Student hate group plans to conduct nightly patrols on college campus

[Questionable]

A racist hate group at Towson University has announced plans to conduct its own nighttime police patrols on campus. Founded last year, the White Student Union has stirred significant controversy already. The organization has been labeled a hate group (http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map#s=MD) by the Southern Poverty Law Center. In addition, its founder, Matthew Heimbach (who goes by the title “Commander Heimbach”), and fellow organizer Scott Terry interrupted (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/15/1729331/cpac-slavery-minority-outreach/) a minority outreach panel at the Conservative Political Action Conference this month in order to defend slavery, noting that slaveholders provided blacks with food and shelter. Terry later told ThinkProgress that African-Americans “should be allowed to vote in Africa” and he’d be “fine” living in a society where blacks are permanently subservient to whites.
The Towerlight has more (http://www.thetowerlight.com/2013/03/white-student-union-returns-to-campus/) on the vigilante plan:

The controversial White Student Union has resurfaced on Towson’s campus with plans to conduct random nighttime patrols, which members say are for students’ protection.
Some members of the group, equipped with flashlights, will conduct on-campus safety walks, and female members will carry pepper spray in an attempt to protect students from various crimes like sexual assaults and robberies, WSU President Matthew Heimbach said. [...]
Heimbach said female members have also been enrolling in self-defense classes, and members have been going to local gun ranges as a group, but not in a “military way,” Heimbach said.
He said group members would carry no weapons on the nighttime walks.
One need look no further than the White Student Union’s blog to see why their vigilante operations could turn problematic. In a blog post last month entitled “Black Crime Wave Continues! (http://towsonwsu.blogspot.com/2013/02/black-crime-wave-continues.html)“, the group writes:

The frequent robberies, sexual assaults, and acts of vandalism at Towson University are not often reported in the local media. For those who are not Towson students it seems hard to fathom that every single day black predators prey upon the majority white Towson University student body. White Southern men have long been called to defend their communities when law enforcement and the State seem unwilling to protect our people.
As a result, the post reads, “The WSU executive board has unanimously approved to make it mandatory for all female WSU members to begin taking some form of unarmed self defense training over the next month.”
Though no Towson faculty would sign on as a sponsor for the WSU, the administration allows the group to use university resources. As the group bragged (http://towsonwsu.blogspot.com/2012/09/wsu-is-one-step-closer-to-university.html) in September 2012, it is “excited to report that it has taken one step closer toward becoming recognized by Towson University,” pointing to its profile on a university website (http://involved.towson.edu/organization/wsu).


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/25/1772141/racist-hate-group-to-conduct-nighttime-patrols-on-college-campus/


As a college student in the American South, I find this horrifying. I'm outspoken about my politics and I can imagine getting branded as a "red" and harassed by groups like these. I can only imagine how fearful non-white students must be.

[Kalinin's Facial Hair]

Maybe the minorities alongside the reds should form their own patrols as well.

[Rurkel]

in order to defend slavery, noting that slaveholders provided blacks with food and shelter.
Wow! The communist history books duped me, insisting that the slaves had no food or shelter at all, but now, when these brave heroes revealed the ACTUAL TRUTH, I realize both the underappreciated benevolence of the slave-owners and the depths of communist lies and deception.

Honestly, WTF, just WTF. Hope these... characters will get their comeuppance before they victimize someone. I mean, types like these are always marginal, sure, but it doesn't help much when you are their victim.

[Tenka]

In addition, its founder, Matthew Heimbach (who goes by the title “Commander Heimbach”), and fellow organizer Scott Terry interrupted a minority outreach panel at the Conservative Political Action Conference this month in order to defend slavery, noting that slaveholders provided blacks with food and shelter. Terry later told ThinkProgress that African-Americans “should be allowed to vote in Africa” and he’d be “fine” living in a society where blacks are permanently subservient to whites.

What kind of a surname is Terry? He should only be allowed to vote wherever that comes from; and Mr. Heimbach, back to Germany! God damn neo-nazis is stoopid. Even if races were real, which they're not, the extent of mixing among literally all people throughout history can scarcely be fathomed. It is depressing that these... people... these things... these imbeciles... exist, who say things like what has been quoted.

