Revleft dating advice. [Archive]

Futility Personified

28th May 2013, 06:17

Dunno if this is good advice, but what i've found is helpful is:

Persistence is useful, but overrated. There are 7 billion people on this planet, and if you think that the one who doesn't love you back is right for you, you are deluded.

Rejection is a fact of life, be it employment related, emotional or to do with coffee and your stomach lining. Embrace it, try yourself in places where you wouldn't normally do so, to assimilate the idea of moving forwards consistently.

Being natural around someone is the best way to find a good match. We all feel the pressure to try our best and be oh-so-fucking wonderful, but a few jokes of your own making and a smile will work more efficiently than pretending you are something you aren't.

I'm a terrible human being, but those precepts seem to do me good.

Sasha

28th May 2013, 06:33

Aaah, the folly of youth...

The Douche

28th May 2013, 14:50

People taking dating advice from Revleft are idiots.

^^^^^^^

melvin

29th May 2013, 03:48

just act like you normally do unless you only talk about leftism all day every day in which case don't act like you normally do. thats pretty much all you need to know. jeez.

La Guaneña

29th May 2013, 03:59

drugs

MarxSchmarx

29th May 2013, 04:24

People taking dating advice from Revleft are idiots.

Desperate times...

Why can't my first meetings over coffee progress beyond a discussion of Plekhanov's crypto-nationalism into really meaningful, deep topics? wait is this a joke
because i will take that date off your hands if you dont want it, seriously
No i don't think anyone talks like that off the internet.

as cyu said:

Seriously though - internet forums tend to be filled with guys. No matter what your views on stuff like Occupy is, you'll have better luck there - not to mention you'll actually see real live human beings ;)

Palmares

29th May 2013, 06:24

...a discussion of Plekhanov's crypto-nationalism...

:thumbdown:

I'm sure if something like that ever came up in conversation, I'd be a virgin.

Let's Get Free

29th May 2013, 06:29

"You cause a mass uprising..... in my pants."

Good pick-up line or no?

Kalinin's Facial Hair

29th May 2013, 20:27

Wait, so you're saying that talking about 20th century Russian marxists isn't a good pick-up line?

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages

29th May 2013, 21:05

Try to tie communism into as many topics as you can. If for some reason the person tries to change the subject, go in for some personal attacks about their commitment to people in the third world. Rinse and repeat. Bring a condom comrades, you're gonna need it ;)1

Paul Pott

29th May 2013, 22:20

Most of revleft probably thinks condoms are for balloon animals.

Quail

29th May 2013, 22:23

Most of revleft probably thinks condoms are for balloon animals.

Wait, so you can actually do more exciting things with condoms than make balloon animals?

melvin

29th May 2013, 22:24

yeah you can fill them with paint and throw them at cars

Anglo-Saxon Philistine

29th May 2013, 23:58

One fellow I know, now a professor emeritus at the Department of Chemistry in Zagreb, would fill them with chemicals to make bombs and throw them at Nazis. Can't get more fun than that.

Kalinin's Facial Hair

30th May 2013, 00:32

One fellow I know, now a professor emeritus at the Department of Chemistry in Zagreb, would fill them with chemicals to make bombs and throw them at Nazis. Can't get more fun than that.

:laugh:

cyu

30th May 2013, 01:31

"You cause a mass uprising..... in my pants."

Good pick-up line or no?
Hi, my name's <your name here>. I'm going to...

A. Food Not Bombs
B. Reclaim Our Steets
C. The RATM concert
D. Do some spray painting

...on Friday night. Want to come?

You don't need to be Voltaire to get dates xD

Le Libérer

30th May 2013, 14:47

If some guy asked me to go spray painting with him on the first date I would flat out say no and probably never go out with him.

When I ask people out on a first date, its either to an art show or concert, somewhere where you can talk but have something to do during the lull moments so it won't be awkward. In fact, if I am interested in a guy or girl, I ask them to meet me at one of my art shows for the 1st date, that way I can make it through the crowd and give them all my attention so they will know they are special to me. Thats the point. To make them feel special, not to risk their arrests. Things like ROS or RATM shows are for 3rd or 4th dates.

cyu

30th May 2013, 21:03

If some guy asked me to go spray painting with him on the first date I would flat out say no and probably never go out with him... Thats the point. To make them feel special, not to risk their arrests.

I guess burglarizing the CEO of a multi-national corporation, or helping to defend FaSinPat is out of the question then =]

Doflamingo

31st May 2013, 02:40

Wait, so you can actually do more exciting things with condoms than make balloon animals?

