the fact that the USA wants to land a man on mars in the future.

[timbaly]

A military base on the moons seems like a waste of money but a scientific research base would seem ok to me. Much of our technology starts out by being used by NASA a moon base could further technology for use on earth, but I doubt if it will ever be created if it is not made for space related purposes because there would be no reason to make these things otherwise.

I also have a question, didn&#39;t the US and USSR sign some kind of treaty that would not allow militarization in space? Has this treaty expired or is the US deciding that no nation can stop it so it will do what it wants?

[Anarchist Freedom]

wow stalinator your a sad mistake for a stalinist.

This is probably the dumbest thing ive ever seen a president do, hes only doing it so he can pull a trick on the U&#036;A example: im launvhing a war on syria now. the peoples response......


you have got to be kidding me i hope bush gets killed now.


:che:

[timbaly]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 05:59 PM
What pisses me off about this, is the fact that if China wanted another mission to the moon everyone would be praising them, but since its the USA they hate it. They probably also hate the fact that the USA wants to land a man on mars in the future.
I can honestly say that I don&#39;t support China for doing something and spite the US for the same thing. I hope most of those here are not blind ideologues and agree with my statement as well.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 05:45 PM
Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.
Dealing with the savage Indians? I&#39;m going to put this as lightly as possible.... FUCK YOU&#33; YOU RACIST SON OF *****&#33;&#33;&#33; I HOPE SOME INDIANS CUT YOU UP, ROAST YOU OVER AN OPEN FIRE, AND FEED YOU TO THE WOLVES YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE&#33; THE ONLY SAVAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IS YOU, YOU FUCKING STUCK UP PEICE OF SHIT&#33;&#33;

[revoevo]

So you would prefer we not advance the interests of mankind?

right....


Wouldn&#39;t the primary interests of mankind be using those billions of dollars to HELP mankind, instead of colonizing the moon?


I think its great that we are finally going to be doing something with the moon. It would be better if private companies did it, but you take what you can get. This is one of those things that you don&#39;t see the benefits for until after it has been done, but some of them will should be obvious.

1. If you haven&#39;t already figured it out, don&#39;t mess with the US or its aliies. You can&#39;t win.

2. Paving the way for private companies to colonise the moon. Think of the mining that could be done&#33; Also, as it has no atmosphere, it is an easier place to start from with the rest of the universe.


So, let me get this straight: you want to give rich coporations the control of the MOON?&#33; You know, we haven&#39;t finished destroying Earth&#39;s enviroment and exhausting its&#39; natural resources, yet. Don&#39;t you think we should finish the job before we expand our horizons to include the moon and the rest of the universe? Heaven forbid we should be greedy&#33; <_<

[lucid]

revoevo,

Do you know where that kid in your avatar lives? I&#39;ll give him a job making 10 cents a day cleaning my chimney.

[Guest1]

Stalinator is not a stalinist, he&#39;s one of these capitalist trolls. Hopefully he&#39;ll be gone soon.

As for the treaty, space in general is off limits to weaponry, to any country, not just russia and the us.

[kylie]

Originally posted by MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr+Jan 10 2004, 12:11 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr @ Jan 10 2004, 12:11 AM)
[email protected] 9 2004, 05:45 PM
Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.
Dealing with the savage Indians? I&#39;m going to put this as lightly as possible.... FUCK YOU&#33; YOU RACIST SON OF *****&#33;&#33;&#33; I HOPE SOME INDIANS CUT YOU UP, ROAST YOU OVER AN OPEN FIRE, AND FEED YOU TO THE WOLVES YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE&#33; THE ONLY SAVAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IS YOU, YOU FUCKING STUCK UP PEICE OF SHIT&#33;&#33; [/b]
You realise you are encouraging an old stereotype of native americans right there, yes?

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Maybe, I&#39;m sorry about that, but I&#39;m part Indian, and I&#39;m sure any other Indian would be more then happy to opplige to knock someone off who supports genocide. I was pissed, that fucker should fry.

[revoevo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 11:25 PM
revoevo,

Do you know where that kid in your avatar lives? I&#39;ll give him a job making 10 cents a day cleaning my chimney.
what the fuck? leave starving biafrans refugees out of your snide remarks. <_<

[lucid]

Originally posted by revoevo+Jan 10 2004, 12:28 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (revoevo @ Jan 10 2004, 12:28 AM)
[email protected] 9 2004, 11:25 PM
revoevo,

Do you know where that kid in your avatar lives? I&#39;ll give him a job making 10 cents a day cleaning my chimney.
what the fuck? leave starving biafrans refugees out of your snide remarks. <_< [/b]
Is that a picture of your little sister? If so no wonder your such an angry person :)

[Sam Adams]

These socialists are a violent and vicious lot.

