The (your) deepest reason to be a communist

[garrus]

If you are a communist, you *have* to make pre-suppositions in order to justify your choice.

From a humanist point of view, it's the only way to establish justice,sustinence and a good life for every person.

From a scientific one, it's the system that allows science to blast ahead at full speed.

One could argue (and has) that these are side effects of an objective, irreducible reason for one to be a communist.Do you agree with that and why?

[Q]

I want to live in a world where I'm happy and my children, family and friends will be happy.

And, given my class interests, that logically leads to being a communist.

[Questionable]

Because I want to know the truth about this confusing, contradictory world we live in, and Marxism has gotten me closer to that truth than anything else so far.

[Kalinin's Facial Hair]

"Socialism or Barbarism... If we are lucky".

[Fourth Internationalist]

I think it's the only morally correct system. It ends all oppression, it lets everyone live a happy life and have all their material needs met. I like that.

[Comrade #138672]

* It is the only way to solve the ever returning crises of Capitalism.
* Because our society will be better off with Communism.
* To end oppression.
* To end wars.
* Free pot.

[Red Nightmare]

I am a communist because it is in my class interests to be a communist and I also believe that communism would be the most just and fair way to organize ourselves.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Because I don't like the idea of living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by even though I work full time while someone else reaps the rewards and gets to live a cosey life.

[evermilion]

Comrades, I like Communism.

No.

Comrades, I love Communism.

I love analysis. I love history. I love planning. I love distribution. I love production. I love systems. I love schematics. I love politics. I love society. I love dialectic. I love the proletariat and I absolutely love saying "proletariat."

I love Orthodox Marxism. I love Leninism. I love Trotskyism. I love Stalinism. I love Juche. I love Songun. I love social democracy. I love anarchism. Even though I am a Marxist-Leninist (or Jeoncheist, as I now go by for reasons), I love the full spectrum of communistic thought, from orthodoxy to absurd revisionism.

I love revolution. I love insurrection. I love guerrilla warfare. I love the construction of situations alternative to capitalism. I love the underground. I love sabotage. I love subversion. I love red scares and cold wars. I love every act of revolution that can occur upon this earth.

But most of all, I love being told I'm wrong. I love it when arrogant lolbertarians and conservatives tell me I need to "wake up." I love it when other leftists tell me I'm a monster and a "red fascist." I love it when I hear that my ideals "work only in theory" or, better yet, "on paper." I love hearing about how human nature "disproves" communism. And I love knowing that not a damn word of any of that makes a difference.

[#FF0000]

It's the only way I'll ever be able to afford a Warhammer 40k army.

[Yuppie Grinder]

I'm an edgy teenager.

[rednordman]

To simply fuck the living hell off right wingers, who really cannot accept our existence. So much so, that they resort to really stupid arguments and astounding idiotic slurs.

[Slavic]

Profit is essentially theft of labor and life, and labor unhinged from profit-based capitalism can provide so much good for humanity.

[Desy]

* It is the only way to solve the ever returning crises of Capitalism.
* Because our society will be better off with Communism.
* To end oppression.
* To end wars.
* Free pot.

Ha. All of this.

From now on when someone brings up the question 'why should they be a communist?' I'm going to say, 'For free pot!!!!! And freedom and shit.' Ha.

[Brandon's Impotent Rage]

Why did Marx want socialism? Why did the Russian people want socialism? Why did the French communards want socialism?

Why does ANYONE want socialism?

Because I want FREEDOM, that's why. I want the freedom to live as I please, to speak as I please, to love as I please, to labor as I please, and to be able to enjoy the fruits of that labor as I please. Without bosses, without rulers, without parasites, without war mongers, without oppressors.

I do not want one more human being sacrificed to the golden calf of profit. I do not want one more child to go hungry. I do not want one more person to be persectued due to who they are. I do not want one more impoverished person in prison. I do not want the freedom and brotherhood of all mankind to be decided at the whim of a cabal of plutocrats and murderers.

I want socialism, because I want A BETTER FUTURE.

[Brutus]

Because communism has the sexiest theorists

[Always Curious J]

I want people to be happy. I'm sick of all this stress and pain in the world. People hungry while food rots in storage. People without basic education, without health care. All these people living paycheck to paycheck. All the stress. People living in fear. People without freedom to do what they choose. I'm sick of the oppression. Or to sum it up, I'm sick of capitalism. The world needs communism. It needs it now.