You can use them as a way to transport water :grin:

Le Libérer

31st May 2013, 03:00

I guess burglarizing the CEO of a multi-national corporation, or helping to defend FaSinPat is out of the question then =]

You should wait at least a year for that behavior. ;)1

cyu

1st June 2013, 01:41

You should wait at least a year for that behavior.

Seize the means of production on the first date.

Hold hands on the second date ;)

Le Libérer

1st June 2013, 16:00

Seize the means of production on the first date.

Hold hands on the second date ;)
Yeah ok. Good luck with that.

It depends what you want out of the date. If you want to go out in a blaze of glory, go burglarize the CEO of a multi-national corporation, or help to defend FaSinPat. If you want to get laid, just ask to go fuck. But if you want to fall in love and make it stick, use this rule-
There are five universal human bonding dynamics:

Know, trust, rely, commit and sex.

Never go farther in one bonding dynamic than you have gone in the previous. (And, go in that order)

Otherwise you will end up getting fucked over and brokenhearted. Shit works. And if you use this rule, 9 times out of 10 you wont get to step 5 because you will find out they arent worthy of your time.

Paul Pott

1st June 2013, 16:24

There are five universal human bonding dynamics:

Know, trust, rely, commit and sex.

Never go farther in one bonding dynamic than you have gone in the previous. (And, go in that order)

I do that, but backwards

Sperm-Doll Setsuna

1st June 2013, 18:26

I guess burglarizing the CEO of a multi-national corporation, or helping to defend FaSinPat is out of the question then =]

burglarizing

Now that, that is a major turn-off. What vulgar language.

What excites my curiosity: how the fuck did the americans corrupt "burgling" to "burglarising", and why? Maybe it's old Webster at work again, promoting American essentialism by promoting misspellings in order to define it against common english...

Brutus

1st June 2013, 18:40

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Now that, that is a major turn-off. What vulgar language.

What excites my curiosity: how the fuck did the americans corrupt "burgling" to "burglarising", and why? Maybe it's old Webster at work again, promoting American essentialism by promoting misspellings in order to define it against common english...

We need to stand up against the bastardisation of our language by the Americans.

As for pick up lines: hey,are you bourgeois? 'Cos I feel an uprising in my lower classes

Paul Pott

1st June 2013, 20:35

American English is best English

Ele'ill

1st June 2013, 21:37

this thread sucks but is better now that I posted this here

Quail

1st June 2013, 21:41

We need to stand up against the bastardisation of our language by the Americans.

As for pick up lines: hey,are you bourgeois? 'Cos I feel an uprising in my lower classes

Pick up lines are always a no-no, even if they are communism-based.

Kalinin's Facial Hair

1st June 2013, 22:45

How come no one has thrown the 'let's socialize the means of reproduction?' yet?

cyu

2nd June 2013, 02:02

if you want to fall in love and make it stick, use this rule
I dunno, I would say there are no rules when falling in love. It happens whether you want it to or not. As for wanting others to falling in love with you, that's a different story altogether - and it's different from dating as well =]

Obviously you can be in love with someone without having had sex with them. You can be in love with someone without relying on them (or being dependent on them). You probably can't be in love with someone if you don't actually know them. Not sure what you mean by trust - someone can be in love with you even if they don't trust that you'll remember what groceries to get - but you probably mean something different. Maybe you mean they trust that you won't intentionally hurt them - well, it is hard to be in love with someone you think will intentionally hurt you - unless it's a bit of a twisted relationship xD
Commitment? Well, you know guys are afraid of commitment :laugh:

But the chemical feeling of falling in love? I'd still say it's when someone you find attractive continually props up your pride or self-esteem.

But if we're talking about a long term relationship, I wouldn't necessarily say sex is necessary (lots of people lose their sex-drive in old age, for example). I wouldn't say reliance is necessary... unless you mean they're a person you can always count on to try to help if you need it, even if you never need it. You would need to believe they won't intentionally hurt you, and you would need some kind of commitment if we're talking long term. It's kind of interesting I don't think you really need to know everything about the other person to have a long term relationship with them - it would be nice, but not vital. Loving the person you think they are versus loving the person you don't know they really are - could be scary, but I'd say lots of relationships play out this way... and no one is ever the wiser.

Nicolas_Cage

2nd June 2013, 02:16

As someone who isn't new to women (been married for 16 years to three women over the past 20 years), I feel like I can pass down my advice to you guys. Listen, your girlfriend or wife is there to serve to purposes: to be your friend and to satisfy your sexual desires. Essentially, they're just friends with holes. Who cares if you differ in ideology? You can still f*ck her brains out and you can still sit down and watch a movie together... isn't that what relationships are about?

