Energized Water - Welcome to Good Health

[ckaihatsu]

Energized Water - Welcome to Good Health

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2604291&postcount=8

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That will do absolutely jack for your health (unless you're hungover, a bit of salt is good for that, better to just drink Gatorade, though, than use that contraption). Water can't hold an electrical charge in the way you're trying to imply, so literally all you'll be doing is drinking saltwater.

However, this little device is useful for one thing. It demonstrates what electrolysis is at about a 6th grade level. An electric current passes through saline and hydrogen/chlorine gases escape.

More information for you child's next science project: http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/projects/split_h2o.html


ckaihatsu, serious question. Did you pay attention in your middle/high school science classes at all? Why do you keep posting this shit?

[ckaihatsu]

That will do absolutely jack for your health (unless you're hungover, a bit of salt is good for that,


Okay, then try it *without* the salt -- the process just takes longer, then.





better to just drink Gatorade, though, than use that contraption).


"Contraption" -- nice hyperbole there, as though it were some towering, complicated, rusting machinery bursting out of all sides of a factory building that no one has the owner's manual for.





Water can't hold an electrical charge in the way you're trying to imply, so literally all you'll be doing is drinking saltwater.


I *wasn't* implying that the water would hold an electrical charge -- note:





I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that there's a way to get the benefits of increased oxygenation without having to buy anything


The use of the electricity is to induce hydrolysis, making more oxygen available at the cellular level. I've compared this process to the use of hydrogen peroxide for the same purpose, at the linked post's thread.

The term 'energized water' is a shorthand.





However, this little device is useful for one thing. It demonstrates what electrolysis is at about a 6th grade level. An electric current passes through saline and hydrogen/chlorine gases escape.

More information for you child's next science project: http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/projects/split_h2o.html


Um, *yeah*.... Next time I'm ever in a 6th grade Canadian science classroom I'll be thinking of you.





ckaihatsu, serious question. Did you pay attention in your middle/high school science classes at all? Why do you keep posting this shit?


Well, fuck, I *was* going to link this up to the one I did before -- which you're obviously referencing -- about the vortexing of water for health benefits, but since you're so dismissive of anything helpful you're just going to have to ignore it:


Quick, cheap way to improve your health with common materials at home

http://www.revleft.com/vb/quick-cheap-way-t175831/index.html

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Except the "oxygenation" claim is patently false as well. The rudimentary electrolysis you're performing will create hydrogen and chlorine gases, and then hydroxyl. It will not release oxygen gas or magically dissolve oxygen gas in the water.

Also, there is no proven health benefit to ... drinking "oxygen". Aside from just the fact that drinking water is good for you. I'm not going to go bother checking the other thread, but in that thread do you suggest people ingest hydrogen peroxide? All that will do is:

A) Nothing if it's a tiny amount
B) Possibly a chemical burn on your fucking esophagus
C) Make you throw up


You are delusional

[ckaihatsu]

Except the "oxygenation" claim is patently false as well.


No, *you're* the one who's incorrect.





The rudimentary electrolysis you're performing will create hydrogen and chlorine gases, and then hydroxyl.


Say 'chlorine' again -- there are still a few in the back seats who aren't scared yet.

What's the chemical reaction you're supposedly referring to here?

If you're so concerned about alleged byproducts try using *distilled* water instead.





It will not release oxygen gas or magically dissolve oxygen gas in the water.


No "magic", dude -- proffering more lessons in the use of hyperbole, I see....

Recall how you just mentioned that this process *is* hydrolysis -- the products of which *are* oxygen and hydrogen gases.





Also, there is no proven health benefit to ... drinking "oxygen". Aside from just the fact that drinking water is good for you. I'm not going to go bother checking the other thread, but in that thread do you suggest people ingest hydrogen peroxide? All that will do is:

A) Nothing if it's a tiny amount
B) Possibly a chemical burn on your fucking esophagus
C) Make you throw up





When it comes to hydrogen peroxide therapy there seems to be only two points of view. Supporters consider it one of the greatest healing miracles of all time. Those opposed feel its ingestion is exceptionally dangerous, and only the foolhardy could think of engaging in such behavior. Before either condemning or endorsing hydrogen peroxide, let's take a real close look at what we're dealing with.




http://www.educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Please lay off the quack science, Kaihatsu. It's not doing you any good. Everything that espouses miraculous effects to some sort of simple thing without there being any good evidence is probably most likely a load of nonsense. Why do you display such an affinity for this sort of quack shit? Next up: Homoeopathy, magick crystals, seances and putting hands on people to cure them; bracelets to make you never get ill ever; ah, the wonders...

[ckaihatsu]

Please lay off the quack science, Kaihatsu.


Sheerly spurious characterization.





It's not doing you any good.