[BAMslam15]

Because I'm sick of Fox News spewing lies and I want the people of world to better understand each other and live in harmony without the intervention of large corporations and corrupt politicians. In a nutshell, capitalism is the root cause of all the pain and suffering across the world

[Skyhilist]

It treats everyone fairly and has some pretty badass theory IMO. Also, it'd mean easier access to important resources since I want to be a research scientist (herpetologist specifically).

[Craig_J]

So I can actually live in a soicety which gives me the means to achieve what I want, which is ironically an argument in favour of capitalism. I'm a 19 year old college student and the government no longer pays financial support to students. We used to get EMA which was £30 a week then it went down to £20 a week and now it's nothing. Now I have to spend a lot of my time working as a barman so that my mum doesn't have to struggle to feed me and my sister. That time could be used for me studying and actually improving myself but instead it's devoted to pulling pints all day and getting moaned at by the rich people who go to the racecourse.

If capitalism is about self improvment and achieving your aspirations then I certainly don't see any evidence of that when it;s stopping me from improving myself and making me dehumanise myself into a machiene.

I'm a firm believer in evoloution and acknowledge that evolotion of humanity as survival of the fitness but now we're past that and it's about ensuring that we enlighten ourselves a lot more and ensure a better life for each end every generation as the world goes on. This will never happen as long as capitalism exists.

[slum]

self interest; wage slavery makes me want to kill myself and i hate having constant anxiety about how i'm going to be able to live because society is organized so that a few people get to live large and secure lives by wringing value out of the rest of us, also i'm invested in women's liberation and that's only possible thru the abolition of private property imo

that's my primary interest. i'm interested in communist theory because i love ideas and making sense of things and arguing about the best way to make sense of things etc. it's like some kind of intellectual circle-jerk disease.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I was working in a dark satanic mill when one of my smudgy-faced comrades harshly whispered, "take this, quickly, before they see you!" and slid a copy of Das Kapital across to me. Ever since I've come to understand that it's in my class interest to fight capital tooth and nail, and oppose the revolting liberal bourgeois morality that's keeping the heads of the capitalists attached to their bloated necks!

[Os Cangaceiros]

(But actually I came to my present beliefs while in college. Is that embarrassing? :blushing: )

[Sidagma]

I spent three years homeless and in abject poverty after fleeing my abusive parents as a teenager. While eventually I started getting social security money for my disability from the bourgeois state, I still have spent quite enough time in horrible situations to realize many of the flaws of capitalism first-hand, namely:

-That the existing legal framework in the United States prioritizes the preservation of the family over the safety or livelihood of any of its members (except for, VERY arguably, the husband)
-That abuse is a generational problem that has been demonstrably injected into communities through capitalist abuses, such as (in my case) boarding schools,
-That the function of bourgeois education is in fact to stamp out independent thought as thoroughly as possible and churn out thoroughly defeated adults with no critical thinking or problem solving abilities,
-That a vast, VAST majority of the bigotries levied in my direction trace their roots to the abilities of different factions of the bourgeoisie to control the narrative surrounding various facets of my identities,
-That addressing any of these problems is simply not the priority of the capitalist state. In fact, attempts that it does make often have very, very little to do with addressing it and more to do with criminalizing sections of the population so that they can be imprisoned and forced to work for pennies a day.

The money that I get from the government still is frankly not adequate to live off of, and the other resources I have access to are highly lacking, to say the very least. The obvious political reality of the situation, at least from my perspective, is that the capitalist state has the resources to address these problems, but chooses not to for reasons noted above. I don't want people to suffer like I have, and so I struggle for a better future.

My interactions with other groups of people have only nuanced and built upon that which has motivated me since I was an impoverished teenager.

[Bardo]

Because capitalism is simply unsustainable.

I'm not much of a romantic where revolution is concerned, I just think they're unavoidable consequences to centuries of exploitative rule by a small minority over the majority of the global population. It was inevitable that the bourgeois would overthrow the old order, and the proletarian revolution is equally unavoidable.

