What are your favourite heroes in history!

[TheWannabeAnarchist]

I asked it above, you answer it below:laugh:

[Djoko]

Karl Marx

[Lenin1986]

Marx, Engels, Che, Lenin, Trotsky, James Connolly, seamus costello, patsy o hara and brendan hughes to name just a few off the top of my head.

[Lenin1986]

i have to put in holger meins to

[Nevsky]

Spartacus, Saladin, Frederick the Second of the Holy Roman Empire, Jeanne d'Arc, Leonardo da Vinci, René Descartes, Robespierre, Goethe, Simón Bolívar, Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, Pietro Mascagni, James Connolly, Nicola Sacco & Bartolomeo Vanzetti, Lenin, Stalin, Sergei Eisenstein, Rosa Luxemburg, Mao, Che Guevara. Heroic may not be the most adequate term for some of them but they were all important in different ways and mean something for me.

[Ele'ill]

none within the context of the question but there are friends and people at work who I think have done pretty awesome things

[TheEmancipator]

Spartacus as a symbol. Otherwise I believe that History shapes individuals as much if not much more than individuals shape History.

[Orange Juche]

Not so much history as present, but Laura Jane Grace.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Big Bill Haywood.

[Zostrianos]

The emperor Julian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_%28emperor%29), Proclus, Mazdak, Raud the Strong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raud_the_Strong), Karl Marx, Rosa Luxemburgh, George Carlin, Noam Chomsky

[Kalinin's Facial Hair]

Not 'heroes', but people I admire somehow.

Dzerzhinsky is a must. Some compatriots such as Prestes, Astrojildo Pereira, Octávio Brandão and (I blame Deutscher for that) Trotsky. I don't even am well-versed on his writings, but the man appeals to me.

[Bronco]

Don't really have heroes but there were some great characters in the English Civil War years; Edward Sexby, Abiezer Coppe, & Lawrence Clarkson in particular

[#FF0000]

Oof that's a tough one. John Brown springs to mind right away, though.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Eugene Debs and Emma Goldman

[Skyhilist]

Spiderman

[Jimmie Higgins]

Xena Warrior Princess

and Malcolm X

[Dropdead]

Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Che Guevara, Leonardo da Vinci, Hoxha

[Brutus]

Spartacus, Trotsky, Durruti, Dzerzhinsky, Robespierre, James P Cannon

[Tim Cornelis]

Anteo Zamboni

[Althusser]

Apart from the main players, I've been reading about Enver Hoxha and İbrahim Kaypakkaya. They were the shit.

[Brutus]

i have to put in holger meins to

Agreed

[juljd]

The political figures I have a positive view of/like/admire are Subcomandante Marcos, Marx, Engels, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Kropotkin, Bakunin, Emma Goldman, Rosa Luxemburg, Joe Hill. I admire the CNT-FAI, the Cuban people's unity and resistance after the revolution, the Black Panthers' work for the poor (like the breakfast programs), the Zapatistas, among others.

It's important that admiration doesn't turn into personality cult or elitism though, one should not forget that the most important is the working class as a whole.

[TheWannabeAnarchist]

Excellent point, comrade.:laugh:

[Luís Henrique]

There are no heroes in History.

Luís Henrique

[Ismail]

There are no heroes in History.

Luís HenriqueAhem...

Ludwig: Marxism denies that the individual plays an outstanding role in history. Do you not see a contradiction between the materialist conception of history and the fact that, after all, you admit the outstanding role played by historical personages?

Stalin: No, there is no contradiction here. Marxism does not at all deny the role played by outstanding individuals or that history is made by people. In Marx's The Poverty of Philosophy and in other works of his you will find it stated that it is people who make history. But, of course, people do not make history according to the promptings of their imagination or as some fancy strikes them. Every new generation encounters definite conditions already existing, ready-made when that generation was born. And great people are worth anything at all only to the extent that they are able correctly to understand these conditions, to understand how to change them. If they fail to understand these conditions and want to alter them according to the promptings of their imagination, they will land themselves in the situation of Don Quixote. Thus it is precisely Marx's view that people must not be counterposed to conditions. It is people who make history, but they do so only to the extent that they correctly understand the conditions that they have found ready-made, and only to the extent that they understand how to change those conditions. That, at least, is how we Russian Bolsheviks understand Marx. And we have been studying Marx for a good many years.

[Goblin]

Lenin and Trotsky. Not very original, i know...

[Klaatu]

Galileo, Leonardo daVinci, Issac Newton, Karl Frederich Gauss, Louis Pasteur, Einstein

[Ele'ill]

Carmen Sandiego

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

I'm also quite fond of Thomas Paine. Something of a proto-socialist in a way, and his works are amongst the finest revolutionary writing in the English language.

I like Lenin up until a certain point (right up to around the time after the first assassination attempt seems to be where things started going south).

Although I like Joe Hill, in truth the only reason he became famous was due to his martyrdom. He was a cool guy, nonetheless.

Mother Jones was also pretty awesome. To think that such a charming, school-marmish old woman was once considered the most dangerous woman in America says alot about how simple ideas can be more powerful than weapons.

Helen Keller is also pretty cool. I always found it funny how she was always praised for overcoming her disabilities, yet when she openly discussed her socialist ideas her opinions were immediately disreguarded due to the very disabilities they had commended her for overcoming!

Also Emma Goldman, simply due to her uncompromising belief in the importance of fun in the socialist movement. Always remember: Socialism isn't worth it if one can't be allowed a good time.

And again, I like Big Bill Haywood. Labor agitator, strike coordinatior, advocate of racial equality, unashamed radical, and all-around American ass kicker. We desperately need people like him in the labor movement again.

[John Lennin]

Rudi Dutschke, Ulrike Meinhof, Benno Ohnesorg

[Rafiq]

Rudi Dutschke, Ulrike Meinhof, Benno Ohnesorg

I can see how *you* find them somewhat admirable, but of all of history? Really?

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[John Lennin]

I can see how *you* find them somewhat admirable, but of all of history? Really?

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Just the first three that came to my mind. The whole list would be endless.
But I see your point, so here are some more:
Karl Liebknecht, Rosa Luxemburg, Gustav Landauer, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X,

[bcbm]

diogenes

[Dr Doom]

Smilin' Sid Hatfield

[Vanguard1917]

Here are some of mine

http://quotationsbook.com/assets/shared/img/7307/LeninTrotskyAndRedArmy.jpg

Yes, I'm a walking cliché.

[Geiseric]

Here are some of mine

http://quotationsbook.com/assets/shared/img/7307/LeninTrotskyAndRedArmy.jpg

Yes, I'm a walking cliché.

If i had any of those hats i would wear it every day. Those guys were cool. So was most of comintern. Too bad stalin killed most of them.

[Brutus]

What's Trotsky doing with his left hand?

[Goblin]

What's Trotsky doing with his left hand?
Scratching his balls. Or maybe it's some sort of a Freemason pose.

#Illuminati

[Goblin]

Sigmund Freud did alot of good for psychology, so he's definately a hero. Same goes for his student Carl Jung.

The norwegian viking Kalv Arnesson is a hero for killing St. Olav. As the name implies, Olav would later become a norwegian catholic saint, which sucks. Im not against christianity or anything, but Olav would force norwegians to convert to catholicism. If they refused, they would get executed.

There are also some artists that i would consider to be heroes. Painters like Vincent Van Gogh, Edvard Munch, Diego Rivera and Theodor Kittelsen all made some great contributions. And authors and poets like Mark Twain, Knut Hamsun, Henrik Wergeland, Emily Dickinson and Henrik Ibsen.

[Anti-White]

Colin Ferguson, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Ndweke Abbadah

See a pattern?

[TheEmancipator]

diogenes

Even though he was a primitivist, he had swag.

