US SOLDIER SUICIDES IN IRAQ

[Guerilla22]

Morale amongst US soldiers in Iraq is extremely low, to say the least. So low that 17 servicemen (15 army, and 2 Marines) have committed suicide since July. That makes up more than 25% of all non-combat related deaths. It appears that the prolonged duration of the troops stay in Iraq (Some troops spent time in places like Korea for a year and then were shipped out to fight in the war. Others had take part in operations in Afghanistan and had not even been back in the US for an entire year were deployed.)

Alarmed by the high number of suicides the Pentagon has sent "crisis management teams" comprised of mental health proffesionals to help the troops. My question is will we start to see an open revolt and popular disatisfaction in Iraq by US forces and if so to what extent?

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Also I hear on www.news.bbc.co.uk that today 35U$ soldies were wounded

[Jesus Christ]

Its sad to see anyone in a suicidal state, no matter who it is.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Hmm.... stupid yankee officers don't even stop when their pawns are offing themselves... truly they are heartless.

[Kez]

maybe this is why communists should operate within the ranks of the army? instead of suicide, these soldiers would turn to the communists (even American soldiers would rather turn to communism than suicide, just though...) who could direct them what to do, and the possibilities are endless, they could just stop shooting, and give information to the public about how bankrupt (in moral and values) the army is as a tool of the state, as a result, weakening the workers faith in capitalism.

views?

[Hate Is Art]

a very good idea, I think it could work! Allthough you could get a beating for being an evil red.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

now its 1 dead 34 injured.

also they have taken out another yankee army helicopter killing all 9 crew.


All nine people on board a US military helicopter have been killed after it made an emergency landing in Iraq.
The Black Hawk came down near the town of Falluja, west of Baghdad, the US military said, but the cause of the forced landing is not yet known.

Falluja is a hotbed of the Iraqi insurgency and has seen several clashes between local people and US troops.

On Wednesday, a US soldier was killed and 34 injured in a mortar attack on their base west of Baghdad.

BBC News - Full story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3379433.stm)

[praxis1966]

Kez: I would like to think that your idea could work, but its highly impractical. I have a sneaking suspicion that the commanding officers of such rabble rousing enlisted men would probably result in a court martial and subsequent 10 year paid vacation in Fort Leavenworth.

[DeadMan]

Even if those patriotic pigs deserve to die, suicide is a bad thing to see. I don't like the idea of being that soldier, forced to war, then be left there with hardly no media coverage anymore (simply 'today in iraq this happened...now to sports') and then to find out that you are being killed while half the world hates you and the other half simply doesn't care anymore...kinda sad. But the more that number goes up, the more of a reason to show that Bush was a fucking idiot for wanting Iraq.

DeadMan.

[BOZG]

A report in an Irish paper a month or so back, suggested that the number of suicides among US troops is significantly higher, nearing the 100 mark with numerous more "suspicious" deaths which have not been officially considered suicide.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 12:17 AM
A report in an Irish paper a month or so back, suggested that the number of suicides among US troops is significantly higher, nearing the 100 mark with numerous more "suspicious" deaths which have not been officially considered suicide.
That wouldnt suprise me at all. The U$ isnt friends with the truth.

[BOZG]

Unfortunately I cannot find the article, I was sure I had kept it so I can't give the exact numbers it specified.

[Guerilla22]

Whatever the number, it's sad to see even one soldier committ suicide. These soldiers mainly joined the army to get college money and they also tend to not be studious enough to realize that they are pawns serving Bush and his coprorate bed buddies.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

stupidity is not an excuse. There are moral reasons for not joining the U$ army, dont they have morals?

[Guerilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 10 2004, 01:25 AM
stupidity is not an excuse. There are moral reasons for not joining the U$ army, dont they have morals?
We must also reckoginize that alot of those of lesser intelligence are easily influenced by the flag, and family propaganda and retoric of the Bush administration.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

yes, is bush says you are unpatriotic if you dont do everything he says, they will do it because of that stupid flag, they put that fucking thing everywhere, whats their fucking problem?

[DeadMan]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:41 PM
yes, is bush says you are unpatriotic if you dont do everything he says, they will do it because of that stupid flag, they put that fucking thing everywhere, whats their fucking problem?
I don't know. There fucking morons that think the flag is a sign of power and supremecy...you know, Hitler put his flags everywhere too.

