Syrian Rebels Used Sarin Gas?

[Paul Pott]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSBRE94409Z20130505

What we should have expected all along.

[KurtFF8]

This means that the "red line" has been crossed. I expect NATO forces to soon ally with Assad and begin a campaign against the rebels

[Sir Comradical]

What more can one expect from a gang of fanatical psychopath criminals?

[Deity]

This means that the "red line" has been crossed. I expect NATO forces to soon ally with Assad and begin a campaign against the rebels

If the politicians kept there word that would be what we should honestly be expecting!:laugh:

[Geiseric]

What more can one expect from a gang of fanatical psychopath criminals?

If Assad used them would you say the same thing?

[Sir Comradical]

If Assad used them would you say the same thing?

If they were used against the terrorists, I'd be okay with that.

[Geiseric]

If they were used against the terrorists, I'd be okay with that.

Wow you're a pig. You know they called Lenin a terrorist right?

[Sir Comradical]

Wow you're a pig. You know they called Lenin a terrorist right?

Don't compare Comrade Lenin to these Saudi/Qatari/Turkish/NATO/Israeli backed Free Syrian Army terrorists, you fucking degenerate.

[Geiseric]

Don't compare Comrade Lenin to these Saudi/Qatari/Turkish/NATO/Israeli backed Free Syrian Army terrorists, you fucking degenerate.

When you are chemical bombed by the government of whatever country you live in, they'll call you a terrorist and people not unlike you won't give two shits. Get off this forum you bourgeois statist scum.

[Sasha]

keep it civil all, no name calling, no flaming (yes, i know i'm not much better a lot of times but you know, try to keep it civil) verbalish warning allround or something

[Slavoj Zizek's Balls]

Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the victim has difficulty breathing and experiences nausea and drooling. As the victim continues to lose control of bodily functions, the victim vomits, defecates and urinates. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the victim becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of tolulope spasms.

This is another example of why things need to change. I can't believe that some people have the nerve/desire to use sarin (unintentional pun).

[TomVine92]

When you are chemical bombed by the government of whatever country you live in, they'll call you a terrorist and people not unlike you won't give two shits. Get off this forum you bourgeois statist scum.

But they are funded by the West. Not that I support Assad by the way, just saying be careful about supporting the FSA. Remember what happened with the Mujahideen?

[Brutus]

But they are funded by the West. Not that I support Assad by the way, just saying be careful about supporting the FSA. Remember what happened with the Mujahideen?

History repeats itself

[TomVine92]

History repeats itself

Not according to Marx ;)1

[TomVine92]

History repeats itself

But I see what you're saying. History within the confines of capitalism definitely does repeat itself

[Geiseric]

But they are funded by the West. Not that I support Assad by the way, just saying be careful about supporting the FSA. Remember what happened with the Mujahideen?

The majority of the Fsa only accepted things like medical supplies and food; the Islamists are a couple thousand out of at least fifty thousand rebels. The ex head of the FSA outright denied any political and military support from NATO. This is a civil war not a proxy war. Nato and Russia are trying to make it a war but are failing since Syrians have half a brain

Assad gets MiG helicopters from Russia. His tanks crushed the intifada, so you are the one who needs to read about more recent history.

[Brutus]

Not according to Marx ;)1

May I draw your attention the to the 18th Brumaire of Louis Napoleon?

[Comrade Nasser]

Russia, Iran, alot of the population, the PFLP, and the Shia Hezbollah Militia are at Assads beck and call. They will definitely not let him go down without a fight. If NATO intervenes to join the rebels Russia, Iran, PFLP and hezbollah (hezbollah already has many fighters on the southern border of syria and they're have been small clashes with them and the FSA) will intervene as well, but not just weapons and training. I think they will send ground troops in to help Assad.

[Deity]

Russia, Iran, alot of the population, the PFLP, and the Shia Hezbollah Militia are at Assads beck and call. They will definitely not let him go down without a fight. If NATO intervenes to join the rebels Russia, Iran, PFLP and hezbollah (hezbollah already has many fighters on the southern border of syria and they're have been small clashes with them and the FSA) will intervene as well, but not just weapons and training. I think they will send ground troops in to help Assad.

Hasn't Iran already said they are offering "unlimited support" or something along those lines? After the Israeli strikes it won't even take a NATO intervention to get Assad more International backing.

[Comrade Nasser]

Hasn't Iran already said they are offering "unlimited support" or something along those lines? After the Israeli strikes it won't even take a NATO intervention to get Assad more International backing.

If i'm not mistaken Iran may have troops there (probably to train the ill-equipped and under-trained pro-government militiamen loyal to Assad) and Hezbollah (whose gunmen are loyal to Assad as they are Shia Muslims and Mr. Al-Assad is an Alawite which is an offshoot of Shia Islam) has been on the ground especially there in the southern regions such as near homs and on the Lebanese border attacking the Sunni FSA rebels as they see them as a threat to the Shias and Alawites of Lebanon & Syria. They've conducted excercises and operations with Mr. Al-Assad's army inside of Syria and on the Lebanese border to help them flush out FSA on the border

Heres a short video about it (since i'm a native Arabic Speaker and the subtitled anotations in the video aren't so good basically the Lebanese militiaman is saying something along the lines of why they are and taking up arms against the FSA rebels):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_zDmbWPuhg&list=FLjQKYdJkoExon_eu1bOq6KA

[Le Socialiste]

But they are funded by the West.

I would like a complete list of those brigades currently accepting 'funds' from the U.S. and its Western allies. Now, it is obvious to anyone with a Google search engine that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states are arming and supplying specific groups that are aligned with them along Islamist lines, but there are large swathes of the rebel movement that have explicitly rejected arms and 'funding' with such strings attached. As a result, they're being starved of resources, forcing many to resort to the black market to obtain basic necessities.


Not that I support Assad by the way, just saying be careful about supporting the FSA. Remember what happened with the Mujahideen?

That's quite the oversimplification. There are many differences between the rebels and the Mujahideen, namely the fact that they're not - on the whole - supported or otherwise backed by the U.S., nor are they all fundamentalist Islamists. In fact, Washington and its allies have restricted the flow of arms into Syria so that little more than light weapons make it through, hardly the heavy weaponry needed by the FSA in its effort to help oust Assad.

[Comrade Nasser]

Le Socialiste you got it bro.

Arming the rebels isn't a priority to the U.S. at the moment. They want to play their cards right. The weapons they are sending are mostly light assault rifles and sone RPGs while Assad has his hands on old soviet technology, armored BMPs, more troops, helicopters, tanks, alot of domestic support (mostly from minorities), Iranian troops (to fund, train his men, possibly fight), Hezbollah fighters aligned with him, some PFLP support, and Russia will probably be a key factor in keeping the Assad regime alive what with all the monetary and military aid he sends to Mr. Assad.

[The Intransigent Faction]

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Rebel apologists, eat your hearts out!

Of course the 'rebels' are Western-backed, regardless of any public, official statements by either side. Anyone who thinks otherwise forgets history pretty easily. Denial is basically damage control, because it's pretty clear the public is no longer going to buy the "freedom fighter" story.

I should emphasize that I am not a supporter of Assad. He's not exactly a friend of the left, to put it lightly. That doesn't mean I don't recognize the rebels for what they are. If you thought prospects for a workers' revolution in Syria were bad before the place was flooded with foreign religious extremists, just imagine how much worse they'll be with guys like this running around.