Do you really think I'm doing *any* of this at RevLeft to win a popularity contest -- ?!





Everything that espouses miraculous effects to some sort of simple thing without there being any good evidence is probably most likely a load of nonsense. Why do you display such an affinity for this sort of quack shit?


Yadda-yadda -- name-calling, willful ignorance, pre-conceived notions, facile reasoning, blithe dismissiveness....





Next up: Homoeopathy, magick crystals, seances and putting hands on people to cure them; bracelets to make you never get ill ever; ah, the wonders...


I *do* have my limits -- as I noted in the opening post at the 'Quick, cheap way to improve your health' thread:




The particular subculture(s) around this kind of thing may certainly give one pause, along with the garage-type commerciality, but all that aside, the merits can't be beat.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2524956&postcount=1

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Energized Water - Welcome to Good Health

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2604291&postcount=8

This again?

Hahahahahaha! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

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No, *you're* the one who's incorrect.

This isn't good for my blood pressure


Say 'chlorine' again -- there are still a few in the back seats who aren't scared yet.
That wasn't a scare tactic, it was an objective fact. The products of rudimentary hydrolysis are hydrogen and chlorine gases, and hydroxyl. There is no oxygen gas released using this thing you've built. Again, if you'd paid attention to your middle and high school science classes you'd have realized this long ago.



What's the chemical reaction you're supposedly referring to here?
fucking hydrolysis



If you're so concerned about alleged byproducts try using *distilled* water instead.
H2O alone is a poor conductor and will require an electrolyte - like table salt - to conduct electricity more efficiently. Again, did you even pay attention in middle school science?



No "magic", dude -- proffering more lessons in the use of hyperbole, I see....

Recall how you just mentioned that this process *is* hydrolysis -- the products of which *are* oxygen and hydrogen gases.
I've already linked you to a childs web site giving a quick intro to hydrolysis that contradicts what you just said right here.


And that last link - you're using a conspiracy theory web site to try and push 'health claims'. What in the name of fuck? It even has a section on how to avoid alien abduction and a section on climate change denial.

[ckaihatsu]

This isn't good for my blood pressure


Then chill out, skip the salt, and have a glass of vortexed, energized water.





That wasn't a scare tactic, it was an objective fact. The products of rudimentary hydrolysis are hydrogen and chlorine gases, and hydroxyl. There is no oxygen gas released using this thing you've built. Again, if you'd paid attention to your middle and high school science classes you'd have realized this long ago.




I've already linked you to a childs web site giving a quick intro to hydrolysis that contradicts what you just said right here.





What's the chemical reaction you're supposedly referring to here?





fucking hydrolysis


Hey, don't worry about it -- I got this one:





Electrolysis of water is the decomposition of water (H2O) into oxygen (O2) and hydrogen gas (H2) due to an electric current being passed through the water.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/Electrolysis.svg/220px-Electrolysis.svg.png





H2O alone is a poor conductor and will require an electrolyte - like table salt - to conduct electricity more efficiently. Again, did you even pay attention in middle school science?





The use of the electricity is to induce hydrolysis, making more oxygen available at the cellular level.




Okay, then try it *without* the salt -- the process just takes longer, then.





And that last link - you're using a conspiracy theory web site to try and push 'health claims'. What in the name of fuck? It even has a section on how to avoid alien abduction and a section on climate change denial.


I'm not "pushing" anything -- you're taking some kind of personal offense from all of this, which can't be helped, obviously. Either get your facts straight and try it out for yourself, or don't.

[Luís Henrique]

If you want to drink oxygen dissolved in water, just shake water violently, this should dissolve some air into it.

Prepare for some farting, though...

Luís Henrique

[ckaihatsu]

If you want to drink oxygen dissolved in water, just shake water violently, this should dissolve some air into it.

Prepare for some farting, though...

Luís Henrique


My understanding is that the vortexing technique does this, too, however one can manage to do it. (If enough quantity of water is done at one time it will make a noticeable change in the texture and 'sparkliness' of the water.)

[Crixus]

If you want to drink oxygen dissolved in water, just shake water violently, this should dissolve some air into it.

Prepare for some farting, though...

Luís Henrique


Being a man of leisure I prefer mine shaken not stirred but in the end I don't really give a damn.
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I am drunk and you are one weird motherfucker ckaihatsu

[ckaihatsu]

I am drunk and you are one weird motherfucker ckaihatsu


'Unconventional', like my politics.

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no just weird

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I always knew my doctor was full of shit, thanks for the trans-dimensional space water recipe ckaihatsu

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isn't denying climate change or supporting those who do a restrictable offense? by the way, you sound like my hippie-ass sister in law who believes in fairies and pays a psychic to align her chakras.

[ckaihatsu]

Hey, it ain't pretty, so it's worth putting up with some mudslinging....