[Brutus]

Seriously, I am from a proletarian family, so it is in my class interests.
Socialism will allow me to work for the betterment of society as a whole, rather than for the enrichment of a capitalist

[Jimmie Higgins]

For liberation, to have some control over, or at least say in, the things that impact my life and the lives of people around me.

I don't want to live a wasted life making money for others in exchange for the best years of my life... this may be inevitable so I at least want to try and help create conditions where it won't always be inevitable for most people in the forseeable future. It breaks my heart to see how this system just throws lives away constantly: into meaningless hours of wage-work, into prisons, onto the streets, elderly and sick people being tossed into storage until they die alone, people being fodder for wars for the powerful, etc. Our hours are worth more than the wages they give us and our humanity is worth more than being mearly a cog in this monsterous machine.

[Doflamingo]

Because it makes more sense to me than any other system. Why would someone willingly support a system that is against them?

[Orange Juche]

I was raised in such a way to come to believe that people should be treated kindly, and fairly - and with a deep sense of wrong and right. A deeply undemocratic and oppressive system such as this one isn't a fair system, therefore, I naturally oppose it for a superior one.

I actually don't really care for any benefit I would have, it's just things like I went to a fast food place once and the lady at the register's kid (who was young) was messing around because, clearly, she couldn't afford a babysitter and the kid had to hang out there while she worked. It's madness. That wouldn't be possible in a just system. I see and hear things constantly that are abhorrent and related to the system. It's like a sickness that's become normalized. It's insane.

[Nakidana]

Because we can do better than capitalism.


(But actually I came to my present beliefs while in college. Is that embarrassing? :blushing: )

No, I frequently refer to college as a "dark satanic mill". :D

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

An unshakable sense that it's the only kind of world worth striving for and living in. The world we have now is one where there are constant preventable / man-made deaths and hardships suffered all over the world, and that's just not fucking on.

[Futility Personified]

Communism is:

The best system for a society where negative emotions have less reason to occur.
Where everyone owns their labour, where you are your own boss and you help others achieve what they desire.
Where we can ensure everyone has a say in everything, democracy and it's sense of participation provides a sense of fulfillment.
There will be less need for war.
Vital resources will be used sustainably, so we can make sure our lives are comfortable but not destructive.
Culture will be more free, creativity will be encouraged.
People will be accepted for who they are.
My children will be able to live the happier life that for the most part we all will be denied under capitalism.

[Wings Of Redemption]

I dunno if I can call myself a communist just yet since I know next to nothing about theory but here it goes.....
It's simple, I want to live in a world free of exploitation, injustice, tyranny and oppression.
A world where people aren't treated as a statistic which can be exploited for financial gain.
Living from week to week on a lousy paycheck which I break my back for is a miserable existence.

[WelcomeToTheParty]

Because no one should have to live in the appalling conditions Capitalism creates all around the world.

[Nevsky]

Because there is a desperate need for global emancipation of humanity. Marxism is the only logical option. People believe marxism to be outdated but the truth is that our current model of society is outdated. The "first world's" wealth is based on capitalist/imperialist exploitation all over the world and even within its own borders deregulated capital is ruining millions of lives, destroying nature et cetera.

[Marxaveli]

Two reasons for me, love and hate.

The love part comes from being a lover of humanity. I want to see our species reach its full potential. We have come a long way, but still have so far to go. We have accomplished incredible things in our history, but imagine what we could do without all the exploitation, estrangement, alienation and so forth that we have now.

The hate part comes from an EXTREMELY intense hatred (not even a strong enough word really) of the capitalist system, and everything about it. Of course, pretty much all communists hate capitalism, but my particular venom towards it is exceptional even by communist standards. I would rather die, up to my knees in revolution and in the blood of bureaucrats and capitalists, than be a slave in this sham of a despicable system. I can't even think about it really, because it gets my blood boiling. My hate of this system knows no bounds.

[newdayrising]

The first thing I related to in revolutionary politics as a young kid was the thought that we could consciously mold society to be how we want it to be instead of passively watch everything while it's directed by invisible forces no one seems to be able to control, not even the ruling class.
Later I read Marx and he elaborated on this with better phrasing and more depth :)

[cyu]

Some things in life are easy to do. Some things are hard.