[Orange Juche]

Maybe the minorities alongside the reds should form their own patrols as well.

Of course, that's when the administration and other authorities step in and stop it.

[Pretty Flaco]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/03/25/1772141/racist-hate-group-to-conduct-nighttime-patrols-on-college-campus/


As a college student in the American South, I find this horrifying. I'm outspoken about my politics and I can imagine getting branded as a "red" and harassed by groups like these. I can only imagine how fearful non-white students must be.

Towson University is actually in Maryland. Towson is a suburb of Baltimore. I don't know how bad racism is in Maryland though.

[Questionable]

Towson University is actually in Maryland. Towson is a suburb of Baltimore. I don't know how bad racism is in Maryland though.

My mistake then, I got confused by their call in the article for "White Southern men" to fight crime.

[Flying Purple People Eater]

members have been going to local gun ranges as a group, but not in a “military way,” Heimbach said.

No. More like in a 'training for a pogrom' way.

[Starship Stormtrooper]

Towson University is actually in Maryland. Towson is a suburb of Baltimore. I don't know how bad racism is in Maryland though.

Now I'm even more surprised, especially as the union seems to be growing :mad:. The last article I saw about it a while back implied there were only like 5 members....

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

For fucks sake how can one small group of people contain so much stupidity?

[GiantMonkeyMan]

I would ask 'how the fuck do these people even get into a university?' but when you look at your average university these days it's nothing more than a factory to produce compliant specialist workers.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Towson University is actually in Maryland. Towson is a suburb of Baltimore. I don't know how bad racism is in Maryland though.
Maryland is south of the Mason-Dixon line, and is considered part of the Southern United States as defined by the United States Census Bureau.

[Comrade Nasser]

Maybe the minorities alongside the reds should form their own patrols as well.

We shall call them Red Martyrs Brigade.

Anyways this is ridiculous. Don't worry about us non-whites we can defend ourselves from ol' whitey. At least I can.

[Comrade Nasser]

Of course, that's when the administration and other authorities step in and stop it.

>Implying that the Administration and Authorities don't support it

[l'Enfermé]

People like that is why we should bring back the guillotine.

[Rusty Shackleford]

>Implying that the Administration and Authorities don't support it

for the most part, they probably genuinely dont... save a few faculty and admins.

academia is still liberal, its anti-communist and anti-nazi.

[Taters]

Oh, what could go wrong? It's just a bunch of white supremacists out on a leisurely evening stroll. They're not looking for trouble. :rolleyes:

[slum]

Towson University is actually in Maryland. Towson is a suburb of Baltimore. I don't know how bad racism is in Maryland though.

as a former baltimoron- it's bad

this does not surprise me from towson; that whole area (and this school especially) is full of this kind of despicable sentiment. white suburban reactionaries afraid to take two steps into the city where all "those people" live.

fuck 'em

[slum]

for the most part, they probably genuinely dont save a few faculty and admins.

academia is still liberal, its anti-communist and anti-nazi.

i wouldn't really put towson university in the category of "liberal academia"

but tbh some days i really think the liberalism of many modern universities has been overstated. administrations are on the large outright reactionary unless publicly called out (and even then...)

[Rusty Shackleford]

i wouldn't really put towson university in the category of "liberal academia"

but tbh some days i really think the liberalism of many modern universities has been overstated. administrations are on the large outright reactionary unless publicly called out (and even then...)

this is true.

Im coming from the perspective of the west coast. and especially my occasional relationship with faculties. not administration. Administration generally is reactionary, but not so reactionary to openly back a vigilante white students organization.

[bcbm]

i sincerely hope someone finds these small groups of scared white people alone in the dark and make them reconsider their vigilante posses

[DROSL]

That would just give the right to the media to hate more the minorities and nobody really needs that. I suggest that you let the stupid skinheads run around doing patrols with flashlights and pepperspray. Poor nazis they've lost their minds.:laugh:

[Orange Juche]

People like that is why we should bring back the guillotine.

