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Dear Leader
5th May 2013, 14:56
I came across an article by Maurice Brinton, a member of the french Solidarity group. The article goes into the Russian Revolution from 1917-1921, but I just wanted to get into the question he raises.

Workers' control vs workers' self management.

What is the difference to you guys, is there a difference, is one better than the other? Thanks!:)

Die Neue Zeit
5th May 2013, 15:24
Neither. "Workers control" doesn't grasp the limitations of "control," and "self-management" implies more a workplace administration than a societal one. In both cases, the worst-case scenario is parochial production only for the immediate needs of the workplace employees, and no other stakeholder.

Dear Leader
5th May 2013, 15:55
Neither. "Workers control" doesn't grasp the limitations of "control," and "self-management" implies more a workplace administration than a societal one. In both cases, the worst-case scenario is parochial production only for the immediate needs of the workplace employees, and no other stakeholder.
Who are the other stakeholders? Isn't that assuming that the workers are unable to make good/correct decisions of production themselves?

Sea
6th May 2013, 01:00
Think: An egalitarian society vs a co-op in a capitalist society.