Unbelievable TV Show Propaganda

[empireofred]

There's this TV show I recently heard about. It's called "Continuum". It's a Canadian production, and it is about a woman cop that lives in 2077 where the corporations rule the world. At that time some revolutionaries find a way to go back in time, in present day, and try to change the course of the events. The cop (the protagonist) is vigilant so she follows them back in time, and along with another cop, tries to stop them.
We are supposed to support the oppressor.
The revolutionaries are portrayed as pot smokers, and they kill unnecessarily.

This really is a maddening show, how it has a 7.6 rating on ImDb is beyond me.

Thoughts?

[Fury]

Almost every commercial tv-show tries to convince the spectators that the oppressors are the good ones.
Nothing special.

[Il Medico]

This really is a maddening show, how it has a 7.6 rating on ImDb is beyond me.

The quality of tv shows and movies have next to nothing to do with their political stance.

[BIXX]

There's this TV show I recently heard about. It's called "Continuum". It's a Canadian production, and it is about a woman cop that lives in 2077 where the corporations rule the world. At that time some revolutionaries find a way to go back in time, in present day, and try to change the course of the events. The cop (the protagonist) is vigilant so she follows them back in time, and along with another cop, tries to stop them.
We are supposed to support the oppressor.
The revolutionaries are portrayed as pot smokers, and they kill unnecessarily.

This really is a maddening show, how it has a 7.6 rating on ImDb is beyond me.

Thoughts?

I thought that the show would turn out that she ended up supporting the revolutionaries blah blah blah. But it didn't :(

Then one of the lines when the anarchist was being interrogated... The interrogator was accusing this anarchist of just being an asshole, essentially, and the anarchist was like "we're anarchists, that's what we do".

The writers are obviously anti-anarchism. But oh well, what can you expect.

[Fourth Internationalist]

Then one of the lines when the anarchist was being interrogated... The interrogator was accusing this anarchist of just being an asshole, essentially, and the anarchist was like "we're anarchists, that's what we do".

C'mon you gotta admit that this is true. :lol:

[Deity]

C'mon you gotta admit that this is true. :lol:

Hey now, we're assholes with a purpose

[BIXX]

Hey now, we're assholes with a purpose

... Shit. I forgot what the purpose was.

Damnit! I guess I'm just an asshole :laugh:

[MarxSchmarx]

I could have sworn there was an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that kind of already did this.

[empireofred]

The quality of tv shows and movies have next to nothing to do with their political stance.

Still, if you understand the idea it conveys, I think it's hard to give it a good rating.

[Sky Hedgehogian Maestro]

Meh, sometimes I try not to let the message stand in the way of the quality. Sometimes, I just can't stands it enough though so I stopped watching it after an episode or two.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I could have sworn there was an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that kind of already did this.

Are you talking about Terminator or, one of the sequels? Unless there's been another Arnie movie involving time travel that I'm unaware of, I don't think so. Time travel is a very common science fiction plot device in any case.

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

The writers are obviously anti-anarchism. But oh well, what can you expect.

How are you to sell an anti-capitalist movie to a bunch of capitalists?
That's right...

[Hit The North]

It's highly rare that a show will set up a corporate-police-state dystopia and ask the audience to root for it against a bunch of freedom-fighters.

[Luís Henrique]

Hey now, we're assholes with a purpose

Arseholes don't have a purpose - that is creationism - they merely evolved to match the function they are used to...

... and we know what such function is. :D

Luís Henrique

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

Arseholes don't have a purpose - that is creationism - they merely evolved to match the function they are used to...

... and we know what such function is. :D

Luís Henrique

No, Creationists are assholes without a clue. We are assholes with a cause.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I could have sworn there was an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that kind of already did this.

"Total Recall"? That's the only Arnie "Arnie serves as an appendage of authoritarian corporate police state in order to thwart freedom fighters" movie I can think of.

[RadioRaheem84]

Movies and tv shows have been largely anti-revolutionary, pro-corporate state and pro military. That's normal.

Especially since 9/11 I could never see some of the old episodes of the Xfiles seeing network TV.

For good quality and mild social commentary with liberal slant you go cable.

Network TV and mainstream movies are largely reactionary propaganda.

[KarlLeft]

Movies and tv shows have been largely anti-revolutionary, pro-corporate state and pro military. That's normal.
...
Network TV and mainstream movies are largely reactionary propaganda.

There's a kind of fascist flavor in the movies being produced now based on comic book superheroes. The story is always the same: a god-like super-being saves the world from ultimate evil, usually with the help of the U.S military.

Are these movies popular because the masses want a strongman to "protect" them from this week's "ultimate evil" or is it that these movies are being produced by capitalists who have an interest in promoting the "leader principle"?

[RadioRaheem84]

There's a kind of fascist flavor in the movies being produced now based on comic book superheroes. The story is always the same: a god-like super-being saves the world from ultimate evil, usually with the help of the U.S military.

Are these movies popular because the masses want a strongman to "protect" them from this week's "ultimate evil" or is it that these movies are being produced by capitalists who have an interest in promoting the "leader principle"?

Yes comic book movies are very reactionary. They champion the alpha male. Rich billionaires, Blonde Gods, and All American patriotic alpha males fighting against the evil people which largely turn out to marginalized groups, from mental health patients, social outcasts, etc.

[Sky Hedgehogian Maestro]

Well they don't want to champion the common man. That would work against their interests, after all. And even if they did, if you had a movie where a group of the marginalized fought the rich man, you'd have conservatives ranting and raving about how "evil" and "liberal" and "subversive" and "anti-American" it is.
Yep. America is only for the rich. Can't talk about the rich. You can mow down the poor for just about any reason, but if you kill a rich guy/girl and it's NOT for romantic drama and it's shown in a remotely positive light (unless the guy's an absolute total asshole, and even then he's probably going to be exaggerated), you're a communist mongrel who hates Jesus and freedom.

I don't want to keep plugging this everywhere, but my story Mother Meki- none of you guys know how much the concept pissed off a conservative dude at my old school. Didn't explain a goddamn thing to him beyond "rich royal supports poor-man revolution against her own throne", and it was called "socialist, pro-Obama crap" when I said that the rebels/royal won at the end and didn't set up a capitalist government.
He said it was the 'perfect opportunity to show off a libertarian paradise.' (Not those exact words, it was more like "You know what Glenn Beck says, why not make a story like that?" I am... scared to see a what a story set in Glenn Beck's fantasy world would look like.) I'll just continue this in its own thread- the point is, we've been so successfully brainwashed into believing the typical 'pro-corporate' propaganda, to the common viewer, anything even attempting to deviate from it will be seen as subversive material. It's probably why leftist themes are common only in indie movies and cy-fi.

Pro-Money = Pro-America. Pro-Corporation = Pro-America. It only makes it even funnier considering that the pinnacle of conservatism- the founding fathers and Jesus Christ- were aggressively against everything they stand for. Founding fathers were liberal, deist, anti-corp, anti-government... Jesus would tell the poor to not accept subjugation by the rich and stand against their oppressors (and didn't support anything like a family; in fact, showed signs of collectivism)... But today, nope- George Washington would be a fan of Goldman-Sachs, and Jesus Christ would be a stockbroker supporting the nuclear family and blind patriotism and '70s southern rock. Yep. Makes a lot of sense.

[RadioRaheem84]

The United States is very unique, although this idea is spreading worldwide, in that the rich man is very much envied, respected, idolized and tolerated. To denounce him is to conduct class warfare and exhibit a trait rich people call class envy. It's immature, vulgar and dowright pathetic in their eyes to critique the rich in any which way.

You can have maybe a rich villian who is just such a bad person that he deserves to be purged from society but these days there have been a lot of mob bosses that have filled those roles.

Lately, there has been a lot of libertarian ideas flooding into Hollywood as a lot of the writers are geeky lolbertarian types that read Reason and think conservatives are too uptight and liberal progressives are too full of envy.

We live in an era that is probably just as bad if not worse than McCarthyism. they don't have to outright blacklist you anymore, your ideas are already blacklisted and they'll get marginalized or tossed out on first reading.

[DROSL]

No wonder. Canada's emperor, Stephen Harper, has an amazing censorship department. Back in 1970 there was a communist-separatist group called "Front de libération du Québec" (Quebec Liberation Front) and it took 10 years for a producer to acquire funds to produce the movie about it. Finally it was release with massive changes from the original script.

[Sotionov]

It's a nice propaganda of the deed show :D