[lucid]

Originally posted by Sam [email protected] 10 2004, 12:37 AM
These socialists are a violent and vicious lot.
I wonder if communism is a side affect of long term ritalin exposure.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr+Jan 9 2004, 11:11 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr @ Jan 9 2004, 11:11 PM)
[email protected] 9 2004, 05:45 PM
Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.
Dealing with the savage Indians? I&#39;m going to put this as lightly as possible.... FUCK YOU&#33; YOU RACIST SON OF *****&#33;&#33;&#33; I HOPE SOME INDIANS CUT YOU UP, ROAST YOU OVER AN OPEN FIRE, AND FEED YOU TO THE WOLVES YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE&#33; THE ONLY SAVAGE THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH IS YOU, YOU FUCKING STUCK UP PEICE OF SHIT&#33;&#33; [/b]
I dont know if your american indian, But latin american indians where killed because they would refuse to become catholics. Many of them died that way, other with diseases, wars, hard labor.

my point is the catholic church has persecuted many people including: muslims, jews, protestans , they killed the indians that refused to become catholic, and killed and persecuted other religion/poeple too.

Columbus should not be blamed(im not saying you did blame him) for the killing of all those indians, other people should like the other conquistadors and the catholic church.

[revoevo]

lucid, I&#39;m not a violent person. I just don&#39;t appreciate your snide comments. i wouldn&#39;t mind debating with a level-headed, somewhat decent right-wing capitalist, but from what i&#39;ve seen not one that comes to che-lives can form any intelligent opinions. don&#39;t waste my time.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 04:45 PM
Columbus voyage was a great thing. A lot of savage Injuns were dealt with as a result. And the moon base won&#39;t be used solely for military purposes.
Stalinator, you are nothing but a disgrace to the true Stalinists on this board. I&#39;m amazed you haven&#39;t been banned yet - you certainly deserve it.
How can someone so blatantly racist be allowed on Che-Lives?&#33;?&#33;

[Don't Change Your Name]

With all the problems we have here...WHY THE HELL WE NEED TO SPEND ON GOING TO THE MOON IF ALL THESE PROBLEMS HAVENT BEEN FIXED YET????


You people just hate anything America does.

No, we only hate what people like Bush do.


I wonder if communism is a side affect of long term ritalin exposure.

No, it&#39;s a side effect of long term exploitation exposure.


my point is the catholic church has persecuted many people including: muslims, jews, protestans , they killed the indians that refused to become catholic, and killed and persecuted other religion/poeple too.

Columbus should not be blamed(im not saying you did blame him) for the killing of all those indians, other people should like the other conquistadors and the catholic church.

Yes...however, if you ask some of those old religious bastards they will blame the capitalis...I mean the conquerors...

[Don't Change Your Name]

Look at what I found on that link:


Some members of Congress have said they want to ensure that the United States remains the global leader in space exploration.

"If we don&#39;t do it, somebody else will," said U.S. Rep. Bart Gordon of Tennessee, a ranking Democrat on the House Science Committee. "The Chinese, the Europeans and the Japanese all have the goal of going to the moon. Certainly we don&#39;t want to wake up and see that they have a base there before we do."

This clearly shows they want to conquer the moon at all costs...they don&#39;t care about mankind... they want to be first to exploit the moon...I see many ***** hotels on the moon, huge propaganda, new entertainments over there...but no benefits to mankind...only to the exploiters.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 06:25 PM
revoevo,

Do you know where that kid in your avatar lives? I&#39;ll give him a job making 10 cents a day cleaning my chimney.
lucid,

Do you want anyone to listen to you? Do you actually want to persuade people with your arguments? Or are you just here to piss us off?

You are a living example of the greedy, heartless, Capitalist pig. And you don&#39;t even have a valid argument. All you can do is make fun of starving Biafran refugees.
Do you know where Biafra is, lucid?
Probably not.
Have you ever been starving or poor?
Almost certainly not.

You have no idea what suffering is, and if you did you would most certainly not be mocking a poor African child who has been through so much more than you ever will. And do you know why that child is suffering? Do you know why the nation of Biafra was crushed and its people starved? BECAUSE of your ideology of choice, capitalism.

[lucid]

Originally posted by Ortega+Jan 10 2004, 04:54 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ortega @ Jan 10 2004, 04:54 AM)
[email protected] 9 2004, 06:25 PM
revoevo,

Do you know where that kid in your avatar lives? I&#39;ll give him a job making 10 cents a day cleaning my chimney.
lucid,

Do you want anyone to listen to you? Do you actually want to persuade people with your arguments? Or are you just here to piss us off?

You are a living example of the greedy, heartless, Capitalist pig. And you don&#39;t even have a valid argument. All you can do is make fun of starving Biafran refugees.
Do you know where Biafra is, lucid?
Probably not.
Have you ever been starving or poor?
Almost certainly not.

You have no idea what suffering is, and if you did you would most certainly not be mocking a poor African child who has been through so much more than you ever will. And do you know why that child is suffering? Do you know why the nation of Biafra was crushed and its people starved? BECAUSE of your ideology of choice, capitalism. [/b]
When I first got here people treated me like a Capitalist Pig. So I started acting like one.
I&#39;ll try and chill a little.

[Ortega]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 11:58 PM
When I first got here people treated me like a Capitalist Pig. So I started acting like one.
I&#39;ll try and chill a little.
:blink:

Wow... that might be the best response I&#39;ve ever seen from one of the restricted members, especially one that I expected so little from. Thanks lucid, I wish the other members were as open as you. I respect you more now, I can say that, and I&#39;m prepared to listen openly if you have valid points to discuss and debate.

Thanks for your response :)

-Ortega :cuba: