Scotlands Daily Record

[celticsocialist]

After remarks made by David Blunkett, the home secretary, Scotlands moral champion the Daily Record today stated that immigrants to Britain should make an effort to be more British and learn the queens english. It then went on with a fairy story of how the Scots are famous for "making good" abroad and being more Scottish than the are at home.
Unfortunately it is probably right as I know plenty of Scots who,in true British fashion, have went abroad and never learned any of the countries language they live in other than how to say beer and chips.
The sad thing is that this paper is read by the majority of Scots and even worse, many believe whatever it tells them. Because of this comic there are people in Scotland who still believe that labour are standing up for the working man.
I read someones copy at work today as i have not bought this paper for many years. It is also running a completely bigotted anti english campaign in the run up to the World Cup. Its only a bit of fun so they say,but if an English paper ran a similar campaign about Scotland the Record would be up in arms. (although Scotland would have to qualify for that to happen)
There is nothing better than a tabloid for good old fashioned double standards.

[Capitalist]

I am 1/2 Irish and 100% American

What exactly are you *****ing about? I'm very ignorant on United Kingdom Affairs.

What are you advocating when you say "Scotland out of Britain.Britain out of Ireland "

I am interested in learning more about your point of view on Irish/Scottish/ British affairs.

[Moskitto]

I'm English

In the 18th Century a rebellion against the monarchy took place. Afterwards the British began sending their supporters away from the highlands so they settled in Ireland.

Now there's 2 communities in Ireland, Protestants and Catholics

After Ireland gained independance, the British stayed in the north.

Basically the UK is the island of Britain plus the northern part of Ireland. Irish Nationalists say that the whole island is really theirs (and I would have to agree with them) Yet the Unionists say that it isn't.

The Unionists are genrally marching along their "traditional routes" when these "traditional routes" change every 30 years or so and just happen to go through the Catholic (Nationalist) estates.

Nationalists also have some pretty nasty terrorist groups. The main one is the Real IRA but they've been pushed out of the spotlight by the war on terrorism.

[Capitalist]

The IRA???

I think the Irish went about it all wrong. They should have used Gahndi's tactic of civil disobedience instead of terrorism.

However - The IRA was around well before Gahndi's time. Terrorism was all they had to fight with.

Yesterday - The British treated Ireland horribly.

Today - the British seem to treat the Irish with more respect. British Police Officers protect Catholic Irish School Girls from a Protesant British Mob.

I have never agreed with the IRA's recent support for terrorism or their love for Castro's revolution. Terrorism just breeds revenge.

I think the IRA has become more rotten over time.

If you think about it - Irish, English, Scottish (outside of Religion and Royalty) they are basically all the same people. They should be united.

The problem is Religion and the Royal Family.

I don't like monarchies. Royalty is a hinderance to democracy. True leaders aren't born with divine right to leadership.

What do you think about Michael Collins?

Was he a terrorist or a revolutionary?

[Kez]

VIVA IRA

comrade kamo

[CommieBastard]

National boundaries are a nonsense, to fight in the name of nations is a nonsense.
The only true fight can be a political one.
To say that the people of ireland deserve any one area is a complete fabrication, as are all national boundaries. They are all invented, all in the mind.
you may as well put national boundaries wherever you choose, like Hitler did.
Nationalism is a big load of fucked up nonsense, as are exclusive nations.
The only justification for boundaries can be on a political basis, i.e. you split two groups of people into two different areas, each which has their own governance, because they beleive in different systems of governance. But, you would always still have to recognise that any boundaries would then be invented, and based on the locations of population, no one group would have any 'right' to any particular set of land.

i just simply cannot in the slightest comprehend why people seem to put such faith in these ridicuolous boundaries, a load of fucking nonsense if ever i saw some...

[Kez]

People in the UK dont know jack shit about nationalism and the important of boundries, until the day when we have the commintern, and an international we need borders to protect ideologies and beliefs

comrade kamo

[libereco]

i for one don't think we need any borders at all.....

[jimr]

Im from Aberdeen, Scotland and I must say i have had to overcome an almost racist stance towards England. Mainly from learning about History, but more likely from watching my parents boo England at the pub when i was younger.

As for the Ireland situation, I don't believe that the IRA are justified in bombings such as Omha, but to be fair I must say i have sympathies for them. It is the same with most terrorist organisations. I don't agree with their methods but most of the time, regardless of the way the persue it, their complaint is valid. Just look at the Basque area in Spain.

Heres where i think the world fails in dealling with terrorism, they deal with the terrorists instead of teh cause of terrorism. Terrorism occurs when something is so dire, that extremists are able to influence moderates and rationalise killings.

[Moskitto]

the IRA were trying to dissarm

It's the Real IRA who are bad. They call themselves the IRA now because they think the IRA is too soft.

[jimr]

I know, however, whenever i seem to say that i am cut down as being "brainwashed by those bastards"

apparently i am very gulable and the rIRA are simply the IRA in different clothes.

also i was reading about Rosa Luxemborg in History the other day. We a were doing te Weimar Republic. Im really intrested in her, do you know of any good bios or information sites?

(Edited by jimr at 10:19 pm on Dec. 11, 2001)

[Son of Scargill]

Celticsocialist,we get the Daily Record at my workplace,and I agree,it's utter,utter shite.The Mirror with a kilt and bagpipes.No use to man nor beast(unless you're caught short whilst out on the moors).

(Edited by Son of Scargill at 9:35 am on Dec. 12, 2001)

[celticsocialist]

Jimr, I can assure you there is a difference between the Real IRA and the Provos.
As Capitalist suggests, I sometimes think that the Republicans may have been better off sticking with a non violent approach as they are now made out to be the bad guys. People forget that the British army were put in place in Ulster to protect the Irish community from the Loyalists, not the other way about.

Scargill, we nearly done it against Valencia. Fucking heartbreaking mate!!

[jimr]

just in case you hadnt known it, i was being sarcastic. But yes you are right ofcourse.

[Son of Scargill]

Celticsocialist,I was at work when I heard they were at sudden death penalties......I prayed,but God must have sussed that I'm an atheist.At least they stuffed Rangers eh!

[Guest]

Arent we all people, so what makes a certain group of people so great that they should be united, we should all be united,

[peaccenicked]

guest
there is a difference between a bad peace
and a good fight.
Shouldn't we want peace with justice.
The daily record tries to keep a bad class peace.