BKPoHgKcqag

Ele'ill

3rd June 2013, 00:45

it looks like a lot of revleft is susceptible to going on first dates with federal agents except for nicolas cage who has spent today trying to get banned from the forum (which is funny because nobody cares enough about them to notice their posts to actually ban them)

Paul Pott

3rd June 2013, 01:12

fuck it, mariel you want to go on a date>

Ele'ill

3rd June 2013, 01:18

If you live near me I'll go for coffee or a beer

Paul Pott

3rd June 2013, 01:33

I probably don't live anywhere near you, haha.

blake 3:17

3rd June 2013, 07:13

Brutus

3rd June 2013, 13:40

Pick up lines are always a no-no, even if they are communism-based.

Damn! I thought we had something Quail!

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores

3rd June 2013, 15:33

This is probably one of the best threads I've ever read.

On a side note, if anyone from Revleft ever asked me to date them, I would without a doubt go for it.

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

3rd June 2013, 20:00

After reading this thread it looks like my fellow leftists are in dire need of an education on romantic affairs. After all, how are we supposed to achieve "the merger of the working class movement and the socialist movement" if we can not achieve the basic tasks of romance! As one who has a fair bit of experiance in this field you are welcome to ask me for advice, but for now I will post some links I have collected that will teach you the basic skills needed to be a revolutionary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9taaFEwZms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmmW8DXJzv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blUTdYQwrco

Ele'ill

3rd June 2013, 21:55

^ I read that with the voice of Inara from Firefly

The Feral Underclass

4th June 2013, 10:43

Cyu sounds fun.

The Garbage Disposal Unit

5th June 2013, 19:20

Cyu sounds fun.

Agreed. Def. in to any of those first date ideas, except that a RATM concert might be too much to lay down for a frist date in monetary terms.

I'm also partial to "Walk by the river and smoke a joint," or "Dig through the trash behind every Shoppers' in town," (a Canadian pharmacy/grocery store who consistently throw out tonnes of chocolate and organic smoothies and whatnot) as first date options.

Quail

5th June 2013, 19:24

Agreed. Def. in to any of those first date ideas, except that a RATM concert might be too much to lay down for a frist date in monetary terms.

I'm also partial to "Walk by the river and smoke a joint," or "Dig through the trash behind every Shoppers' in town," (a Canadian pharmacy/grocery store who consistently throw out tonnes of chocolate and organic smoothies and whatnot) as first date options.

Sounds like a classy date, digging through rubbish! Although it does sound kind of nice if you get chocolate out of it. It would just be funny to tell people about.

"So what are you doing on your date later with that cute person you met?"
"We're going to dig through some rubbish."
"How romantic!"

Brutus

5th June 2013, 20:50

VMC's a sucker for romance

Brutus

5th June 2013, 22:49

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/119/8/2/trotsky_s_chat_up_line__request__by_yuurei_shinnen-d63jbgx.jpg

Decolonize The Left

6th June 2013, 05:39

^ I read that with the voice of Inara from Firefly

bonus points

Geiseric

6th June 2013, 06:22

When i have a relationship problem, I just ask myself, what would bootsy collins do?

The Feral Underclass

6th June 2013, 11:17

http://th05.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/119/8/2/trotsky_s_chat_up_line__request__by_yuurei_shinnen-d63jbgx.jpg

This is pure, unmitigated genius.

The Feral Underclass

6th June 2013, 11:23

Agreed. Def. in to any of those first date ideas, except that a RATM concert might be too much to lay down for a frist date in monetary terms.

I SAW THEM FIRST!!!

Unless we go in for a threesome, then it's fine. Three-way first date? That would be Cute.

The Feral Underclass

6th June 2013, 11:26

When i have a relationship problem, I just ask myself, what would bootsy collins do?

I had to google who that was, but I agree. Any one who can pull of hats like that must know everything there is to know about love.

Also, they have Trots in San Francisco?

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

6th June 2013, 20:05

Also, they have Trots in San Francisco?

Well I know they have Marcyites there if that counts. I think the WWP is bigger in the west while the PSL is bigger in the east

Geiseric

7th June 2013, 05:45

Well I know they have Marcyites there if that counts. I think the WWP is bigger in the west while the PSL is bigger in the east

PSL is really big around here. A local schoolteacher I know it's a member and had a Club where they spewed pro ghadaffi bullshit. It was sad. I don't know who WWP are.

Geiseric

7th June 2013, 05:47

I had to google who that was, but I agree. Any one who can pull of hats like that must know everything there is to know about love.

Also, they have Trots in San Francisco?

The 4th internationals U.S. section is mostly around california with several dozen members. ISO claim to be Trotskyist and have nigh a thousand members.

bcbm

7th June 2013, 08:50

dating is for suckers

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

8th June 2013, 02:29

PSL is really big around here. A local schoolteacher I know it's a member and had a Club where they spewed pro ghadaffi bullshit. It was sad. I don't know who WWP are.