If you do too much of the easy stuff, it just gets boring, so you start switching to the harder stuff. What could be a more worthy use of time than improving the lives of everyone on the planet? Certainly no capitalist is going to do that. Some pro-capitalists may claim that capitalism is better for the world, but no real capitalist honestly believes that deep down. They've basically already admitted their own defeat and are merely trying to grab what they can before it all goes to hell in a handbasket.

[Rafiq]

I am a Marxist. Communism is a weapon of the proletariat. As a Marxist, I know the proletariat is the only class capable of destroying the present state of things. There is a contradiction of interests between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. The only way to end it is with the latter's defeat. Communism will triumph.

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[uk_communist]

My deepest reason for being a Libertarian Communist is because I believe that the People have been oppressed by the bureaucratic governments enough. It's time for communism to have it's *real* chance - no state, no class, no slavery.

Peace and socialism to you all, comrades. :)

[ind_com]

Capitalist innards are tasty.

[Let's Get Free]

I look forward to a time and place where all will be forgotten, the lion will lay down with the lamb, things shall return again to as they were in the age of storybooks and unicorns, and a spirit of true, everlasting love and dreams come true will once more fill the air.

[Quail]

Capitalism makes me angry. It makes me angry on a personal level because I and the people I love (and most of humanity in general) will always be limited by having to work for a living so that we can survive. I can't feel anything but contempt for a system where one class does all the work to sustain our society and another reaps all the benefits of that society (lol that's close to a Star Trek quote). I feel angry and outraged at all the injustices and indignities other human beings have to suffer because they are poor, because they are the "wrong" gender, colour, etc. I think every human being deserves the chance to live up to their potential. To grow as people instead of being bound by useless toil. I think that all human beings deserve equal opportunities to grow and thrive, but ultimately that simply isn't possible in a capitalist society.

Also, not only is capitalism limiting and degrading for human beings, but it is also destroying our planet. It isn't in the interests of those in power to think about the planet when it's more profitable to poison the air and the sea, to keep on pumping out CO2, to deplete the nutrients in the soil.

Capitalism hurts human beings in so many ways it is just impossible to support it as an economic system. Communism offers a realistic and positive alternative. Even if I never live to see a communist society, it is worth fighting for so that future generations can live in a better world.

Sorry if that was a bit rambly, I'm a bit tired.

[John Lennin]

* It is the only way to solve the ever returning crises of Capitalism.
* Because our society will be better off with Communism.
* To end oppression.
* To end wars.
* Free pot.
All of the above.
Especially the pot-thing.

[Luís Henrique]

If you are a communist, you *have* to make pre-suppositions in order to justify your choice.

What are the other options?

Luís Henrique

[Akshay!]

Hatred of injustice and suffering.

[GerrardWinstanley]

Undiluted hatred of this country and the people in control of it.

Plus, I dream of a world with no police in it and I am actually willing to do literally anything to accomplish that.

[Anglo-Saxon Philistine]

Objectively, being bisexual, irreligious and partly Bosniak (with a surname that is common among Serbs), my interests are quite aligned to those of the proletariat. Give or take a few years, I'll probably be broke and living in a cardboard box, and the alignment will be even greater.

Subjectively, I'm sick of the present society. I started out wanting to help people, but that gave way to bitterness and rage at the system a long time ago.

[Alain]

I'm considering myself to be a socialist, not a communist, but I'll answer your question nonetheless...
Because it is the only moral system there is. And that is because it is moral on paper. Now, people might get it wrong, nobody is perfect, and the system might get corrupted(like the USSR), but it is still theoretically a morally just system. In the meantime, capitalism, fascism and whatever else is wrong and corrupt to begin with. Even on paper, the policy of "you have to break a few eggs if you want to make an omelette" is unjust and immoral.

[Tenka]

Property is criminal. Not like petty theft; but a legal crime perpetrated in perpetuity by the ruling class against the rest of humanity, largely the proletariat. Property justifies and results in needless death and poverty whilst being won through blood in the first place, and is in a symbiotic relationship with Patriarchy and of course the Capitalist value system. My "deepest reason" for being a Communist is that I want to see an end to Property and the property-holding class.

