nazi-maoism

[ed miliband]

been a lot of chat about national-bolshevism, national-anarchism and so on over the years. this seems to have slipped under the radar however:

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi-maoismo

my italian isn't any good, google translate is even worse. i found this, in english, about one of the movement's key people, claudio mutti:


1) "The publisher, Claudio Mutti, is a prominent member of the Italian far right. An admirer of Islamic fundamentalism and Franco Freda's brand of armed right-wing terrorism to provoke revolution, Mutti styles himself a 'Nazi Maoist'. His own imprint, Veltro, offers a wide range of books on symbolism, tradition, golden age myths, paganism and Islam, together with works by Nazis and fascists, including Horia Sima, Corneliu Codreanu, Robert Brasillach, and Holocaust denial texts. Steeped in the anti-modernist sentiment of Julius Evola, Mutti is drawn to the works of Traditionalists René Guenon and Frithof Schuon as a negation of the secular world. As a Muslim convert and a Third Positionist, Mutti combines anti-Semitism with anti-westernism, mirrored in his editions of Rûhollâh Khomeini, the Iranian mujâhidîn and its declarations of Holy War against the infidels." (the text goes on to discuss his theory that Hitler was "a Universal Restorer of a pristine order" etc.) - in Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity, NYU Press, 2003, p.104-105
2) Mutti as a "radical Islamist", "one-time follower of Evola's follower Franco Freda, the proponent of armed spontaneity", a disciple of Colonel Quaddafi and Khomeini, a proponent of jihad against the modern world. This about his status in academia: "Mutti [...] lost his job at the University of Bologna and served a prison term for his terrorist activities"; "This translation of [Quaddafi's speeches] had been done by Mutti, presumably from French - Mutti, who had taught Hungarian and Romanian at the University of Bologna before his dismissal, does not know Arabic." Also: "Mutti is not known to have any significant personal following or to have engaged in any political or armed action after the 1980s. He is important, however, as one of the focal points in the late-twentieth century international network of Traditionalists, linking smaller Traditionalist groups in Romania, Hungary, Italy, France and Russia." - in Mark J. Sedgwick, Against the Modern World: Traditionalism and the Secrtet Intellectual History of the Twentieth Century, Oxford UP, 2004, p.260
3) More of the above, plus references to Mutti as "a Third Positionists", noted for his "anti-Semitism", "virulent anti-Westernism", "neofascist war against the profane West", and his own claims about a "spiritual dimension of Nazism" etc. - in Goodrick-Clarke's Hitler's Priestess, NYU Press, 1998, p.218
4) References to his activities in support of Libya, which included publishing Quaddafi (alongside the Protocols of the Elders of Zion...), founding the Lotta di Poppolo organization, whose name was chosen as a diversion, "because it did not carry any obvious rightist or fascist connotations; this would make it easier to woo left-wing students." Mutti's "bizarre political mutation in Italy known as Nazi-Maoism". His slogans are cited as "Long live the fascist dictatorship of the proletariat!", "Hitler and Mao united in struggle!" - Martin A. Lee, The Beast Reawakens: Fascism's Resurgence from Hitler's Spymasters to Today's Neo-Nazi Groups and Right-Wing Extremists, Routledge, 2000, p.183
I could go on and on, but I've lost the time and the interest for now. As one can see from the above, Mutti's only reputation is not as a scholar, but as a terrorist, fascist activist, virulent antisemite and diversionary figure. If I'm allowed to read between the line, I'd also add that he has a reputation for being morally bankrupt. And this man is used as a reference for the more controversial aspects of Lukács' career, when, at any point in his life, as far as can be discerned from proper references, Lukács was a more moderate and mainstream figure than Mutti.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGy%C3%B6rgy_Luk%C3%A1cs

and this:


Seeking to curry Kadafi's favor, university professor Claudio Mutti founded the Italian-Libyan Friendship Society. An inveterate neo-fascist propagandist, Mutti published Italian translations of various screeds, including the anti-Semitic forgery, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," and Kadafi's own manifesto, the "Green Book." Curiously, Mutti also collaborated with a pro-Chinese student group, which set the stage for a bizarre political mutation in Italy known as "Nazi-Maoism." Influenced by Mutti, a small band of Italian extremists adopted a seemingly incongruous set of heroes--Hitler, Mao, Kadafi and Peron.

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/aug/13/opinion/op-3534/2

lol? anyone know anything more about "nazi-maoism"? is it a real thing?

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

Well, the first gay marriage in the Philippines was within the Communist Party of the Philippines (MLM) so I don't know where these guys are coming from.

[Rurkel]

He appears to have some connection to Alexandr Dugin, a Russian promoter of similar "anti-'atlanticist' Tradition" crap.

[Raúl Duke]

In this post-modern age, you can make up whatever ideology and believe all strange kinds of things and appear to be "something" because of the internet. Nazi-Maoism doesn't exist outside the minds of a few crazies and the dark recesses of the internet (like many other "things").

[ed miliband]

Well, the first gay marriage in the Philippines was withing the Communist Party of the Philippines (MLM) so I don't know where these guys are coming from.

i don't know what that has to do with anything, especially considering maoism hardly has a positive history with regards to the treatment of lgbtq people, and fascism can hardly be reduced to homophobia (indeed, i'd question whether it is a central tenet of it at all).

[ed miliband]

In this post-modern age, you can make up whatever ideology and believe all strange kinds of things and appear to be "something" because of the internet. Nazi-Maoism doesn't exist outside the minds of a few crazies and the dark recesses of the internet (like many other "things").

not that i disagree with the first part, but the first article seems to suggest it has its roots in the 70s/80s.

[Raúl Duke]

not that i disagree with the first part, but the first article seems to suggest it has its roots in the 70s/80s.

I guess in an intellectual sense, yes. But I find this similar to "anarcho-capitalism" from Rothbard. It has pre-internet origins, but both now Nazi-Maoism and Anarcho-Capitalism are virtually non-existent (and completely ineffective) super-fringe "movements."

It's just with the state of communications is now even the most insignificant thing (like people's opinions or silly notions) has a "presence" online; but it sometimes give this laughable illusion to others, particularly the 'gullible,' (maybe not the right word, but think about those US anarchists, at least this is the example I'm familiar with, who seem to think it's important we play nice/incorporate anarcho-capitalists in the praxis as if that even means 'something' in IRL terms) of a generalized presence.\

Of course, I'm not trying to dissuade you if you want to look further. Just don't want people to get the idea that nazi-maoists are a real threat (or even much a real thing). The real question would be I guess is if there's any Nazi-Maoist writer/theoreticians/ideologue (which is taken seriously and has I guess a sizable following in terms of the make up of the far-right) in our contemporary times (if they are, they're probably Italian. I can speak a bit and read a bit but not to the level of political works).

[Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist]

i don't know what that has to do with anything, especially considering maoism hardly has a positive history with regards to the treatment of lgbtq people, and fascism can hardly be reduced to homophobia (indeed, i'd question whether it is a central tenet of it at all).

The Maoist movement has treated the lgbt community better than a fair amount of other political movements and has consistently supported LGBT rights since Huey Newton declared his support for the stonewall riots and ordered his cadre to stop using the word "fag". Sure, there's been some misteps, but even Marx made gay jokes and Engel's hinted at some "scientific" homophobia in his On the Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State. So we have nothing to be ashamed of. Well there is the RCP-USA, but they were always shitty Maoists.

And although homophobia isn't a central component, racism is.


Mao Zedong

Oppose Radical Discrimmination
By U.S. Imperialism

August 8, 1963

[SOURCE: Peking Review No. 33, 1963.]

An American Negro leader now taking refuge in Cuba, Mr. Robert Williams, the former President of the Monroe, North Carolina, Chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People, has twice this year asked me for a statement in support of the American Negroes’ struggle against racial discrimmination. I wish to take this opportunity, on behalf of the Chinese people, to express our resolute support for the American Negroes in their struggle against racial discrimmination and for freedom and equal rights.

There are more than nineteen million Negroes in the United States, or about eleven per cent of the total population. Their position in society is one of enslavement, oppression and discrimmination. The overwhelming majority of the Negroes are deprived of their right to vote. On the whole it is only the most back-breaking and most despised jobs that are open to them. Their average wages are only from a third to a half of those of the white people. The ratio of unemployment among them is the highest. In many states they cannot go to the same school, eat at the same table, or travel in the same section of a bus or train with the white people. Negroes are frequently and arbitrarily arrested, beaten up and murdered by U.S. authorities at various levels and members of the Ku Klux Klan and other racists. About half of the American Negroes are concentrated in eleven states in the south of the United States. There, the discrimmination and prosecution they suffer are especially startling.

The American Negroes are awakening, and their resistance is growing ever stronger. In recent years the mass struggle of the American Negroes against racial discrimmination and for freedom and equal rights has been constantly developing.

In 1957 the Negro people in Little Rock, Arkansas, waged a fierce struggle against the barring of their children from public schools. The authorities used armed force against them, and there resulted the Little Rock incident which shocked the world.

In 1960 Negroes in more than twenty states held ‘sit in’ demonstrations in protest against racial segregation in local restaurants, shops and other public places.

In 1961 the Negroes launched a campaign of ‘freedom riders’ to oppose racial segregation in transport, a campaign which rapidly extended to many states.

In 1962 the Negroes in Mississippi fought for the equal right to enrol in colleges and were greeted by the authorities with repression which culminated in a blood bath.

This year, the struggle of the American Negroes started in early April in Birmingham, Alabama. Unarmed, bare-handed Negro masses were subjected to wholesale arrests and the most barbarous repression merely because they were holding meetings and parades against racial discrimmination. On 12 June, an extreme was reached with the cruel murder of Mr. Medgar Evers, a leader of the Negro people in Mississippi. These Negro masses, aroused to indignation and undaunted by ruthless violence, carried on their struggles even more courageously and quickly won the support of Negroes and all strata of the people throughout the United States. A gigantic and vigorous nationwide struggle is going on in nearly every state and city in the United States, and the struggle keeps mounting. American Negro organizations have decided to start a ‘freedom march’ on Washington on 28 August, in which 2,50,000 people will take part.

The speedy development of the struggle of the American Negroes is a manifestation of the constant sharpening of class struggle and national struggle within the United States; it has been causing increasingly grave anxiety to the U.S. ruling clique. The Kennedy Administration has resorted to cunning two-faced tactics. On the one hand, it continues to connive at and take part in the discrimmination against and persecution of Negroes; it even sends troops to repress them. On the other hand, it is parading as an advocate the ‘defence of human rights’ and the ‘protection of the civil rights of Negroes’, is calling upon the Negro people to exercise ‘restraint’, and is proposing to Congress so-called ‘civil rights legislation’ in an attempt to numb the fighting will of the Negro people and deceive the masses throughout the country. However, these tactics of the Kennedy Administration are being seen through by more and more of the Negroes. The fascist atrocities committed by the U.S. imperialists against the Negro people have laid bare the true nature of the so-called democracy and freedom in the United States and revealed the inner link between the reactionary polices pursued by the U.S. Government at home and its policies of aggression abroad.

I call upon the workers, peasants, revolutionary intellectuals, enlightened elements of the bourgeoisie, and other enlightened personages of all colours in the world, white, black, yellow, brown, etc., to unite to oppose the racial discrimmination practiced by U.S. imperialism and to support the American Negroes in their struggle against racial discrimmination. In the final analysis, a national struggle is a question of class struggle. In the United States, it is only the reactionary ruling clique among the whites which is oppressing the Negro people. They can in no way represent the workers, farmers, revolutionary intellectuals, and other enlightened persons who comprise the overwhelming majority of the white people. At present, it is the handful of imperialists, headed by the United States, and their supporters, the reactionaries in different countries, who are carrying out oppression, aggression and intimidation against the overwhelming majority of the nations and peoples of the world. They are the minority, and we are the majority. At most they make up less than ten percent of the 3,000 million people of the world. I am deeply convinced that, with the support of more than ninety per cent of the people of the world, the just struggle of the American Negroes will certainly be victorious. The evil system of colonialism and imperialism grew on along with the enslavement of the Negroes and the trade in Negroes; it will surely come to its end with the thorough emancipation of the black people.


If that's not enough I can also provide more articles he wrote against racism, including an obituary for Martin Luther King Jr and Paul Robeson's praise for Mao's record on race. So to answer your question, no Maoism isn't even tangentially connectable to fascism. Heck, Anarcho-Maoism was more of a real tendency back in the 70's then these guys are now.

[ed miliband]

@raul - the thing is though, "nazi-maoism" doesn't even really have an internet presence. most of the references to it online suggest, as i said, it only "existed" (in a marginal form or not), in the 70s and 80s. i'm not interested because i think it's a threat to watch out for (i think modern day fascists are, on the whole, cosplayers), but because i find nuts groups like that funny/interesting.

