Anonymous supplies wrong address....

[blake 3:17]

Something to consider...

Colchester EDL address is home to mum and two kids

6:00pm Thursday 30th May 2013 in News
THE address published as the home of an EDL donor in Colchester belongs to a single mum with two children.

Campaigners linked to the hacking protest group Anonymous published details of senior English Defence League members online yesterday, after posting a video vowing to bring down the organisation.

In the video, it condemns the EDL for using the death of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich as an excuse to spread a campaign of “hate and bigotry” before announcing its ‘Operation EDL’.

But one address off Brinkley Grove Road, in Colchester, listed as the home of a male EDL donor, is occupied by a mum with two young children. She said she had no links to the EDL.

“I can’t believe it,” she said.

“I’m worried now. I have two young children and I’ve just moved in three weeks ago. The EDL is nothing to do with me.”

She added: “It concerns me that this could be published without anyone knowing.

“If this has happened to me, I wonder how many other people are in the same boat around the country.”

She also said she would contact Essex Police and her estate agent, the David Martin Group.

http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/10450731.Colchester_EDL_address_is_home_to_mum_and _two_kids/

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

This is always a risk when these kinds of contact details are leaked...calls into question whether or not it's even a viable 'tactic' in combatting certain groups. The idea of this woman and her kids being attacked or terrorised by some over-zealous anti-fa activist makes me think it's not worth it. Easier to obtain details of high-profile members / leadership and focus on them.

[Anti-White]

This is fucking criminal!

[BIXX]

This is always a risk when these kinds of contact details are leaked...calls into question whether or not it's even a viable 'tactic' in combating certain groups. The idea of this woman and her kids being attacked or terrorized by some over-zealous anti-fa activist makes me think it's not worth it. Easier to obtain details of high-profile members / leadership and focus on them.

I believe we should primarily focus on the leaders, but if you have a 100% positivity that there is a fascist that you can do something about, I'd say do it. Just make fucking sure.

I imagine that this woman either had a similar address to the guy that anonymous tried to expose, or that she lived near him. I honestly have a problem with anonymous in a lot of ways. Overall I feel they are really not a useful part of the revolutionary left. But then again, I don't know everything about all their actions, maybe they've done more good than I know about.

[Leftsolidarity]

Stupid and sloppy error. It's also possible that the person that was the EDL donor previously lived there since it says she just moved in 3 weeks ago. If you're targeting fascists and leaking their personal info you better be damn sure it's correct.

[rednordman]

Stupid and sloppy error. It's also possible that the person that was the EDL donor previously lived there since it says she just moved in 3 weeks ago. If you're targeting fascists and leaking their personal info you better be damn sure it's correct.It isn't entirely unreasonable that she may in fact be trying to play a bluff and make 'anonymous' look really bad in the process. Who says a single mother of 2, could not be a fervent supporter of the EDL. Its highly unlikely, but not impossible.

[Leftsolidarity]

It isn't entirely unreasonable that she may in fact be trying to play a bluff and make 'anonymous' look really bad in the process. Who says a single mother of 2, could not be a fervent supporter of the EDL. Its highly unlikely, but not impossible.

It said it was a "male" supporter.

[rednordman]

It said it was a "male" supporter.I do concede that its very very unlikely that she was a supporter, but this is all a bit too convenient for the EDL...kind of makes me suspicious. I don't like anonymous, but they are not idiots either, and they know their hacking.

[Leftsolidarity]

I do concede that its very very unlikely that she was a supporter, but this is all a bit too convenient for the EDL...kind of makes me suspicious. I don't like anonymous, but they are not idiots either, and they know their hacking.

"Anonymous" can be any fuckwit with a computer that calls themselves "anonymous" and they've been known to do stupid shit before.

Edit: how is it convenient for the EDL? This is just a mother and 2 kids, the info is clearly wrong. It's not some EDL conspiracy. For organizations I'm in I've helped do lots of data basing and you wouldn't believe how much personal info is incorrectly filled out or at one point was correct but their address/phone/email/last name changed.

[rednordman]

"Anonymous" can be any fuckwit with a computer that calls themselves "anonymous" and they've been known to do stupid shit before.

Edit: how is it convenient for the EDL? This is just a mother and 2 kids, the info is clearly wrong. It's not some EDL conspiracy. For organizations I'm in I've helped do lots of data basing and you wouldn't believe how much personal info is incorrectly filled out or at one point was correct but their address/phone/email/last name changed.its convenient to the EDL because it makes some people who oppose the EDL look like wannabe Orwellian tyrants...just what the EDL would want. And that is to see anonymous as some 'anti-fascists liberal fantasists'. We all know that is ridiculous, but most other people will not, and quite likely take the EDLs words for it.

[Sam_b]

And that is to see anonymous as some 'anti-fascists liberal fantasists'

That's exactly what they are.

[The Idler]

How about don't go to intimidate anyone in their home?

Honestly, the publishing of addresses was used (in all probability at the behest of British intelligence) in Northern Ireland with fatal consequences on both sides thanks to over-zealous thugs.

[Leftsolidarity]

How about don't go to intimidate anyone in their home?

Honestly, the publishing of addresses was used (in all probability at the behest of British intelligence) in Northern Ireland with fatal consequences on both sides thanks to over-zealous thugs.

If I knew a Neo-Nazi lived in my neighborhood you can be damn sure I'd fuck with them at their home. The struggle doesn't end when people go home at night.

[rednordman]

That's exactly what they are.Yes but that Doesn't exactly erase my point. At a time when edl is gaining popularity, it wont be hard for them to convince people that anonymous = the same viewpoint as the whole of the left wing opposition.

