elderly french fascist offs himself in NotreDame over gay marriage legalisation

[Sasha]

sucks big time for the people who had to watch it, nice that the piece of filth started with himself instead of first taking down others for a change:


BREAKING: Far-Right Catholic Activist Commits Suicide in Notre Dame Cathedral Over Same-Sex Marriage


http://www.johnmbecker.com/content/uploads/2013/05/notre_dame_cathedral-224x300.jpg (http://www.johnmbecker.com/2013/05/21/breaking-far-right-catholic-activist-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-cathedral-over-same-sex-marriage/notre_dame_cathedral/)According (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328502/Dominique-Venner-Right-wing-historian-shoots-Notre-Dame-cathedral-protest-gay-marriage.html) to (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/21/man-shoots-himself-inside-notre-dame-cathedral_n_3313062.html?utm_hp_ref=uk) multiple (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22614994) sources (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/notre-dame-cathedral-in-paris-evacuated-after-suicide-inside/article12037246/), the iconic cathedral of Notre Dame de Paris was evacuated today (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/farright-french-historian-78yearold-dominique-venner-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-in-protest-against-gay-marriage-8625877.html) after a far-right Catholic activist went to the altar and shot himself in the mouth. The suicide, which was witnessed by hundreds of tourists, appears to have been a protest against same-sex marriage.
The UK’s Daily Mail reports (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328502/Dominique-Venner-Right-wing-historian-shoots-Notre-Dame-cathedral-protest-gay-marriage.html):

The Cathedral was full of visitors when the horrific incident took place, at around 4pm.
‘There was screaming and lot so shouting following a loud bang,’ said one witness. ‘People were naturally very scared and began to run out in panic.
‘Police and other emergency workers including firemen got here very quickly, and then the whole cathedral was evacuated.’
Dominique Venner, age 78, was a well-known essayist and a former member of a paramilitary group known as the Secret Army Organization (OAS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_de_l%27arm%C3%A9e_secr%C3%A8te)), which waged a bombing and assassination campaign in the early 1960s to protest France giving Algeria its independence.
http://www.johnmbecker.com/content/uploads/2013/05/dominique_venner.jpg (http://www.johnmbecker.com/2013/05/21/breaking-far-right-catholic-activist-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-cathedral-over-same-sex-marriage/dominique_venner/)Mr. Venner was also close to the anti-marriage equality movement and an outspoken critic of France’s new marriage equality law (http://www.johnmbecker.com/tag/france/), which President François Hollande signed on Saturday. He made no verbal statement before he shot himself, but a letter was found on his person. The contents of Mr. Venner’s letter have not yet been released.
However, just before killing himself, Venner published a disturbing post (http://www.dominiquevenner.fr/2013/05/la-manif-du-26-mai-et-heidegger/) on his blog today in which he gave a scathing critique of marriage equality and may have alluded (http://www.europe1.fr/Faits-divers/Notre-Dame-de-Paris-suicide-d-un-anti-mariage-gay-1524647/) to (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328502/Dominique-Venner-Right-wing-historian-shoots-Notre-Dame-cathedral-protest-gay-marriage.html) his suicidal intentions:

[Preventing marriage equality] certainly will require new, spectacular, and symbolic actions to wake up the sleep walkers, shake the anaesthetized consciousness, and awaken the memory of our origins. We are entering a time when words must be authenticated by acts…
It is here and now that our destiny is played until the final second. And this final second has as much importance as the rest of a life. That is why we need to be ourselves until the very last instant.
It seems that Mr. Venner chose to end his life so that he wouldn’t have to live to see the day when loving and committed same-sex couples in France are able to marry. What a tragedy, that others’ happiness would make this man want to die.
How profoundly sad. Mr. Venner’s family has my sympathies.


http://www.johnmbecker.com/2013/05/21/breaking-far-right-catholic-activist-commits-suicide-in-notre-dame-cathedral-over-same-sex-marriage/

i must say that article ^ is way to sympathetic, i would gladly piss on his bigot fascist terrorist grave....

[Per Levy]

well good and bad, good that this guy is dead, bad that probally children and a lot of other people had to watch it. seriously though, if same sex marriage was such a problem for him that he killed himself over it, he didnt had much problems it seems. also this action wont "wake up the sleep walkers", it will probally disgust the majority more then anything.

[GPDP]

Somehow, I don't think he thought his cunning plan all the way through. Especially since suicide is a sin.

[Sasha]

not if you martyr yourself...

[Lokomotive293]

I never get why fascists are so fond of killing themselves in public in order to make a political statement (I remember how about 15 years ago, over here some Nazi burned himself in order to protest against the "leftist, anti-German state" or whatever), but as long as they don't hurt anyone else, I hope all of them do that.

[GPDP]

not if you martyr yourself...

Well, one can only wonder if this act will inspire his ilk to follow his path.

[Le Socialiste]

Fantastic - too bad others had to watch him go.

[Broviet Union]

Good times.

[GerrardWinstanley]

I don't know if the irony was intentional (fascists don't usually do irony, even French ones), but the funny thing about all of this (apart from a dead fascist) is that despite being a militant gay-basher, the circumstances of his passing bears an uncanny similarity to Japanese gay ultraroyalist Yukio Mishima committing seppuku after a failed coup attempt and has led to media speculation it might have been an homage.

What an enticing precedent this sets though. Each and every time a country legalises marriage equality, a fascist might end their life. If it wasn't a no-brainer before, it certainly is now (pardon the expression).

[Lenina Rosenweg]

A bit of perhaps unintentional irony-since he suicided he will not be buried in a Catholic cemetery.Was he some sort of nominal "cultural Catholic"?