[Zaza]

Marx & Engels, Che, Lenin, Atatürk, Pir Sultan Abdal, Hugo Chavez and even if he is not dead yet ( thankfully ) Levent Kirca.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Moved to non-political - Rusty Shackleford

[Vanguard1917]

Marx & Engels, Che, Lenin, Atatürk

Didn't Mustapha Kemal wipe out the leadership of the Turkish communist party in the early '20s?

[Rafiq]

Didn't Mustapha Kemal wipe out the leadership of the Turkish communist party in the early '20s?

Yes. His avatar is also the son of a man who liquidated the relavence of communism in syria.

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[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Spartacus, Michele de Lando, Florian Geyer, Toussaint L'Ouverture, Maximilien Robespierre, Louis-Antoine Saint-Just, Jean-Paul Marat, François Hanriot, Giuseppe Garibaldi, Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, Auguste Blanqui, Gracchus Babeuf, August Bebel, Karl Liebknecht, Rosa Luxembourg, Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, Yakov Severdlov, Felix Dzerzhinsky, and others...

[Ismail]

Didn't Mustapha Kemal wipe out the leadership of the Turkish communist party in the early '20s?And yet Atatürk also helped out Trotsky. As Trotsky himself recalled (http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/bio/sternberg.htm) in conversations with a sympathizer:

‘But weren’t you imprisoned in Turkey?’ I asked him. ‘Didn’t Stalin request it when he had you deported?’ ‘Oh yes, Stalin requested it’, Trotsky answered, ‘but Kemal Pasha refused to comply.’

‘Why?’ I asked.

‘When Turkey was fighting Greece in the war I helped him with the Red Army. Fellow-soldiers don’t forget such things. That was why Kemal Pasha didn’t lock me up in spite of pressure from Stalin.’It may seem surprising, but Soviet Russia's greatest practical allies early on were Atatürk, Iranian bourgeois-democratic circles, and Afghanistan's anti-British ruler Amanullah Khan. Lenin sought good relations with all three. The 1970's Great Soviet Encyclopedia sums up Atatürk like so: "On Atatürk’s initiative, the sultanate was abolished on Nov. 1, 1922, and on Oct. 29, 1923, Turkey was declared a republic. The caliphate was eliminated on Mar. 3, 1924, and a number of progressive reforms of a bourgeois and national character were introduced in the areas of government and administrative structure, justice, culture, and mode of life. The People’s Party (after 1924, the Republican People’s Party), which Atatürk established in 1923 on the base of the Leagues for the Defense of Rights and of which Atatürk became lifetime chairman, opposed the reactionary attempts of feudal-clerical and comprador circles. In the area of foreign affairs, Atatürk aspired to maintain a friendly relationship between Turkey and Soviet Russia, which had rendered disinterested aid to the Turkish people in the years of their struggle against the imperialists and later during the development of their national economy."

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

That said, Kemal-pasha was also responsible for the massacres of the Armenian and Greek population in the border areas of the new Turkish republic. He sometimes claimed to be a "socialist", but this "socialism" was little more than economic etatism and a commitment to industrial progress. In the end, he was perhaps the last of the great bourgeois nationalist revolutionaries, but he was a multifaceted and complex figure, and not quite a hero.

(But then again, I listed Garibaldi, so what do I know?)

[Paul Pott]

That one Greek riot dog.

What, no one said only humans.

[Zaza]

That said, Kemal-pasha was also responsible for the massacres of the Armenian and Greek population in the border areas of the new Turkish republic. He sometimes claimed to be a "socialist", but this "socialism" was little more than economic etatism and a commitment to industrial progress. In the end, he was perhaps the last of the great bourgeois nationalist revolutionaries, but he was a multifaceted and complex figure, and not quite a hero.

(But then again, I listed Garibaldi, so what do I know?)

People say that Atatürk even did an ethnocide on my people, the Alevis.
However, I see things a bit different in this topic.

But he was indeed a hero for me because he brang secularism and freed the country. Also crushed the last remaining militant pro-ottomans.