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ratty
29th March 2013, 02:18
“It is a mistake to consider any belief more liberated than another. It is the possibility of change which is important. Every new form of liberation is destined to eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. There is no freedom from duality on this plane of existence, but one may at least aspire to choice of duality.”-Petter J Carroll From Liber Null.

This quote resonates with in the hearts ,and minds of those who truly wish to effect meaningful change . A thoughtful person can see the benefits of being able to shift between ideologies. Like in spirituality the feelings ,and emotions evoked by the thought forms of god can be useful ,and liberating in some sence , but some times the adverse thought current must be used to liberate you from the dogmas of the former,and often you must banish them both with laughter .
The same applies with political Ideology. I Identify often as conservative ,but on more than one occasion I have had to Identify with the left. Fiscal responsibility is nice ,but sometimes its not all about the Benjamins. The free market ,and Capitalism is ok when its not being run by a crony oligarchy,and even I have to admit that some system of control is necessary when the actions of a few affect so many .

Tenka
30th March 2013, 01:15
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
And yeah man, fuck the crony capitalist oligarchies! What we need is a paradigm shift to free the markets, and our very souls.

This would have been better in an introduction thread or something, maybe. I'm a stranger to philosophy in general; I think most of it quite daft at a glance, but I do know about occultists and their lolbertarian leanings, and don't see quotes therefrom followed by vague ramblings about dogmas and liberation and a statement of one's narrow political position as constituting much material for hearty philosophical bickering.

$lim_$weezy
31st March 2013, 08:05
So... basically we should avoid making commitments to thought or actions, to the point of moral contradictions ("fiscal responsibility" and "the left")?

Yeah man, fuck systems! Why even try to be consistent when it's impossible, am I right?

slum
31st March 2013, 08:10
lol i hate this argument, it's like people who claim they have no ideology because they haven't picked up an "official" one to challenge the bourgeois ideology they've been enculturated into.

have fun attaining total ideological purity dude, it will always be an illusion.

ratty
4th April 2013, 01:51
lol i hate this argument, it's like people who claim they have no ideology because they haven't picked up an "official" one to challenge the bourgeois ideology they've been enculturated into.

have fun attaining total ideological purity dude, it will always be an illusion.
Exactly ideological purity is an illusion. All Ideologies are flawe, but in some way useful.

ratty
4th April 2013, 02:05
So... basically we should avoid making commitments to thought or actions, to the point of moral contradictions ("fiscal responsibility" and "the left")?

Yeah man, fuck systems! Why even try to be consistent when it's impossible, am I right?
Commit when it is convenient to your needs ,and then change when a new need comes along if needed.