[Paul Pott]

Follow your leader!

[Fourth Internationalist]

Phew I thought it was our job to stop the fascists. Turns out they'll do it for us. :D

[Princess Luna]

Good riddance! If he really wanted to make a point however, he should have gone with self-immolation.

[evermilion]

I can't live in a world where two men or two women have the right to begin families!

Seriously, though, I shouldn't have been as surprised as I was that everybody already beat me to "good riddance."

[Goblin]

Good night sweet prince...

[Brutus]

If only Weimar had thought of this...

[Yugo45]

So, he killed himself because he didn't like the idea of non-heterosexuals getting married? Seriously? What sort of person do you have to be to do something like that? And I thought those Tibetans that go around setting themselves on fire every now and then were irrational.. This guy is even worse..

Oh yeah, and good riddance.

[Red Commissar]

And nothing of value was lost.

[RedAnarchist]

Prick was in the OAS, so he's a sick bastard even before we get to his shitty politics. Fuck him.

[Bardo]

My first thought was the daydream that fascists would start following his example and killing themselves en masse.

[RedAnarchist]

Personally, I would rather see them be educated and realise how stupid their politics are, then they are alive and can give the world an idea of just how irrational and useless fascism is.

[Asmo]

It's quite sad that he valued his hatred more than his own life. It's not unusual for his ideology though.

[RedAnarchist]

It's quite sad that he valued his hatred more than his own life. It's not unusual for his ideology though.

He's the kind of person who would die for some arbitrary ideal such as a nation or a race, not realising that nations and races are nothing more than divisions that keep human beings apart.

[Craig_J]

I never get why fascists are so fond of killing themselves in public in order to make a political statement (I remember how about 15 years ago, over here some Nazi burned himself in order to protest against the "leftist, anti-German state" or whatever), but as long as they don't hurt anyone else, I hope all of them do that.

If you're a fascist and twisted enough to hold those kind of beliefs, I guess you're twisted enough to justify any kind of warped logic in your own mind.

[AynRand]

Sure is edgy ITT.

[Rusakov]

Unsurprisingly, I find it hard to feel even slightly sad about this death, apart from about how it was done. Yet, this person was insignificant, as is his death.

[Doflamingo]

I guess this marriage equality law was mind-blowing for him.

(Sorry for the bad pun)

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

...it's harsh and not fair on his family and friends to thinks this, but because of his ideas, his actions and his politics...could care less / good riddance.

[The Feral Underclass]

not if you martyr yourself...

Are you sure this is true?

[BIXX]

I find this... pleasing.

Honestly, I feel bad for the witnesses, but I feel no sadness for his death. I hope the rest lose their mind in a similar fashion.

[Sasha]

Are you sure this is true?

dont know, even if not some theologists could prob twist it like that, after all, what is the difference with refusing to surrender or convert while knowing that will mean a dead sentence and actually killing yourself to preserve gods divine rule.

[Leftsolidarity]

dont know, even if not some theologists could prob twist it like that, after all, what is the difference with refusing to surrender or convert while knowing that will mean a dead sentence and actually killing yourself to preserve gods divine rule.

Yeah, this is way off topic but in their stories Jesus knew he would be killed for doing what he did and never tried to stop it and followed through with all that torture and dying stuff. So I think the martyr thing is correct.

[The Feral Underclass]

dont know, even if not some theologists could prob twist it like that, after all, what is the difference with refusing to surrender or convert while knowing that will mean a dead sentence and actually killing yourself to preserve gods divine rule.

Well the difference would be that you used to your own free will to defy God's creation rather than being the victim of someone else's free will; free will being the fundamental basis for all sin. You're not judged on the basis of other people's attacks on God, you're only judged for your own actions.

Committing suicide is one of the most serious of sins and since you can't repent and find absolution (because you're dead), you will go straight to hell.

[Dropdead]

Hopefully more fascists will follow.

[UnderTheSun]

Committing suicide is one of the most serious of sins and since you can't repent and find absolution (because you're dead), you will go straight to hell.
Or purgatory, depending on your particular Christian theology

[The Feral Underclass]

Or purgatory, depending on your particular Christian theology

Really? Well this guy's a Catholic and those guys don't mess around.

[Hit The North]

Shame it wasn't a mass suicide :grin:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

The situation is really heating up in France, it looks. Hollende and the marriage equality bill is the catalyst for the class struggle heating up: this is seen through the murder of that young revolutionary. I hope French comrades are ready for a struggle because I doubt things are going to suddenly cool off permanently.

[Domela Nieuwenhuis]

The situation is really heating up in France, it looks. Hollende and the marriage equality bill is the catalyst for the class struggle heating up: this is seen through the murder of that young revolutionary. I hope French comrades are ready for a struggle because I doubt things are going to suddenly cool off permanently.

And here in Holland Liberal, libertarian and other anti-left bloggers are already building up a total anti-left-discussion. Questions like "are we next" and comments like "Greece and France prove that socialism doesn't work" or "Erdogan is socialist and look where that got them" (Don't know where the demonstraters are supposed to stand then :laugh:)

Saddest thing is: the news about the killed comrade you mentioned in your other post is nowhere to be found in the Dutch news.
If Geert Wilders farts, Dutch media are all over it and when it comes to bringing actual news they only bring the anti-left parts.

For instance: "Swedish youth destroy Stockholm" > Noone here knows why, only that they are evil for destructions and luting.
Or: "Turkish people are demonstrating against Erdogan" > Had to explain four times already what the actual cause was.
And of course: "French activists are rioting" > Noone mentions that they were attacked by Nationalists.

Fuck the Dutch Bourgious-news. :sneaky: