Come and criticize me

[Philosophos]

I don't really know if the title is very accurate, but what I want you to do is to criticize some of my views that I'm not sure if they are correct if I want to be a true communist (not sexist, not racist etc). So here we go:

-I've seen some of the rape-supporting threads and I'm not quite sure about lot's of my beliefs on the subject. I like to having rough sex and some of my girlfriends also liked it. Lots of sexologists are sayingg that this is something normal, people are trying to find what they like etc. I also had girlfriends that never actually liked the whole "hardcore-almost porn" sex and it never really bothered me when I was having normal/romantic with extra kisses sex.
Does that make me a rape apologist/supporter?

-I'm not quite sure about this thing but the I've met some "feminists" (I'm using quotes because I think they are not really feminists but idiots) and I had some conversations with them. They thought that men are pigs and they should become something like the woman of the '20's (being a victim, not being able to go outside the house, being hit etc). I believe this is bullshit, it's like saying because gay people couldn't get married anywhere now we have to make heterosexual wedding illegal too. Hmmmm what about both straight and gay people getting married?
I believe that feminism is supposed to stop the whole inequality between men and women, not making the inequality in favor of women...

-I also believe that nations are something good. Now I'm sure I'm going to get jumped over this subject but try to understand what I'm saying and what I mean as nation. The nation is not supposed to be the borders of a country, it's not supposed to be the people inside a country, it's supposed to be the culture (the language, the way of living etc). The nation as the different culture is something very nice. I can understand that because I learned english and french. Since I learned these languages I can now understand their culture, their way of thinking and I made myself a better person because for example french people had an opinion that was very appealing for me. The nation is not this nationalist bullshit that capitalists have made.
If you still believe this is wrong feel free to say it :grin:.


I might think of some more while time passes. Please don't start the whole "whoaaa what the hell man! You're are visionistosectarianocapitalistopropagandist". As I said I'm not sure about these views and I want to see if I'm in a good or a bad way.

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Before I start, I'd like to throw in a Mao quote to lighten the mood around here:


Conscientious practice of self-criticism is still another hallmark distinguishing our Party from all other political parties. As we say, dust will accumulate if a room is not cleaned regularly, our faces will get dirty if they are not washed regularly. Our comrades' minds and our Party's work may also collect dust, and also need sweeping and washing. The proverb "Running water is never stale and a door-hinge is never worm-eaten" means that constant motion prevents the inroads of germs and other organisms. To check up regularly on our work and in the process develop a democratic style of work, to fear neither criticism nor self-criticism, and to apply such good popular Chinese maxims as "Say all you know and say it without reserve", "Blame not the speaker but be warned by his words" and "Correct mistakes if you have committed them and guard against them if you have not" - this is the only effective way to prevent all kinds of political dust and germs from contaminating the minds of our comrades and the body of our Party.


So with that in mind I'd like to say that I don't blame you as an individual if you've internalized some patriarcy because it happens to the best of us, we all live in a capitalist world and there is no denying that we are all tainted by the "mock of the old society" to use Marx's phrase. So I have no hostile intentions here. The fact that you've stepped forward and made this thread is good progress and a commendable thing in of it's self.




-I've seen some of the rape-supporting threads and I'm not quite sure about lot's of my beliefs on the subject. I like to having rough sex and some of my girlfriends also liked it. Lots of sexologists are sayingg that this is something normal, people are trying to find what they like etc. I also had girlfriends that never actually liked the whole "hardcore-almost porn" sex and it never really bothered me when I was having normal/romantic with extra kisses sex.
Does that make me a rape apologist/supporter?

Well the idea of "normal" is not static but rather based on what is normal for that society, and since we live in a patriarchal society I would say that "normal" in this sense does mean patriarchal.

