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Comrade #138672
10th April 2013, 16:52
There are quite some people who know something is wrong with the system, but who seem to be unable to attribute the failings to Capitalism itself. Instead they blame the banks, and specifically interests. Although they may not be Nazis themselves, it is part of the basics of Nazism. Nazis used it to justify their attacks on the Jews.

Now I would like to know how to demonstrate to these people that it is, in fact, Capitalism which they are after. Although I am not always sure whether they want to know. It seems that most of these people are content enough with Capitalism as long as they are not heavily proletarianized. If this is true, then are they "naturally" inclined towards Fascism?

tuwix
11th April 2013, 06:17
Perharps you should say that the only system without banks is that without money? :)

ckaihatsu
11th April 2013, 07:58
There are quite some people who know something is wrong with the system, but who seem to be unable to attribute the failings to Capitalism itself. Instead they blame the banks, and specifically interests. Although they may not be Nazis themselves, it is part of the basics of Nazism. Nazis used it to justify their attacks on the Jews.

Now I would like to know how to demonstrate to these people that it is, in fact, Capitalism which they are after. Although I am not always sure whether they want to know. It seems that most of these people are content enough with Capitalism as long as they are not heavily proletarianized. If this is true, then are they "naturally" inclined towards Fascism?


I'd say not necessarily -- they sound like the 'anti-corporatism' types, and therefore libertarian (escapist), or even as far left as Occupy radical types.

Daily life and contemporary living can cause people to rationalize the existence of capitalism and the markets, leading to political dependency on nationalism, and therefore cognitive dissonance (conflict of interests) when it comes to *talking about* or conceptualizing potential alternatives to the status quo. Their ingrained mental habits lead them to increasingly identify with the nation and the markets, cognitively displacing systemic problems in the real-world onto anything else *but* capitalism -- as you're noting this can feed into harmful racial attitudes, etc.

Maybe ask them if the history of human endeavor to-date has advanced far along enough, to the point where we as a whole world could take the system of economics off of 'auto-pilot' and start to plan it on a fully conscious, mass basis....