Russian government sending Assad missiles

[Comrade Nasser]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/17/world/middleeast/russia-provides-syria-with-advanced-missiles.html

Don't know what to make of this. Russia, Iran, & hezbollah seem to really want to keep Assad in power.

[Horatio Hufnagel]

This isn't surprising. Say what you will about the FSA, Syria and the struggle(s) in Syria are indicative of the struggles within other autocratic states such as Russia and Iran. A revolution of any kind in Syria, good or bad, is pointing at revolutionary movements in other autocratic states. See Turkey for an example.

[ckaihatsu]

This isn't surprising. Say what you will about the FSA, Syria and the struggle(s) in Syria are indicative of the struggles within other autocratic states such as Russia and Iran.




A revolution of any kind in Syria, good or bad, is pointing at revolutionary movements in other autocratic states. See Turkey for an example.


Yes, Turkey, only very recently, but if all "revolutionary movements", "good or bad", were to be hailed equally we would have had no differences with what happened in Libya. Now the multinational corporations control Libya's oil, just as NATO intended. And wasn't there a "revolutionary movement" in Libya that led to these results -- ?

There's a difference between a groundswell of grassroots *internal* opposition to a national dictator, like that at Cairo's Tahrir Square which overthrew Hosni Mubarak, and a *destabilization* from *without*, as we've seen in the long history of the CIA, and now NATO.

[Tolstoy]

Marxist support of Assad is asinine and is part of this obnoxious trend of "Anyone who doesent like the US dislike imperialism so fuck yeah!" thought. Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people and has behaved highly immorally and when viewed objectively, he deserves defeat.

Some say that due to his support of Palestine, he deserves our support. However he apparently wasnt good enough for the Hamas and its not like the rebels new government is going to be Zionist or something

[ckaihatsu]

Marxist support of Assad is asinine


You're presuming that there *is* such a thing -- any defense of Syria is for the sake of the *people* of Syria, against foreign predation, and is *not* automatically for whoever happens to rule the country at the moment.





and is part of this obnoxious trend of "Anyone who doesent like the US dislike imperialism so fuck yeah!" thought.


People who dislike U.S. policy are most likely anti-imperialists, yes.





Assad has used chemical weapons against his own people





UN says US-backed opposition, not Syrian regime, used poison gas

By Alex Lantier
7 May 2013

In a series of interviews, UN investigator Carla del Ponte said that sarin gas used in Syria was fired by the US-backed opposition, not the regime of President Bashar al-Assad.
Her account explodes the lies on which Washington and its European allies have based their campaign for war with Syria, according to which the US and its allies are preparing to attack Syria to protect its people from Assad’s chemical weapons. In fact, available evidence of sarin use implicates the Islamist-dominated “rebels” who are armed by US-allied Middle Eastern countries, under CIA supervision.




http://wsws.org/en/articles/2013/05/07/syri-m07.html





and has behaved highly immorally and when viewed objectively, he deserves defeat.

Some say that due to his support of Palestine, he deserves our support. However he apparently wasnt good enough for the Hamas and its not like the rebels new government is going to be Zionist or something


Nice -- you're "assuming the sale", in thinking that the imperialist-backed opposition *will* prevail and enjoy their own rulership over Syria.

[Tolstoy]

Actually, thanks for sending me that news story, even the mainstream Washington post reported it. Since this was just one U.N. official, I am still leery but im deeply cynical of both sides in this conflict.