[Sam_b]

Your argument is a pointless one. You're basically stating that the EDL tries to discredit all opposition to them as being mad leftists. They've done this for years already. It hasn't stuck.

[theghostofnestor]

Worrying yes but I don't know anyone or think any real anti fascists would act on info, such as this leaked list, without doing some recon/research first (well I would like to believe that). There is not a lot of doubt in my mind that the info was related to the previous owner, I myself have had debt collectors turn up where I have been staying looking for previous owners.

Probably wouldn't be that hard to find out where the individual now resides. She does not mention if the named person matches the person who lived there prior to her moving in, she must get letters for the previous owner!

I understand the point made but comparing this leaked list to the state providing info to racist loyalist gangs is a bit of a jump, to put it mildly. What's more I really doubt any extreme action, such as that taken by loyalist gangs, would be taken based on a anonymous list. The likes of the EDL are easy enough to trace.

Again this is a unfortunate incident and I do feel for this women and her little ones but I do think lists like this serve a purpose of sorts. While dregs like the EDL might shout loud in groups and on Facebook. Lists such as this can help their local community find out exactly what they stand for

[Skywave]

I know of this woman through a friend. She's since had a swastika painted on her door. Sloppy by Anonymous.

[rednordman]

I know of this woman through a friend. She's since had a swastika painted on her door. Sloppy by Anonymous.I wonder who decided to do that? sure people don't like fascists, but stuff like this usually ends up getting ignored.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

Come on guys, this is this guys first post and he already writes about knowing the woman and her havign aswastika painted on her door. Absolute bullshit. On top of that :
a.) addresses were released with names attached to them. I don't seem to remember ANY antifascist attacks on locations targeting wrong people and we would be damn sure to hear about them if they had happened. Also this is a well known fash tactic to deny any involvement and pretend they are on the list completely by accident. Similar situation with anonymous and OpBlitzkrieg and info about people in Poland buying clothes from a fash store- antifascists received fair bit of emails denying any involvement with the far right and that included people we knew for a FACT were fash. So really, stop wasting your time on moaning about anonymous and ask yourself what have YOU done on the field of anti-fascism.
Also, world is surely about to end as I agree with post written by Sam B ;)

[Leftsolidarity]

So really, stop wasting your time on moaning about anonymous and ask yourself what have YOU done on the field of anti-fascism.

Umm, not leak incorrect info that lands a bunch of angry people on the doorstep of a mother and her kids?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

and how do you know that the info is incorrect and also how do you know that it landed any angry people at their door ffs?

[Leftsolidarity]

and how do you know that the info is incorrect and also how do you know that it landed any angry people at their door ffs?

I refer back to all the other comments in this thread about how it is clearly incorrect info and one poster says they indirectly knows them, it might not be true but I don't see how you could think the info is correct.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

one poster that knows them that incidentally made it his first comment ha ha ;) Need to learn a bit more about way of trolling.
As for how it is "clearly" wrong info- well, I don't see anything "clear" about it. Unless you consider clear proof is that somebody said it on the internet. Once agaoin, any proof the info is incorrect? Any PROOF it landed any angry people on the door of anybody, nevermind an innocent person?

[Leftsolidarity]

one poster that knows them that incidentally made it his first comment ha ha ;) Need to learn a bit more about way of trolling.
As for how it is "clearly" wrong info- well, I don't see anything "clear" about it. Unless you consider clear proof is that somebody said it on the internet. Once agaoin, any proof the info is incorrect? Any PROOF it landed any angry people on the door of anybody, nevermind an innocent person?

So the proof I have is on the internet which you say makes it unreliable. All your proof of it being correct is that it was released by someone labeled "Anonymous" on the internet. That's way more reliable....

[Dropdead]

This is always a big risk. Hopefully we won't see more cases like this.

[Skywave]

Yes, it was my first post. I didn't mean to cause a theoretical argument about it. I was told by a friend (a usually reliable friend) who lives in the same town as I and the woman in the original post that this was the case. Of course, it may or may not be true, but I am inclined to believe so. I am of course not asking you to without any foundation.

[Anarchist Skinhead]

So basically your "proof" is that somebody said it to a local paper, than then printed it. Nobody checked whether she has nothing to do with EDL, nobody checked whether in fact she even lives there, you just assumed it was a wrong address and also assumed (since you failed to offer any proof as well) that it landed some "angry people" at her door step, whereas even that article doesn't mention it. I rest my case.

[Skywave]

Local paper? Who said anything about a local paper?

[Anarchist Skinhead]

story in a first post had been linked to website of some paper, I assumed its local?

[Skywave]

Presumed you were replying in response directly to a quote of mine. Yes Gazette is the main local paper here.

[Anti-White]

If I knew a Neo-Nazi lived in my neighborhood you can be damn sure I'd fuck with them at their home. The struggle doesn't end when people go home at night.

Oh shit, that's some big fuckin' talk, keyboard commando. Are you sure you wouldn't wet your pants and call the moving van?

I would like to believe you but there are a lot of talking motherfuckers on this site.

[Leftsolidarity]

Oh shit, that's some big fuckin' talk, keyboard commando. Are you sure you wouldn't wet your pants and call the moving van?

I would like to believe you but there are a lot of talking motherfuckers on this site.

Haha you have like 15 posts you don't know who's who here. That isn't even big internet talk. I just said that if a neo-nazi was in my neighborhood I wouldn't let them live in peace. I think most people would would consider themselves serious communists or even just care about their neighborhood would do the that. And I love my neighborhood and consider myself a serious communist.