I thought the civilized world was kind of beyond chopping heads off of people we don't like.

[bcbm]

I thought the civilized world was kind of beyond chopping heads off of people we don't like.

yeah now we just murder them with drone strikes

[Comrade Nasser]

for the most part, they probably genuinely dont save a few faculty and admins.

academia is still liberal, its anti-communist and anti-nazi.

I've never hated Libs to be honest. I hate conservatives since my areas swamped with them. Romney-Ryan signs EVERYWHERE. Honestly many conservatives are Christian identity or borderline White Nationalist.

Back on topic, I meant that many top administrators at the school are either indifferent to this disgusting vigilante lynch mob (which is essentially what this is) or deep down, they probably support it.

[Lobotomy]

Reminds me of those jobbik tools in Hungary patrolling Roma neighborhoods. Fuckers.

[Comrade Nasser]

yeah now we just murder them with drone strikes

And bayoneting pregnant women, and bombing hospitals with white phosphorus and Sarin nerve gas, shoot young children while their mothers are watching, rape young girls, force people whose religion forbids them to eat pork to eat pork or die in gitmo, take photos of prisoners masturbating (which is also against their religion btw), peeing on dead soldiers, forcing children to hold signs that say "I fuck goats cause I'm a dirty Iraqi!" so they can get a piece of candy, and "liberating" a people who never needed liberation.

And why you may ask? "They're brown sand people, alright! We have a right to their oi- I mean uhh we have to free them from "tyranny."

And yet, us middle-easterners are still the "terrorists". Go figure...

[Zealot]

Only in America :laugh:

How popular is this group? I was thinking that maybe it was like 3 or so goons trying to roleplay the Wehrmacht with flashlights and pepper-spray but I seem to hear of them quite a lot.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Maybe the minorities alongside the reds should form their own patrols as well.Essentially yes. I think probably the best thing to do would be for students (reaching out to Balitmore activist groups if they need more people and support) to organize an "Anti-racist Student Union" which on the practical side would organize their own patrols, while trying to organize a multi-racial coalition. It would allow the Black Student Union to participate in a way that would not play into the fascist's rehtorical "framing" of their hate-group ("Hey, if a white student union is racist, wouldn't a BSU be racist too!") and it would isolate the racists who would be outnumbers pretty quickly and easily probably.

It could also then generalize the politics by making it not specifically just to counter the Racists Student Union but to also bring attention and raise public debates about education inequality and the way it is growing in the US. The could specifically link how the administration of the campuses - while probably not supporting racists explicitly (because it would be "disruptive" and bad PR for the university) is part of a larger process of making higher education once again the privilage of the wealthy. It could be a coalition where radical ideas would have some weight and get a larger hearing and it would begin to connect the dots between class oppression (through education cut-backs) and race+class oppression of delegitimizing the idea of education for poor blacks and latinos while restricting wider access to universities.

[l'Enfermé]

I thought the civilized world was kind of beyond chopping heads off of people we don't like.
Why not? It's cheap, fast and painless. But yes, you are correct, Western society has degenerated to the point where one can butcher 67 teenagers and instead of being dealt with justice, one is rewarded with detention in a comfortable room. You even get a computer! Albeit, without internet(such barbarian monstrousity! the internet is a human right!).

[Red Commissar]

They're fishing for attention/controversy to push their warped perception of why crime occurs. Some of these guys are bound to go on full-vigilante mode one day and get in deepshit for it when they harass people. Either that or become the laughing stock of the campus.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I've never hated Libs to be honest. I hate conservatives since my areas swamped with them. Romney-Ryan signs EVERYWHERE. Honestly many conservatives are Christian identity or borderline White Nationalist.

Back on topic, I meant that many top administrators at the school are either indifferent to this disgusting vigilante lynch mob (which is essentially what this is) or deep down, they probably support it.

Like i said, i come from a predominantly liberal area. sometimes its actually difficult to tell the difference between a soft liberal, an apolitical type, and a soft conservative. probably the strangest thing for my co-workers is i sound like an ultra liberal (to them) yet i also shit talk about 'obamacare' and how the democrats 'cant do shit for us' which is usually alongside the republicans.