Funny, I think I just discovered a girl in my German class is a PSL type. It's been a long time since I talked to her and I thought I would catch up today so I asked her how she was and she mentioned how she was interested in the Syrian conflict and how she spent the otherday reading every article on google on it, and spent the whole time giving flowery praise to Assad while making some outlandish claim that the opposition has only 10% support. Plus she jokingly referenced an article that refereed to Israel as the "zionist abomination". Not that I am fond of Israel or Assad, but she just looked at me with starry eyes when I mentioned that Assad has shelled entire neighborhoods into the ground for hiding FSA soldiers, and although I think Anti-Zionism within the context of being a person actually oppressed by zionism is progressive, a privileged white first worlder laughing about racist slur hints at a bit of anti-semitism. I didn't ask if she was a communist but since she's from an immigrant Ukrainian family who has an anti-american streak it wouldn't be that far of a stretch to assume that she's been exposed to communist sympathies, and the level of rabid "anti-imperialism" suggests that the Marcyite infection will require an amputation to cure.

And it's a pity that the PSL has such god awful politics and is stuck in the activist mindset, otherwise they'd be a great worker's party.

Tolstoy

8th June 2013, 03:16

Judging by this thread:

it seems several comrades have a confused/befuddled approach to this whole errr. um.. "affair".

Several questions are recurring such as:

and so on.
So I am starting this thread where people can post questions they have about what to do in such and such a situation within which others can chime.

Im not sure whether this or the dating thread on Wrong Planet (Aspergers forum) is going to be more depressing

Devrim

8th June 2013, 05:38

And it's a pity that the PSL has such god awful politics and is stuck in the activist mindset, otherwise they'd be a great worker's party.

And it's a pit that a Big Mac has a disgusting tasting greasy unhealthy bit of 'meat' in the middle of it because otherwise it would be a great healthy delicious vegetarian meal.

Devrim

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

8th June 2013, 18:03

And it's a pit that a Big Mac has a disgusting tasting greasy unhealthy bit of 'meat' in the middle of it because otherwise it would be a great healthy delicious vegetarian meal.

Devrim

Good point, but I was referring to the composition of the party.

They've done a good job in creating a broad working class base, and unlike most parties in the US that are composed of middle class white men, they make an active effort to be representative of the demographics in our country and include minorities and woman in their central committees. Heck I'm almost tempted to say that they might be over-represented. Though that's not a bad thing, just the opposite, since minorities tend to be proletarian more often than Caucasians any real class party should have Caucasians outnumbered if it is to represent the broad working class. So I give them respect in that regard

Anglo-Saxon Philistine

8th June 2013, 18:14

PSL is really big around here. A local schoolteacher I know it's a member and had a Club where they spewed pro ghadaffi bullshit. It was sad. I don't know who WWP are.

Workers World "We Don't Know What an Apostrophe Is" Party, descendants of the Global Class War Tendency of the American SWP, formerly led by Sam Marcy. The PSL split from them. I don't know what their line on Libya is, but they consider the DPR Korea and Vietnam to be socialist. Also did some really good work concerning the promotion of LGBT rights, fighting the Klan etc.

By the way, if you really want to see insane levels of support for Libya and the Ba'ath, try to dig up old issues of the British Newsline. But then again, Libya was a significant sponsor to these people...

Edit: It probably sounds strange that a Trotskyist group would claim that the Soviet Union was a socialist (not just a workers') state, but this was not without precedent. The notorious Pablo often talked about the "socialist character" of the Soviet society, for example. I think he really started playing this aspect of his thought up after he was marginalised within the International Secretariat.

Workers-Control-Over-Prod

9th June 2013, 07:59

So, since I just checked and this is still the dating advice thread, here goes:

Three weeks ago I went to my cousin's wedding. I met one of my cousin's friends who is three or fours years older than me, but I didn't really get to talk with her, with getting prepared, meeting old family members, drinking talking etc. We exchanged glances quite a few times, which I didn't think much of at the time (except a harmless flirt perhaps). The next morning at leaving she came up to me and my cousin's room and nearly squeezed me to death with a hug.

I feel like an idiot that I didn't size up the situation and take the opportunity to get to know her then. To be honest, I cant remember feeling this down about a girl, ever. What makes it worse is that after the first week, I stopped thinking about it a lot, until my cousin came over last week and talked about her.

I might see her at a party at my cousin's next month. But I don't know if I shouldn't just ask my cousin for her number. All this sucks, because she lives an hour's drive away from me in the first place. I don't know what to do, it's driving me fucking crazy. I can't function properly..

Devrim

9th June 2013, 08:28

So, since I just checked and this is still the dating advice thread, here goes:

Back to class composition, seriously if you think that threads on Revleft like this are a good place to look for dating advice, you might well be a long time single

Good point, but I was referring to the composition of the party.

They've done a good job in creating a broad working class base, and unlike most parties in the US that are composed of middle class white men, they make an active effort to be representative of the demographics in our country and include minorities and woman in their central committees. Heck I'm almost tempted to say that they might be over-represented. Though that's not a bad thing, just the opposite, since minorities tend to be proletarian more often than Caucasians any real class party should have Caucasians outnumbered if it is to represent the broad working class. So I give them respect in that regard

Right, I get your point. I don't know anything about their class composition at all. When you talk about their class base are you talking about the membership or the leadership? When you talk about there being women and minorities in the leadership would you describe them as working class?

Devrim

cyu

9th June 2013, 23:34

I don't know if I shouldn't just ask my cousin for her number.

Yep, just do it - or any other way to contact her. It might not work out, either immediately or in the end, but it's good to have anyway. If you can't make long-distance work, you can do the "if we're both still unmarried at 30, let's give it a go" thing =D

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

10th June 2013, 04:03

Right, I get your point. I don't know anything about their class composition at all. When you talk about their class base are you talking about the membership or the leadership? When you talk about there being women and minorities in the leadership would you describe them as working class?

Devrim

They have two public leaders, Peta Linsay and another whose name I can not recall at the moment. Linsay grew up in inner city Philadelphia so while I do not know her exact status within the class, we can at least presume that she has seen poverty first hand if not experienced it. The other is a Taxi driver, I remember seeing a small promotional video for the PSL where he describes his life driving around the bourgeois by day and teaching workers Marxism by night. The other leaders aren't public (which makes sense) but I think that it is fair to say that they have the most influence in the class for a nominally communist party in the USA.

The rest of the PSL people I've interacted with are actual proletarians. Teachers, union workers, ect. I've never meet one that was a student . Now this isn't to say that they don't have students in their ranks, I'm sure they have plenty just like every other Marxist party in the US, but the factth that their proletarian element is clear shows something good about them. Even though they are revisionists, if I had to choose between all of the Communist parties in the US, I'd choose them not on the basis of their politics but on their composition. That's not to say I actually will join them, because doing so would betray my principles.

Doesn't mean that I'll join them, but they are at least worthy of respect and engagement since they actually have working class people in their ranks. As I said before, if they had a good political line and abandoned the activist mindset, they'd be the closest thing to a mass party of the working class we have in the US. Heck go to NYC and you'll always see at least one PSL folk doing something somewhere, which counts for something at least. Unlike old white college professors like the Stalin Society that can be ignored entirely.

Still, doesn't make me forgive them for their politics.

The Feral Underclass

10th June 2013, 10:47

I require dating advice: What is the most appropriate time to wait in the bushes outside someone's house before you go inside and introduce yourself?

Anglo-Saxon Philistine

10th June 2013, 11:03

That depends, are you carrying an ice pick or not?

The Feral Underclass

10th June 2013, 11:05

That's more of a second date thing.

cyu

10th June 2013, 13:01

What is the most appropriate time to wait in the bushes outside someone's house before you go inside and introduce yourself?
After you make her something nice ;)

http://www.gamebreakers.co/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tracy_island_minecraft.jpg

Anglo-Saxon Philistine

10th June 2013, 13:02

That's more of a second date thing.

Anarchist prude.

The Feral Underclass

10th June 2013, 14:13

After you make her something nice ;)

http://www.gamebreakers.co/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tracy_island_minecraft.jpg

Wait, my date's a woman?...

The Feral Underclass

10th June 2013, 14:14

Anarchist prude.

I'm shy! I like to get to know my date before I get all stabby with them

cyu

10th June 2013, 19:28

my date's a woman?...

I went online to try to find one of those new-fangled gender-neutral pronouns.

Gave up =/

The Feral Underclass

10th June 2013, 22:54

This boy only deals in cock.

The Garbage Disposal Unit

13th June 2013, 14:16

This boy only deals in cock.

Which, to be fair, isn't exclusive to men.
I had a friend whom, in expectation of eventually getting vaginoplasty, proceeded to cover her rather nice cock in an array of intimidating piercings. She was just like, "Well, why not?"

Anglo-Saxon Philistine

13th June 2013, 14:27

I went online to try to find one of those new-fangled gender-neutral pronouns.

Gave up =/

I find that "they" works in most circumstances. Some purists have seizures when they see that pronoun used in the singular, but those people also tend to think that infinitives should not be split. Their opinion is irrelevant.