[Djoko]

Because I hate rich people

[helot]

Does it really need a justification? How about 'because i'd find use in it?' Come on, communism is defined negatively. It is the negation of class society. It's not like i own capital, class society doesn't serve me.

[TheEmancipator]

Because I've seen some of the horror side effects of our current culture within my family and friends, and I am desperate for revolution.

[Tower of Bebel]

The struggle for it... as it coincides with the one for survival... is the meaning of life.

[billydan]

I think that communism is non oppression and works in a perfect way
And people will live a happy and safe life

[DasFapital]

Because growing up the conservative creationists around me were so opposed to it that I figured it had to be good.

[Luís Henrique]

The struggle for it... as it coincides with the one for survival... is the meaning of life.

So if we succeed, life loses meaning?

Luís Henrique

[Luís Henrique]

Property is criminal. Not like petty theft; but a legal crime perpetrated in perpetuity by the ruling class against the rest of humanity, largely the proletariat.

What is a crime, if not something that is defined by law as being a crime?

Luís Henrique

[RATMfan1992]

i see how my people and especially the working class are being oppressed by our government while bankers, politicians, and corporations are getting away with murder. i want an alternative to end this widespread corruption which is why i will continue to support and struggle for a complete removal of this rotten corrupt capitalist system which is failing our people and to implement a fairer, more equal system. a socialist one.

[T5seconds]

Capitalism to me is inherently undemocratic. The greatest contradiction ever recorded was "freedom to work" which led to child slave labor in England before they realized how fucking stupid that sounds. Capitalists have the audacity to say that socialism infringes on natural freedoms.

[Tenka]

What is a crime, if not something that is defined by law as being a crime?

Luís Henrique

Since it apparently wasn't obvious: I wasn't using a legal definition of crime. Nor do I believe anything silly like revolution being retribution. This is a thread for stating one's personal reasons, isn't it? And it's not as if one's deepest personal reason would or even should match what I suppose good theory says is the appropriate reason.

On an impersonal level, Communism is in my perceived class interest. But what fun is that to repeat?

[Thewhitesea]

It gives the right to seek new opportunities out of good nature and never restricts anyone to a document, PhD, or economic insufficiency. Only under such a system, could human progress move faster towards a prosperity of happiness for all. Communism does not discriminate or exploit. Communism truly encourages education, creativity, helping, and trust.

[human strike]

Because alienation.

[Rusakov]

Because I reuse to accept, in spite of the current position of capitalist insititutions, the idea that capitalism is the only option and that it is impossible, via socialist principles, to create much better societies than we have now.

[Polaris]

Because I've seen how the current system destroys people. And because we deserve the rewards of our own labor.
It is the only way to achieve freedom and end oppression for humanity.

[Tolstoy]

Capitalism in some way, shape or form always relies on the misery of others. Considering the extent of poverty and misery filling the world compared to the wealth of an increasingly small few, ive come to the conclusion that there is no moral justification for capitalism

[Madavascus]

Because I believe that it is only under true socialism that humans can be truly be happy and fulfilled.

[The Intransigent Faction]

Because the idea that we have to accept people starving on the streets as inevitable because there's "too much" food and "too many" houses is just fucking mind-numbingly insane and should not be accepted by any rational individual. In short, the purpose of our building stuff should be to use it one way or another, not to make some guy in a suit rich.

[V.Vendetta]

I am a communist (anarcho-communist specifically) because I see communism as the only social system that can most maximize individual freedom and abolish the tension between the individual and society.

My primary values are freedom and solidarity; individual autonomy and the free pursuit of one's happiness, and the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals toward mutually beneficial ends. Only anarchist-communism can create the social conditions that will allow for both maximum freedom of the individual and social harmony.

As long as wage-labor and money exist, freedom is restricted. As long as the state exists, we are enslaved. As long as the means of life are in private hands, we are exploited. MY freedom is contingent upon the freedom of all my fellow human beings, for we can only flourish in association. For the sake of my freedom, and the freedom of my fellow human beings, I am an anarchist-communist.

My commitment to communism is moral rather than marxian; given that human beings possess both self-awareness and the desire to act, freedom is essential to human life and happiness. Any violation of human freedom is thereby an abomination, as it degrades the quality of human life and thwarts our potential. With freedom and solidarity as the highest values, communism is the most logical and desirable social system.