As for administration, its possible. i just read though that the campus is in baltimore with is 60% black apparently. so the administration may personally support it, but it is no so tone-deaf, callous, or stupid to support this.

The bourgeoisie may resort to and rely on racism to maintain its power, but they are not so stupid to support this little pissant group. Only in times of crisis will the bourgeoisie actually backhandedly support (or openly) fascist, racist, or nationalist organizations. When you associate with something so vile, you paint yourself in the blackest of black. everyone knows, 'the bosses are worse than we thought!' in times of peace, it will use its lopsided criminal justice system including the police and courts. it will attempt to recruit non-white youths to fill the ranks of the military, and economically segregate things in a backhanded way.


I mean, if the admins or faculty actually end up defending them or supporting them beyond 'its free speech' then someone needs to call the Baltimore Brick Layers Union Local 1968

And when i use the term liberal, it requires context sometimes. Either im refering to the american form of political liberalism, or im referring to liberal economics (liberal reforms in the 80s in fSU) which i mean capitalist economics.

[subcp]

Baltimore is a tragically sad place; the whole city has an heir of hopelessness.

I wonder how the workers at the University are taking this; the public sector has a higher percentage of minority workers than the private sector; particularly African-American women. It must feel stifling and terribly frustrating that the place you work everyday is taking a turn-the-other-cheek attitude toward organized vigilante-racialism from the students you're there to provide services for.

These white kids have to have their academic buildings and dorms cleaned by custodial crews; the gardens, trees and grass tended by groundskeeping crews; their meals prepared and served by food service workers; opposing this barbarity has to include not just students, but the campus workers and any workers who are employed in the various cottage industries that feed off of campus business (local stores and restaurants, bars, contractors).

Contacting the unions would do little except possibly issue a press release or provide a union hall to house meetings- self-organized self-defense is the only way to go. In the 1930's the workers of the Teamsters went beyond their union in the self-defense of their meeting hall and neighborhoods from the Silver Shirts (American fascists)- forming their own armed self-defense squads and patrols. The same level of escalating violence isn't present at Towson (yet), but the general idea remains valid.

[one10]

The real crime is allowing such racist student unions to operate.

[Comrade Nasser]

Like i said, i come from a predominantly liberal area. sometimes its actually difficult to tell the difference between a soft liberal, an apolitical type, and a soft conservative. probably the strangest thing for my co-workers is i sound like an ultra liberal (to them) yet i also shit talk about 'obamacare' and how the democrats 'cant do shit for us' which is usually alongside the republicans.


As for administration, its possible. i just read though that the campus is in baltimore with is 60% black apparently. so the administration may personally support it, but it is no so tone-deaf, callous, or stupid to support this.

The bourgeoisie may resort to and rely on racism to maintain its power, but they are not so stupid to support this little pissant group. Only in times of crisis will the bourgeoisie actually backhandedly support (or openly) fascist, racist, or nationalist organizations. When you associate with something so vile, you paint yourself in the blackest of black. everyone knows, 'the bosses are worse than we thought!' in times of peace, it will use its lopsided criminal justice system including the police and courts. it will attempt to recruit non-white youths to fill the ranks of the military, and economically segregate things in a backhanded way.


I mean, if the admins or faculty actually end up defending them or supporting them beyond 'its free speech' then someone needs to call the Baltimore Brick Layers Union Local 1968

And when i use the term liberal, it requires context sometimes. Either im refering to the american form of political liberalism, or im referring to liberal economics (liberal reforms in the 80s in fSU) which i mean capitalist economics.

You're right comrade. The school officials deep down probably do support it, but they won't come flat out and say it.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

There should be a anti-racist student union formed but they shouldn't be doing night patrols(Unless the "night patrols" are patrolling the campus to kick the shit out of racists) because the White Student Union is a joke, there is rarely any crime at this campus I've heard. These patrols are just a waste of time for the WSU, they'll be walking around campus at night doing nothing. There shouldn't be any night patrols because there isn't a problem. It's all about intimidation, keep those minorities in their place, make them fear walking around campus.