Quail

13th June 2013, 15:14

Which, to be fair, isn't exclusive to men.
I had a friend whom, in expectation of eventually getting vaginoplasty, proceeded to cover her rather nice cock in an array of intimidating piercings. She was just like, "Well, why not?"

Ouch. The thought of cock piercings just makes me cringe and I don't even have a penis.

Quail

14th June 2013, 09:42

To sum up, don't be a pussy, grow some balls, and have fun.

This is a verbal warning for sexist language.

Also FFS there is no such thing as a "friend zone." Loads of people I've ended up getting with have been my friend before the relationship went any further (and remained my friend when it ended). I also find the idea of some guy I just met inviting me up to his room to do shots really fucking creepy, like he's trying to get me drunk enough to fuck him. The whole post above actually reads like it was written by a PUA. Women aren't some homogeneous group of idiots who all fall for arrogant dickheads putting on an act.

cyu

14th June 2013, 10:41

I watched too much KOR in college, and now I imagine what a male version of Madoka Ayukawa would be like, and act like that :lol:

The Feral Underclass

14th June 2013, 11:05

Here's some tips based on my experience. I still get laid four or five days a week, and that's after having broke up with my girlfriend. So pay attention.

1. Stop giving a fuck. The less you give a fuck, the better. If some woman is not interested, forget about it, move on, don't waste another moment of your life. Even if she is interested, don't act as though you are all about her, keep her guessing a little bit. This attitude is, ironically, very attractive to women.

2. Make sure to bust her balls and make fun of her a little bit. This is the easiest way to effectively flirt with a girl, and they love it. It makes you come off as confident and fun. Push her around a little bit, poke fun at her, etc.

3. Use your eyes and smile. Women love a great smile, just make sure its genuine, don't EVER force a smile. Actually have fun, and smile. Make deep eye contact from time to time, but don't overdo it. This helps you come off as confident and mysterious.

4. Look your personal best at all times and in all situations. You never know when or where you may meet someone.

5. Don't be afraid to touch a girl, but don't over do it. Touch her while you are poking fun at her, fake fight with her, give her a quick hug then pull away, etc. Its best to make physical contact and then break it off first.

6. Be able to judge a woman's signals. If she is smiling, making eye contact, laughing, playing with her hair, touching you back, following you around a little bit, etc, then you can be pretty sure she's at least somewhat interested. Also be sure you are able to recognize the "I wanna fuck you" eyes. They are very distinct and recognizable, and are the surest sign that you're in.

7. NEVER follow a girl around constantly. She doesn't need a shadow and it just makes you come off as needy and clingy. Let her go off and do her thing and just hang with your boys. Pay her no mind. If she's interested, she'll be back. If she doesn't come back, forget about her and start talking to another girl.

8. NUMBER 1! You've got to get into a mind state where you don't care. Desperation is the most unattractive quality. Have the mind state that you can get any girl you want, you don't need her, and your just out to have fun. Let this mind state characterize all your actions. Hammer it into your head and make it a part of you.

9. Ok, now say you get a girl back to your house. If you've taken it this far, she's down, but you may still have a slight challenge closing the deal. This is one little trick I use, and its very effective, assuming she smokes weed. Ask her if she wants to smoke, roll up a joint, and say that you can't smoke in the house but you can smoke in your room. Go smoke, and let nature take its course. :thumbup1: (it helps if you have no furniture in your room but the bed)

10. If she doesn't smoke weed, take shots with her in your room. Works the same way.

This strategy may not work for all girls, but it works for the majority of girls you will meet when going out. Remember to never put her on a pedestal, and don't make yourself seem too easy. Its best if there's some doubt in her mind as to whether she can have you. The goal is to present yourself as a fun-loving confident guy, slightly mysterious, with a go-getter attitude. Women love these traits.

Really, once you stop giving a fuck, all the rest of this will start to come natural. I used to get virtually no girls in high school, now I'm pretty much able to get damn near any girl I want. Its not hard, its actually quite fun, and it all comes down to mind state in the end.

These tips are really based on getting a woman in bed. But honestly, the easiest way to get a girlfriend (if that's your thing) is to get a girl in bed. If you don't make things happen early on you may well end up in the friend-zone. If you ever end up there, you have no chance, ever.

Once you have a girlfriend, you can obviously open up more, but don't sacrifice the character traits that attracted her to you in the first place.

To sum up, don't be a pussy, grow some balls, and have fun.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Brutus

14th June 2013, 13:28

^ yup. This is dating advice, not one night stand advice.

