The Mark Of The Beast

[sickofyou]

In the writings of the last book of the Bible- people often reffered to a number 666 as being the mark of this beast and the number of man. Do any1 of you subscribe to this notion as it being an actuall mark or not.?

barcode/theory (http://religion-cults.com/antichrist/666.htm)

[MysticArcher]

yeah, I have no idea where they got the number from, but when I think about such a 'mark' would probably be more of a metaphor for the sin in people's lives and how it effects them or whatever

I don't think even among christians there's agreement on this, but I'm not sure

[canikickit]

H.i.t.l.e.r.

A=100
B=101
C=102
D=103

etc., etc.

It's all pure nonsense, of course.
but I did carve "666" into my thumb when I was younger and more foolish. No pits opened beneath my feet, or anything like that, unfortunately.

[LSD]

Plus, some early manuscripts say that the 'evil number' is 665 or 616! So even if you accept this crap, how do you know which 'evil number' to beware of?

[Trissy]

I always thought it came from the number 3 which is supposed to be a good number in the bible (number of wise men, number of crosses on the hill, number of days Jesus was dead supposedly, number of times Peter denies Christ, the holy trinity, etc, etc) and so three threes is 333 which in theory would be a holy number making the double of it 666 unholy :S That's just a pure guess though...

Personally I just think it's another part of the big story book that is the bible and hence I'm not too bothered about its origins. Then again it does make the plot for the film the Omen I suppose so it's not all bad even if the Anti-christ is born at 6am on the 6th June.

[airavata]

It's all pure nonsense, of course.
but I did carve "666" into my thumb when I was younger and more foolish. No pits opened beneath my feet, or anything like that, unfortunately.


I never carved anything, but around a year to two years back, I used to sometimes write 666 on my arm in bold gothic letters. I used to hold my arm and pray that i would sprout wings and hideous claws. Alas, nothing of that sort ever happened.

[canikickit]

It wasn't really carving, actually. That's a bit over the top.
it was just a few lines with a scalpel, which was sharp enough to not leave any scars.

[RedAnarchist]

Theres no hell, no heaven, no god or anything like that.

If you belive in that sort of thing, you may as well belive that Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny exist, as you wont exactly be the epitome of sane.

[sickofyou]

It wasn't really carving, actually. That's a bit over the top. it was just a few lines with a scalpel, which was sharp enough to not leave any scars.

...well if thats all, then i think it is safe to say you are THE ANTICHRIST :o

[STI]

Well, 6 is the number of Man, and 3 is the number of God. '6', three times means 'man trying to be God'. Anyway, i'm keeping '666' off of my right hand and my forehead, just in case.

[Ortega]

Very interesting... how was the number 666 mentioned in the bible?

[Urban Rubble]

I'm not sure how many of you guys have actually read the bible, but this is the impression I got of the "mark of the beast". They talk about how you will need the mark to accomplish anything in society, buy food, buy anything really. I think it would be some sort of chip implanted into you to keep track of your daily life. You would need it as a sort of imbedded credit card. The way they made it sound it the bible it would be used for eveything, to buy things, to keep track of you.

The technology for these kinds of things is already there and they have experiemented putting them in rabbits. If they ever introduce something like that I will never get it out of sheer paranoia. It'll be time to head to the hills for me.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 08:10 AM

It's all pure nonsense, of course.
but I did carve "666" into my thumb when I was younger and more foolish. No pits opened beneath my feet, or anything like that, unfortunately.


I never carved anything, but around a year to two years back, I used to sometimes write 666 on my arm in bold gothic letters. I used to hold my arm and pray that i would sprout wings and hideous claws. Alas, nothing of that sort ever happened.
Well, I guess you had better give your priest an extra special blow job if you want to go to heaven after that stunt!

[Purple]

i carved the up-side-down pentagram on my arm, and tons of agient "evil" symbols, but I never did die, nor did I met any supernatural things...

But the only thing I can tell is that the upsidedown cross comes from some st. that did not want o dignify himself to be hung on the same cross as jesus, so he placed it upsidedown or something....




:)

[canikickit]

That was (S)aint Peter I think.


I never did die, nor did I met any supernatural things...

That's what you think.

[Hate Is Art]

according to the pixies man is 5, the devil and god is 7!

[Rastaman]

has there really ever been a time when the number 666 was of any importance?

and: also people that can write powerfull books drink.

[monkeydust]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 10:34 PM
Very interesting... how was the number 666 mentioned in the bible?
Jusr read 'Revelations'. It's quite hillarious going on about the Beast and the Dragon, the kind of thing Christians don't like to exxagerate because they know it's outrageous.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Yeah, I've read Revelations, it sounds like the revelings of a drunken madman.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

What a pointless debate?

Mark of the best, pfft.

I am Jesus, I spurn thee.