Now I don't really know what to say about the hardcore sex bit because to be honest I haven't studied that issue in depth. I'm sure some other people can come in and help me there. But in the area of porn I'd say there is a distinction between porn and erotica. We all enjoy looking at images of the opposite (or same) sex and there is nothing wrong with that. What might be wrong is how these woman are being treated in these images and how are they being presented, and more importantly how these images affect your view of woman. So perhaps you should try thinking about how you interact with the opposite sex and how porn might affect that. Also there are 200 million slaves in the world and most of them work in the sex industry, so I'd suggest that you go use "cam whores" to use the vulgar term for your sexual needs rather than support an industry that is the modern eqivelent of cotton.



-I'm not quite sure about this thing but the I've met some "feminists" (I'm using quotes because I think they are not really feminists but idiots) and I had some conversations with them. They thought that men are pigs and they should become something like the woman of the '20's (being a victim, not being able to go outside the house, being hit etc). I believe this is bullshit, it's like saying because gay people couldn't get married anywhere now we have to make heterosexual wedding illegal too. Hmmmm what about both straight and gay people getting married?

The thing here is that to combat patriarcy, woman need to liberate themselves and be self-sufficient in their organization. So an anti-male outlook is productive in this way because patriarchy is a system that benefits males, much like the working class needs to struggle against capitalism with a firm class oriented outlook, and can not let foreign elements into it's struggle.

And as I've said, many woman are sex slaves, in the hundreds of millions. Life expectancy for woman in the US is falling, poverty is being feminized, and the thread of rape imposes a military style curfew on woman, so I think that we need to avoid the positivist "it's gotten better" rhetoric because while in many ways it has gotten better, in many ways it's gotten worse.



I believe that feminism is supposed to stop the whole inequality between men and women, not making the inequality in favor of women...


Feminism needs to abolish the categories of male and female and the social construct of gender, to do so it must systematically and firmly destroy their roots, and those roots are in patriarchy which in the end benefits men. It has little to do with "equality". The whole rhetoric of egalitarianism is counter productive because what is really needed is a complete and radical overhall of gender, not "equal" genders.


I also believe that nations are something good. Now I'm sure I'm going to get jumped over this subject but try to understand what I'm saying and what I mean as nation. The nation is not supposed to be the borders of a country, it's not supposed to be the people inside a country, it's supposed to be the culture (the language, the way of living etc). The nation as the different culture is something very nice. I can understand that because I learned english and french. Since I learned these languages I can now understand their culture, their way of thinking and I made myself a better person because for example french people had an opinion that was very appealing for me. The nation is not this nationalist bullshit that capitalists have made.


National culture creates a sense of social cohesion that enforces hetronormitivity. It creates a set of standards that individuals are asked to conform to. Now that isn't wrong in of it's self, but as revolutionaries we need to ask if these value systems are progressive are not, and I would say that they are not and ought to be replaced with radical value systems that favor freedom and socialism.

And also, the nation is a relationship to the world capitalist system. National oppression is rooted in this system and the struggle against capitalism must be fought as the struggle against nationalist oppression just like it needs to be the struggle against sexism, racism, and the capitalist class. So nationalism can be progressive depending on the context of that nation's position in the world imperialist system, or reactionary.

[goalkeeper]

whatever man as long as your girlfriends down with rough sex and you don't do anything she doesn't want to also do who cares what American moonbats on the internet think. You're Greek, you have actual class struggle going on unlike America so you don't have to worry about this activist-ghetto nonsense

I don't know what your on about in your second thing though and i cba to talk about nationalism.

[Philosophos]

and more importantly how these images affect your view of woman


These images don't affect my view for women. I still see women as individuals and not some object that is made for the bedroom and the kitchen. Whenever someone talks about how he "owned" this or that girl I always tell them to shut the fuck up. Anyway I suppose this whole thing of hardcore sex from times to times is something psychological (maybe I want to be the ALPHA MALE from now and then but I'm going to find out since I'm going to study psychology).

Anyway thanks your answers were good even though you are not sure about them and don't worry I made this thread to be criticized I won't get offended as long as you point out what my mistakes are.