The Feral Underclass

14th June 2013, 14:08

Or "how to trick women into having sex with you" advice

Brutus

14th June 2013, 15:56

I think he summed it up best himself:

These tips are really based on getting a woman in bed

The Garbage Disposal Unit

14th June 2013, 20:07

Date Rape Advice =/= Dating Advice

Bostana

14th June 2013, 20:21

Or "how to trick women into having sex with you" advice
Like it matters

The Feral Underclass

15th June 2013, 01:35

Like it matters

Like what matters?

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

15th June 2013, 05:59

I find it a bit problematic that some here seem to think that sex is the end game in a relationship, but I'm asexual so what do I know?

Brutus

15th June 2013, 08:59

I find it a bit problematic that some here seem to think that sex is the end game in a relationship, but I'm asexual so what do I know?

A lot

Ravachol

16th June 2013, 00:45

I love the fact that this thread becomes less (but only slightly) moronic the more off-topic it goes. From 'dating advice' to the workers world party no less!

Bostana

16th June 2013, 01:40

I find it a bit problematic that some here seem to think that sex is the end game in a relationship, but I'm asexual so what do I know?

We have seemed to run into a problem

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist

16th June 2013, 02:04

We have seemed to run into a problem

First you defend a person who said that woman are sex objects, and now my sexuality is a "problem"?

Well then.

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 02:09

We have seemed to run into a problem

Why are you being such a fucking prick?

Bostana

16th June 2013, 02:12

Why are you being such a fucking prick?

Man fuck you.
You know what I meant. I wasn't saying his sexuality is a problem

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 02:14

Man fuck you.
You know what I meant. I wasn't saying his sexuality is a problem

Erm, evidently no one knows what you meant...

Vanilla

16th June 2013, 02:35

The Garbage Disposal Unit

16th June 2013, 04:17

I think the best dating advice a guy can have is that you should never wear a fedora under any circumstances. You are going to look like a grade-A jerk if you wear one. Also men who wear fedoras all seem to be under the belief that women only like assholes and that they are nice guys.

It isn't attractive.

Yeah, "I'm such a nice guy" is the worst/weirdest corollary to deep-seated misogyny. "I'm such a nice guy, therefore it follows that any woman who won't fuck me is a superficial *****."

See also, dudes who bust out "I'm a feminist too, but . . ."

cyu

16th June 2013, 06:56

http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2011/03/Fedora-Guys-Poster.jpg

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 09:32

^ Most of those hats are trilbies.

Brutus

16th June 2013, 09:41

We have seemed to run into a problem
Here you say his sexuality is a problem

Man fuck you.
You know what I meant. I wasn't saying his sexuality is a problem
Here you use vulgar language and get annoyed at TAT, saying we all know what you meant.

Like it matters
And here you seem to defend a man who has written something with the sole intention of it being used as a sort of manual for one night stands.

Are you going to explain yourself or reply with more rhetorical questions and ambiguous statements.

Bostana

16th June 2013, 16:06

Here you say his sexuality is a problem .

I wasn'y refering to his sexuality I was just saying in general we ran into a problem.

Here you use vulgar language and get annoyed at TAT, saying we all know what you meant.
Yeah because he called me a prick

And here you seem to defend a man who has written something with the sole intention of it being used as a sort of manual for one night stands.
I was saying like it matters to any guy on revelft weather it's a one night stand or a long term relationship.

Am I still on trial? Or can you all understand what I say now?

Brutus

16th June 2013, 16:35

I wasn't refering to his sexuality I was just saying in general we ran into a problem.
And how have we ran into a problem, pray tell?

I was saying like it matters to any guy on revelft weather it's a one night stand or a long term relationship.
It matters for me, and I presume it does for many others.

Am I still on trial?
You chose to answer my questions, you weren't forced or coerced to.

Bostana

16th June 2013, 16:51

And how have we ran into a problem, pray tell?
I don't understand?

It matters for me, and I presume it does for many others.
Yeah that's why, as I explained to Anarchist tension, t was a joke. I am sure some of you do.

You chose to answer my questions, you weren't forced or coerced to.
*sigh* It was a figure of speech comrade. You don't have to respond to each one of my sentences with some sort of rebuttal

cyu

16th June 2013, 17:43

^ Most of those hats are trilbies.

Damn you, foiled again!!!! :cursing:

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 22:10

I wasn'y refering to his sexuality I was just saying in general we ran into a problem.

Yeah because he called me a prick

I was saying like it matters to any guy on revelft weather it's a one night stand or a long term relationship.

Am I still on trial? Or can you all understand what I say now?

What you said was ill-judged. Your intent is irrelevant to that. What you should be doing is accepting you misjudged the situation and shouldn't have made the joke and apologise.

Instead you are acting out as if we're in the wrong.

