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BTMFPHumanStrike
26th April 2013, 08:00
i suppose i should introduce myself.

hi. im into non-marxist notions of communism. i also really like reading carl schmitt.

Q
26th April 2013, 08:13
Welcome :)

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BTMFPHumanStrike
26th April 2013, 19:33
Thanks! What is the criteria for moderators approving posts? Ive tried to post a few times but only one post has been approved...

Q
26th April 2013, 20:07
Thanks! What is the criteria for moderators approving posts? Ive tried to post a few times but only one post has been approved...

I approve pretty much everything, besides explicit trolls and stuff.

It's just that when your postcount is below 10, all your posts will be moderated. And yes, your postcount is still 0, because posts in the non-political forums are not counted.

Sidagma
26th April 2013, 20:15
howdy!

what kinda non-marxist stuff ya talkin?

Q
26th April 2013, 20:44
Actually, reading the wiki page on Carl Schmitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt), I'm kinda wondering what kind of "communism" you're talking about, or why you even joined.

Could you elaborate on that?

JPSartre12
26th April 2013, 20:46
Welcome to the forum comrade. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

l'Enfermé
26th April 2013, 20:59
Why would you mention, in your very short introduction on a revolutionary socialist forum, that you "really like" reading a notorious anti-semitic and card-carrying Nazi philosopher, unless you are a troll?

Os Cangaceiros
26th April 2013, 21:05
Actually, reading the wiki page on Carl Schmitt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt), I'm kinda wondering what kind of "communism" you're talking about, or why you even joined.

Could you elaborate on that?

I had never heard of this guy before, but according to this:


Schmitt published several essays, influential in the 20th century and beyond, on the mentalities that surround the effective wielding of political power. His ideas have attracted the attention of numerous philosophers and political theorists, including Walter Benjamin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin), Leo Strauss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss), Jacques Derrida (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida), Étienne Balibar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tienne_Balibar), Hannah Arendt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt), Giorgio Agamben (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_Agamben), Antonio Negri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Negri), Gianfranco Miglio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianfranco_Miglio), Paolo Virno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_Virno), Slavoj Žižek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavoj_%C5%BDi%C5%BEek), Alain Badiou (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Badiou), Jacob Taubes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Taubes), Gillian Rose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillian_Rose), Chantal Mouffe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantal_Mouffe), Eric Voegelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Voegelin), Reinhart Koselleck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhart_Koselleck), Álvaro d'Ors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81lvaro_d%27Ors), Ernst Jünger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_J%C3%BCnger), Alain de Benoist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_de_Benoist), and Paul Gottfried (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gottfried). Much of his work, especially from the Weimar period, remains both influential and controversial today.

he seems to be a pretty damn influential figure for hipster communists and post-modernists.

L.A.P.
26th April 2013, 22:34
more from wikipedia:


Although there have been divergent interpretations concerning this work, there is broad agreement that "The Concept of the Political" is an attempt to achieve state unity by defining the content of politics as opposition to the "other" (that is to say, an enemy, a stranger. This applies to any person or entity that represents a serious threat or conflict to one's own interests.) In addition, the prominence of the state stands as a neutral force over potentially fractious civil society, whose various antagonisms must not be allowed to reach the level of the political, lest civil war result


Schmitt criticized the institutional practices of liberal politics, arguing that they are justified by a faith in rational discussion and openness that is at odds with actual parliamentary party politics, in which outcomes are hammered out in smoke-filled rooms by party leaders. Schmitt also posits an essential division between the liberal doctrine of separation of powers and what he holds to be the nature of democracy itself, the identity of the rulers and the ruled

so the guy kind of knew what he was talking about but was still for maintaining bourgeois soicety by any means necessary. i think it's one of those big myths that if someone is enlightened about the nature of society then they will become some revolutionary/progressive outraged with the order of things....or they could just keep that in mind when trying to climb the ladder

BTMFPHumanStrike
27th April 2013, 00:20
I approve pretty much everything, besides explicit trolls and stuff.

It's just that when your postcount is below 10, all your posts will be moderated. And yes, your postcount is still 0, because posts in the non-political forums are not counted.

alright. thanks for the clarification.


howdy!

what kinda non-marxist stuff ya talkin?

Mostly what people would consider "hipster communism." But I'm also very interested in early Utopian Socialists, the religious communes that existed in the early part of American history, and Blanqui as well as Bonanno, Camatte, and the role that illegalists like the Bonnot Gang have in a communist/revolutionary movement.

While I don't consider myself anti-marxist, I prefer to stay away from the vulgar economics that marxism tends to lends itself to. I guess I just appreciate drawing from a large and diverse body of ideas rather than limiting myself to one particular tendency or identity.


Actually, reading the wiki page on Carl Schmitt, I'm kinda wondering what kind of "communism" you're talking about, or why you even joined.

Could you elaborate on that?

I'm not a fascist, nor do I sympathize with fascists, if that's what you're asking.

But as far as communism goes, I am into the idea that communism must be the immediate nature of the revolution, but also that it is necessary to experiment with various ways of living communism in here-and-now that seek to avoid the alternativism of hippie drop-out culture by understanding these experiments with modes of living as being directly connected to the need to fight capitalism/the state in both situations of mass revolt (in periods of escalating conflict) as well as through adventurist activities (in periods of counter-insurrection and repression).

I joined because I want to discuss ideas and current events with others.




Why would you mention, in your very short introduction on a revolutionary socialist forum, that you "really like" reading a notorious anti-semitic and card-carrying Nazi philosopher, unless you are a troll?

Well... I admit I added that primarily to see what peoples' reactions would be :P
But I do genuinely enjoy reading Schmitt. Aside from him being a beautiful writer, I think he has a very clear view of what the state is, what the role of politics is, and how law functions, that, while I am obviously on the opposing side, I find to be very useful. I have also just started really getting into his writings, so as I progress through more of his books, I'm sure I'll be able to give a much detailed explanation of precisely what I find useful about his thought.

I have no insecurities about what side I'm on, and so, I am able to read the ideas of my enemies without any fear of being swayed to the other side. I am also really into reading things on counter-insurgency and policing. I think it necessary for any serious revolutionary to have an understanding of how the enemy perceives the world, and I often find that they generally lay it all out without a lot of the explicit ideological baggage that plagues a lot of leftist/ultra-leftist thought.


more from wikipedia:





so the guy kind of knew what he was talking about but was still for maintaining bourgeois soicety by any means necessary. i think it's one of those big myths that if someone is enlightened about the nature of society then they will become some revolutionary/progressive outraged with the order of things....or they could just keep that in mind when trying to climb the ladder

Yeah, he was a fucking fascist, absolutely. His entire goal was the preservation of order. And I agree with you about the myth of "enlightening" people (although I'm not entirely sure what you are speaking to with this), but as I said early in this post, I find it important to understand my enemies. Carl Schmitt just happens to be a very interesting and well-written enemy.

The Douche
27th April 2013, 14:19
You dropped Schmitt's name like people here would actually recognize it.:lol:

L.A.P.
27th April 2013, 15:55
I am also really into reading things on counter-insurgency and policing.

David Galula?


(although I'm not entirely sure what you are speaking to with this

I once knew this rich kid who said: "it's like corporate america has this piece of meat that they keep for themselves and give scraps to everyone else"

me: "well, didn't you say you want to be a businessman or politician?"

him: "oh, i'd rather be a part of that anyday, wouldn't you?"

BTMFPHumanStrike
30th April 2013, 08:58
You dropped Schmitt's name like people here would actually recognize it.:lol:
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