[hazard]

boy are you people dumb

you do know that the book of revelation has foot notes

six is the number of imperfection, and oddly, it is the only number that is a counter clockwise spiral. it indicates one more than the maximum number of digits allowed on a limb, and is additionally the day when God completed his construction of heaven and earth.

seven is the number of perfection, mostly because it is day on which God rested.

pixies did NAIL this one in Monkey Gone To Heaven.

now THREE is a biblical number of power, ala the holy trinity. this has an indirect reference to the process of birth.

combining the power number, 3, and the number of imprefection, 6, one arrives at the number of the beast. who is supposed to be something like the satanic version of Jesus. or something. number of birth and imperfection, right? right.

some people see REVELATION as also having some "real" world significance as well and all these numbers and codes refer to real people living in the real world at the time responsible for persecuting christians. somehow, if you work the numbers right, 666 spells out NERO. but this crack on the book of revelations is screwy at best. like you ever read the similarities between the assisnation s of JFK and LINCOLN? some or neat, some are fucked. like the parking space number of JFK happens to be the same birthday as jackie Onnassis's sister's brother in law. some connections are clear, some are not. the correlation cannot be denied in some, but are idiotic in others.

[MysticArcher]

" boy are you people dumb"

no, you have to consider the fact that most people posting on che lives are atheists and no one here is claiming to be some great theologian, so just lay off


" it sounds like the revelings of a drunken madman."

MidnightMarauder, it certainly seems to be

[hazard]

exactly my point, mystic

communism is, to me, an intelligent approach to the governing of all worlds people mostly on a scale of intelligence and rejection of material accumulation. religion is already, at least in most intelligent christian sects, in direct agreement with communism on this point. its where communism gets it from. intelligence has to do with this same said rejection of material. it depends upon how able you are to see past the material world. stupid people see nothing but the material they are presented with. intelligent people see this, and more. very intelligent people tend to ignore the material world and see it as being something else entirely. religion calls this complete rejection heaven. communism calls it utopia, or something to a similar effect.

to infuse communism with atheism only has everything to do with the way that protestantism was used as an opiate to the public. marx, in the modern world, would probably support most major world religions and be vastly opposed to the modern opiates of drugs and TV.

[MysticArcher]

hazard, some good points, I'm just saying a little more tolerance, less insults

as for the materialism/religion link it's true religions do preach not being materialistic, but I think you put too much faith (no pun intended) into christianity

I mean christianity has been in and of itself one of most materialistic of religions, especially catholicism

and I know that doesn't mean all christians are materialistic, I'm just pointing this out

"most intelligent christian sects"
but how many of those are there? how many "good" as in non (or less) materialistic christians are there compared to the masses of other christians, mainly those in the U$, some of the biggest hypocrites

"to infuse communism with atheism only has everything to do with the way that protestantism was used as an opiate to the public"
could you elaborate a little, I don't see the link between protestantism and atheism

[hazard]

catholocism is the least materialist of all religious sects in the christian faith

I don't see how you can say otherwise. they never operated under a profit motive, such as is the entire reason for ALL of protestantism

elabration on what? my second sentence elaborates nicely. what I mean is that most modern commies reject religion because marx called it an opiate. which is true when you look at protestentasim, which is catholocism refined into a capital generating religion, heavy on opiation and low on spiritiuality.

[MysticArcher]

" catholocism is the least materialist of all religious sects in the christian faith"
while it's not quite for profit, I'm sure the church must have to collect quite a bit to run the Vatican, to pay for all the church bureaucrats and guards for the pope and such
and I don't know about recently, but I bet those cathedrals cost quite a lot

I don't quite get what your whole deal with hating protestants is, but I thought the point in protestantism was to not have to listen to the pope

[hazard]

the hole point of protestantism was to mas-market Jesus for the sole purpose of generating profit. some greedy, godless heathens decided, all of a sudden, that they wanted to make money for the purpose of making money. thats cash money, not god money. if they were truly concerned in Jesus and God they would not have done this for profit. they would have developed some sort of non-money oriented church. instead, they decided to only be in it for he cash money and leave the god money for the catholics.

[pedro san pedro]

i agree completely with hazards elabooration onb religion being the opiate of the people.
consumerism, fashion, television, these are the new opiates, the things that people indulge in to escape from the harsher realities of their lives.
strangely enough, most leftists i know dont watch tv, dont by much, and have awful fashion sense.

[hazard]

personally, I'ma fan of the uniform

but shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

don't tell no-one

my fashion sense is sort of anti-fashion

thats why I, back in 2000, was called super styles for a while

but shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

don't tell no-one

some of my other nicknames were

MODULOUS, THE GASOLINE BARON and REANIMATOR

gasoline baron was wierd. it seemed everyime I was low on gas the prices would skyrocket. by like ten cents a hike. all my little hacker buddies noticed this and accused me of manipulkating the oil prices. so I said like sure, I'm an oil baron. and being the little punks they were they sort of latched onto it and added it to my list of nicknames.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 01:41 PM
Well, 6 is the number of Man, and 3 is the number of God. '6', three times means 'man trying to be God'. Anyway, i'm keeping '666' off of my right hand and my forehead, just in case.
Be sure to throw spilt salt over your shoulder also and never break a mirror, just in case.

[Exploited Class]

I do like the idea of accidently just ending up with 666 on your hand or forehead just because you weren't actively trying to keep it off your hand or forehead.