I've been out and about and I haven't even see a Canadian flag in like 3 days lol. That's just how little we care about our flag. Yah. it's cool and all but we don't beleive it represents something except Canada. It's not like we think we are better then anyone lol.

DeadMan.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

maybe the next people who arnt american when they go to the moon can put a Nazi flag next to the yankee one.


same fucking differant right!?

[BuyOurEverything]

stupidity is not an excuse. There are moral reasons for not joining the U$ army, dont they have morals?

Huge amounts of kids are forced into the army by economic conditions. Their families aren't rich so they can't afford college so they have no future. Their only choices are either working 14 hour 6 days a week in a factory for their rest of your lives or joining the military for a couple years and getting their tuition payed for. The government doesn't even need to institute the draft to force people into the military anymore. All they need to do is deregulate universities so they raise their tuitions to unattainable levels and then provide free tuition to anyone who enlists. It's a sad state of affairs. There's an army/marines enlistment centre just across from Hot Topic and the local mall.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Its a sick sad world we live in these days.

But at least i dont live in the U$A.

They really dont care about the people.

Education should be free.

Its always about the money.

You got to work till you die.

Especially for those in the army.

Its just 1 big lie.

I dont want to work 12 hours a day.

6 days a week

No paid holiday.

[Commie Girl]

:D check out www.michaelmoore.com and see all the letters posted there by soldiers in Iraq.

[BOZG]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 11:18 PM
maybe the next people who arnt american when they go to the moon can put a Nazi flag next to the yankee one.


same fucking differant right!?
Seeing as the USA is neither a Nazi nor fascist state, there would be a huge difference.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

would you recognise a joke if it hit you on the head?

[Kez]

the thing with u rob is that no1 knows if what ur writing is a joke, or ur usual bullshit

[ComradeRobertRiley]

fuck you

[BOZG]

Robert,

There are so many reactionary fuckers who think George Bush is a nazi on this site that it's hard to see what's a joke and what's believed to be real.

[ComradeRobertRiley]

Acknowledged comrade

[Chewillneverdie]

lol its a family pastime for me, war is my thing, so is revolution. Back to my irish roots we fought against the brits. Tho i am directly related to Lief Ericcson and Eric the Red lol. MAN THOSE GUYS HAD COOL HATS!! but think about it, money, recognition, free college, seems like a damn good deal. Seeing as how all you gotta do is not be infantry and you got it made

[Individual]

Wait, so now you want to join the fuckin US military? I thought you were shipping off with the Zapististas? Hopefully for the last time, do you not know who you have as your avatar, and in your name. And you are talking about how good the US military is. Please do yourself a favor and listen to myself, and many others who tell you, change your avatar and your name. This is for your own sake to so that maybe, along with learning to think before you speak, you will learn that you sound like a US politician with all of the contradictions that leave the mouth of yours. Everytime I read a post of yours I am blown away.

[FlightOfTheYuriGagarin]

maybe this is why communists should operate within the ranks of the army? instead of suicide, these soldiers would turn to the communists (even American soldiers would rather turn to communism than suicide, just though...) who could direct them what to do, and the possibilities are endless, they could just stop shooting, and give information to the public about how bankrupt (in moral and values) the army is as a tool of the state, as a result, weakening the workers faith in capitalism.


Very clever idea, sadly though, the U$ Army usually consults overpaid psychologists concerning suicide issues. However, a very good coping mechanism would be to embrace a political ideology. I'm not talking only communism but for the sake of freedom of choice, anarchism, libertarianism, ect. That would actually be a great idea. A problem though is getting soldiers to embrace the fact that the army is really an overpowered tool of the state. Much like trying to teach police officers that the police really are a mechanism for the distribution of situationally justified force in society (Bittner).

Nice idea comrade.

[Guerilla22]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 10:51 PM

stupidity is not an excuse. There are moral reasons for not joining the U$ army, dont they have morals?

Huge amounts of kids are forced into the army by economic conditions. Their families aren't rich so they can't afford college so they have no future. Their only choices are either working 14 hour 6 days a week in a factory for their rest of your lives or joining the military for a couple years and getting their tuition payed for. The government doesn't even need to institute the draft to force people into the military anymore. All they need to do is deregulate universities so they raise their tuitions to unattainable levels and then provide free tuition to anyone who enlists. It's a sad state of affairs. There's an army/marines enlistment centre just across from Hot Topic and the local mall.
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