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 22:59

At the end of the day it's not cool to make jokes that imply a woman's agency is irrelevant. It's just not funny.

I said "Or "how to trick women into having sex with you" advice" and you replied "like it matters."

If you can't see how offensive that might be, then I'm not sure what more can be said to you.

Bostana

16th June 2013, 23:05

I said "Or "how to trick women into having sex with you" advice" and you replied "like it matters."

...to the men on revleft. I've been over this, why are you just waving it off like i didn't even say it to you?

Again selective hearing (or reading) I mean goddamn dude, you're not always right. Try to swallow the fact that you misunderstood an were wrong

Quail

16th June 2013, 23:32

...to the men on revleft. I've been over this, why are you just waving it off like i didn't even say it to you?

Again selective hearing (or reading) I mean goddamn dude, you're not always right. Try to swallow the fact that you misunderstood an were wrong

Right, so your intention was "like it matters to the guys on revleft who will never come in contact with women anyway"? It's not at all implausible for that particular comment to be misread as "like it matters if you have to trick someone into consenting to sex" so I think really you should think before you post. Remember that on the internet, people don't have body language or tone to help them interpret what you meant to say, so if you post something that is ambiguous and could be offensive if misunderstood, there is a good chance you will unintentionally come across as being offensive. Judging by the responses in the thread, most people took what you said the wrong way, so that would tend to indicate poor communication on your part.

The Feral Underclass

16th June 2013, 23:45

...to the men on revleft. I've been over this, why are you just waving it off like i didn't even say it to you?

It doesn't matter to the men on revleft whether they are tricking women into bed, because they won't get a woman anyway? I don't understand why you think that's any better or why it would justify your joke...The fact is, your joke structurally implied that at some point, whether it was Revleft men or some other men, that it was okay for them to trick women -- you passively accepted the premise of the person's views. You certainly didn't reject them, did you? Which was the only appropriate response. Making a joke was not. Whatever meaning.

That is what you did. Whether you think you did or not is absolutely fucking irrelevant. It is what happened.

Again selective hearing (or reading) I mean goddamn dude, you're not always right. Try to swallow the fact that you misunderstood an were wrong

Misunderstood what, exactly? There was nothing to misunderstand.

And No. I am certainly not always right. On this, however, I am.

Bostana

16th June 2013, 23:59

It doesn't matter to the men on revleft whether they are tricking women into bed, because they won't get a woman anyway?
That's not what I said and since you obviously got that from Quail looks like I have to highlight what I said to you on my profile

I was just saying how revleft men probably don't care about creating a relationship but prefer having sex instead
Yeah remember??? Did you bother to read this? can you comprehend?

You certainly didn't reject them, did you? Which was the only appropriate response.
Yes, yes sir, I did. Over and Over, but you waved it off or something because you keep repeating the same thing over and over in different ways.

And while were on that I can only say the same thing over and over. I don't know how else to explain it to you because you're no matter what I say you'll stay the same. I'm done before this escalates.

The Feral Underclass

17th June 2013, 00:18

That's not what I said and since you obviously got that from Quail looks like I have to highlight what I said to you on my profile

Yeah remember??? Did you bother to read this? can you comprehend?

Jesus fucking Christ. What is wrong with you? Stop trying to tell me what you meant by the joke. It doesn't matter what you meant. It simply just does not matter.

Whether you meant what Quail said or whether you meant what I thought you meant, or whether all you meant was "revleft men probably don't care about creating a relationship but prefer having sex instead," you still passively accepted the premise of the person's views. Your joke legitimated the misogyny in the original comments. It implied, whether you meant it to or not, that there was a situation in which it was okay to trick women into having sex.

I cannot explain this to you any clearer than I have already. Now you can tell me it was a joke or what the joke meant or that you don't think your joke was that bad over and over again, it isn't going to alter the fact that your joke was a) offensive b) inappropriate and c) legitimising misogyny.

Yes, yes sir, I did. Over and Over, but you waved it off or something because you keep repeating the same thing over and over in different ways.

I have been back over the conversation on our profile walls and in this thead and no where do you reject the original comments or apologise for the inappropriate nature of your joke -- you certainly don't accept why your joke was inappropriate.

All you have done is try and defend yourself by justifying your joke, calling me a moral teacher, getting on your high horse and telling people they are misunderstanding you.

There is nothing that you have done in any of this that would show that you are understanding the offence that you have caused, why your joke was inappropriate, why you shouldn't have said it, nor have you rejected the actual comments that were originally made.

What you have demonstrated is that you think it's okay to make a joke about removing the agency of women to decide who they have sex with, defended why your joke was legitimate and refused to accept responsibility for it.