[Anastacia]

I don't think it is just some kind of mark. I think it is really something serious. Some interpretations say that it's some kind of chip. And the book of revelation says that people can't buy or sell anything without it. Don't know exactly how it is in english bible. And I don't think that 666 appears in it. 'Man trying to be god" sounds more logical.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2004, 03:05 AM
I don't think it is just some kind of mark. I think it is really something serious. Some interpretations say that it's some kind of chip. And the book of revelation says that people can't buy or sell anything without it. Don't know exactly how it is in english bible. And I don't think that 666 appears in it. 'Man trying to be god" sounds more logical.
If it was really so scary, so real and so bad do you think it would really be that ambigious and open to interpretation?

I mean, look at us now in the 21st Century, look at what we do with something poisonous. Is there any doubt at all left out that an item that is poisonous, how many warnings, stickers, skulls and crossbones are there on that item?

If there was something this dangerous and to warn the world of, it wouldn't be so blurry.

What if it the 666 is in reference to a Hexidecimal system denoting the skin color on the hand? Or if 666 is the DNA breakdown or the number of oxygen molecules in the dead center of a hand. Maybe it is about the Ordenterch, a device yet to be created.

[sickofyou]

you don't think thishttp://www.basecamp.cnchost.com/apache-assault-helicopter.jpg
could be interpreted as a dragon 100s of years ago?

[Rasta Sapian]

no thats a helocopter dude. :P

I have heard about this implanted chip you are refering too as well.
Suposidly in the near future as technology advances, mandkind will be almost forced to have this chip with a specific code created found in each chip ie. representing the mark of the beast (apocolypse) where if you don't have one, you will become impompatible with everyone else. I doubt its true, I think things are getting better not worse. :)

but if anyone forces me to get one, I will fight to the death to prevent it!

peace yall

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 9 2004, 04:48 PM
according to the pixies man is 5, the devil [is 6] and god is 7!
this monkey's gone to heaven, wise words indeed.

[Se7en]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 03:52 AM
the hole point of protestantism was to mas-market Jesus for the sole purpose of generating profit. some greedy, godless heathens decided, all of a sudden, that they wanted to make money for the purpose of making money. thats cash money, not god money. if they were truly concerned in Jesus and God they would not have done this for profit. they would have developed some sort of non-money oriented church. instead, they decided to only be in it for he cash money and leave the god money for the catholics.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

please oh please tell me that this is sarcasm...

[Le Libérer]

AllI know is, 666 is the last 3 digits of my Social Security number. I remember at 8 years old, my mother being so frantic about it that she called the SOcial security office and begged them to give me another one. They laughed at her.

Over the years, when I've had to give my SS number I've watched the look of horror on the faces of government workers, school counselors and laughed at them! I've also notice having those 3 digits has given me a persona I do not deserve nor feed into.

Thank You.
Satanic Debora

[Purple]

666- in Norwegian you say it like "sex"... Same thing... It used to be illegal with other positions than the "misonary" position and if you take a six and a nine(head down six) it will be "69", and 69 is a known sexual position. And if you add an extra six then it will include sexuality with more than two persons fucking, and that is wrong according to the bible...(i think)

[Adamore]

of corse i got one and every one else born in america. its ur social security number.
theyre just not tattooed yet :)

[hazard]

yeah, the take on revelation as speaking of modern times is hysterical

if you ever check out the protestant propaganda, religious stations, you'll find them running these shows every month or so. they do these idiotic comparitives to the plague and sign of the beast and shit to try and prove thatthe end is coming. so you better send your cash. of course, all the comparitives are shown with flash bang effects with all of the video editing and musical scores you can imagine.

like the helicopter sorta looks like a locust so thats what John meant. and the horsemen are like Bush and Hussein and Blair and Milosevic. or something.

sometimes it can be interesting, but since the book itself was written most likely in code, the modern interpretations seem out of place. especially considering the fact that all the original christians WANTED the world to end. and the world, as it was, did end soon after ROME indoctrinated christianity as its state religion, plunging europe into a thousand years of intellectual stagnancy and terrible living conditions.

[DarkAngel]

I think I saw some special on the history channel about it actually being 616. Because some evil Greek ruler Sizor. How if you put his full name in to Roman numerals it actually becomes 616, 666 is a misinterpretation

[cubist]

lol


666 has everything to do with

7 being gods number

on the 7th day he rested,
7 angels trumpetting in the sky on jesus's return
theres more, but i can't think at the mo

[STI]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2004, 03:42 PM
I think I saw some special on the history channel about it actually being 616. Because some evil Greek ruler Sizor. How if you put his full name in to Roman numerals it actually becomes 616, 666 is a misinterpretation
Well, revalation was written during Roman times, and Rome had conquered Greece at the time, so there wouldn't have been a 'Greek ruler' that John would have known about. Greece really hadn't had any rulers of its own until after the fall of the Ottoman empire, i believe.

[DarkAngel]

Greek, romen blah blah woof woof :)

[zapata's_ghost]

i think its probably a load of crap. . . but it is quite interesting that the great fire of london and the plague broke out in the year 1666. is that interesting or just some shitty coincidence?