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TheEmancipator
6th May 2013, 21:06
Right, I refuse to try to debate against fascists most of the time, so I'm a bit confused about the differences they have in their ideologies.

Firstly, why do they have a difference between the Ultra-Nationalist tendency and the Nationalist Socialist ("Revolutionary") tendency? I was told these two factions actually hate each other and everything. Obviously we oppose both, but which one of these would you say is the most dangerous? I heard the National Front gang (linked to parties across Europe) are obviously the most popular around Europe, and the fact that they obscure their casual racism means they are a serious threat (see France).

Also, what is Strasserism and why do some regard it as a left-wing ideology? Isn't it just Hitler's economic and political model without the jew hating? Should this be considered a form of fascism?

Finally, I know this has been discussed before but is Ba'athism a form of fascism or should it be supported for its secular and mildly socialist reforms? Why do some people call it a left-wing ideology?

Obviously the experts on this are over at Scumfront, but I don't wish to frequent an internet shithole...

Broviet Union
6th May 2013, 21:42
Strasserism is Left-National Socialism, in that it has much more focus on workers and the end of capitalism.

It is not "Left", only on the Left wing of the Far Right spectrum, in the same way, for example, that there is Right Communism.

Comrade #138672
13th May 2013, 14:38
The problem with Strasserism is that even though it may be "well-intentioned", it aids the development of Fascism. In the end, the Nazis simply disposed of the Strasserists. They served their purpose and were getting in the way.

Flying Purple People Eater
13th May 2013, 14:46
The problem with Strasserism is that even though it may be "well-intentioned".

Almost every political faction in the world can claim to be 'well intentioned'. The Strasserites were racist, white-supremacist, fascistic dogs who looked to the working class as a recruitment pool.

It's not like the nazis didn't rip off leftist rhetoric, empty it of any substance and fill it with their bile in order to entice as many people as possible. The strasserists were of the same nature.

The Idler
13th May 2013, 21:38
Anyone can call themselves a workers party and even carry out the wishes of the majority of the working-class (nationalisation etc.). Catering to workers prejudices can be described as tailism and has nothing to do with actually acting in working-class interests.