@boring marxist - i don't think their "maoism" had much to do with mao, except maybe admiring him as a great nationalist or something. i think it has more to do with national liberation / anti-imperialist politics, hence also their support for people like gadaffi, and admiring the militancy of maoist groups at that time.

[Os Cangaceiros]

70's academia was a real wing-nut soup, especially in Italy. Furthermore I actually don't think that to admire Mao, Peron, Hitler etc. is all that strange, if one has some kind of fascination with simply power, and not a huge interest in politics or political consistency. Although the inclusion of radical Islam into the mix is definitely weird...

[Raúl Duke]

From what I can gather, they're into "national liberation," probably have some theory of oppression (I guess oppression from "international jewry" :rolleyes:) and the inclusion of radical Islam is a personal caprice of Mutti based on how he views them in relation to national liberation and anti-semitism of the time.

It sounds like a bastardized version of Maoism with the inclusion of Nazi anti-semitism.

[Rafiq]

a bastardization within a bastardization

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[Os Cangaceiros]

bastardization inception

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Sounds a bit like Francis Yockey, a US "national bolshevik".

http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner/yockey.html



Today, in Europe, including Russia, and to some extent in the United States, important factions of the radical right have quietly buried the old biological racism and the nationalist chauvinism of pre-1945 fascism. The most sophisticated figures, such as Alain de Benoist, freely quote from Antonio Gramsci (for which Gramsi is of course not to be blamed), argue that the old categories of "left" and "right" are dead(1), and insist that their desire to expel immigrants and Jews from Europe has nothing to do with "grandpa's fascism", but rather because they see such groups invariably as bearers of "other cultures", not inferior, mind you, but "different". These theorists have their own version of post-modern cultural relativism, and say that Jews, blacks and Arabs are fine-- just as long as they stay in their own countries, or return there, the sooner the better. The European radical right supported Iraq in the Gulf War, a type of "Third Worldism" that was marginal in Western interwar fascism (but not entirely absent, as we shall see).

In the final analysis fascism is fascism.

[Sasha]

eite homan, the dutch leader of blood&honour-RVF was/is a self described Maoist, likewise lots of the other 70's/80's anti-imp's that drifted towards neo-nazi'sm (like horst mahler and michael Kuhnen) where and are more influenced by national-liberation maoism than by internationalist leninism or isolationist stalinism.

[Rurkel]

@raul - the thing is though, "nazi-maoism" doesn't even really have an internet presence.The New Right milieu in general does exist, though. The aforementioned Dugin, a Russian "Traditionalist" with links to Mutti, is a professor of Moscow State University and has well-placed sympathizers. However, it looks like he is going nowhere soon, since Russian nationalists who place an overriding priority on stopping the Caucasian/Central Asian immigrants taken the lead from him.

[goalkeeper]

@raul - the thing is though, "nazi-maoism" doesn't even really have an internet presence. most of the references to it online suggest, as i said, it only "existed" (in a marginal form or not), in the 70s and 80s. i'm not interested because i think it's a threat to watch out for (i think modern day fascists are, on the whole, cosplayers), but because i find nuts groups like that funny/interesting.

@boring marxist - i don't think their "maoism" had much to do with mao, except maybe admiring him as a great nationalist or something. i think it has more to do with national liberation / anti-imperialist politics, hence also their support for people like gadaffi, and admiring the militancy of maoist groups at that time.

I think it also do with the sort of traditionalist tradition that rejects modernity and decadence as a representative of "The West", "The Jews", America, capitalism. While obviously Maoists will jump up quickly to say that that has nothing to do with Maoism, you can see some aspect of this with the glorification of and concentration on the peasantry and the idea of students in China "going to the countryside" to live a more authentic/"proletarian"/whatever life (in the American context though this would be entirely different for Maoists and "going to the countryside" would be replaced with the ghetto or barrio). Of course the Maoist experience is China has contradicting aspects to this but I think you can make this sort of selective reading of Mao to uphold him in the manor of the Nazi-Maoist weirdos have.

[melvin]

The only internet presence of it (as if that means anything at all...) is a group on last fm. I can't post links but it is really funny.

[Comrade Nasser]

Lol stupid Nazis doing it wrong