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Willin'
24th March 2013, 20:23
Let's see :tt2:

DDR
24th March 2013, 20:25
Canibalism FTW!

Domela Nieuwenhuis
24th March 2013, 20:27
I'd be a dual to the death. Regardless whether i would eat him or not.

LOLseph Stalin
24th March 2013, 20:27
I would use the fascist to help me build a boat to try to escape. If I can't convert them then I would kill them. Either that or just abandon them on the island while I use my boat to escape :laugh:.

ed miliband
24th March 2013, 20:27
fascism is so 1930s.

AConfusedSocialDemocrat
24th March 2013, 20:29
A nice discussion on the merits of our prefered system would be cool.

Comrade Nasser
24th March 2013, 20:32
Sadly I have the bad habit of actually wanting to debate fascists to hear their disgusting opinion, no matter how much I despise it (I know right?). Then once I get really pissed I'd probably beat his ass, not mortally wound him, but beat the living crap out of him.

Paul Pott
24th March 2013, 20:35
I think it would be to our mutual advantage to work together to get back to civilization.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
24th March 2013, 20:37
Draw stick figures of Bukharinites and Zinovievites, randomly proclaim wildlife to be Japanese spies, and relive the glory days of the old anti-Soviet block.

Yuppie Grinder
24th March 2013, 20:39
Depends upon context. If it were advantageous for survival, I would eat the other person regardless of their ideology, unless they were one of the other 13 left comms. We're endangered.

Pleb
24th March 2013, 20:42
He might be bigger than me so in that case political discussion would be avoided.

Os Cangaceiros
24th March 2013, 21:21
I recently learned from watching a documentary on Russian prison that human flesh actually doesn't taste all that good.

l'Enfermé
24th March 2013, 21:31
This is the Philosophy forum, not the silly polls forum.

hatzel
24th March 2013, 21:39
Considering some fascist guy (or, in fact, some communist guy) sitting on a desert island cannot really have any political impact on anything, I don't see why it should make any difference to me what ideology they adhere to, if it cannot possibly be manifested in any meaningful way...

Zostrianos
24th March 2013, 21:50
I'm pretty confident I could talk some sense into him. Fascist arguments are easy to refute, it probably wouldn't be a problem.

Slavoj Zizek's Balls
24th March 2013, 22:09
I'd ask him/her why we were left on this island by civilisation, then work with him/her to get back to civilisation. Survival over politics.

Quail
24th March 2013, 22:26
Moved this thread to non-political. Calling it "philosophy" is a bit of a stretch.

DDR
24th March 2013, 22:30
Fellas, you're all very lukewarm, the only good fascist is a dead and roasted one!

Tjis
24th March 2013, 22:55
I'm sure there'll be plenty of time for discussing politics while we're ensuring a steady food supply for ourselves and building a boat to get away from there. Possibly one week we could try collective ownership over the means of production and use them for the good of our island's working masses, then the next week practice a corporativist style of government where we use our private property for the collective good of our tiny island nation.

ellipsis
24th March 2013, 22:56
Is it a hot female? i could deal with a hot guy too. honestly, in line with slogan in my sig, id try to fuck the hate out of them. Failing that, curb them on a coconut.

Anti-Traditional
24th March 2013, 23:02
''Live side by side and wount care about each other'' - Can't believe I'm the only one who chose this. Besides, living on an island would change a person's character, there's no way they'd remain a fascist.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
24th March 2013, 23:42
I'm pretty confident I could talk some sense into him. Fascist arguments are easy to refute, it probably wouldn't be a problem.

Fascists have +7 against logic and +3 on denial saving throws.

hatzel
25th March 2013, 01:02
Fellas, you're all very lukewarm, the only good fascist is a dead and roasted one!

But what does it even mean to be a fascist (or otherwise) on a desert island, in the absence of any political structure, any real economy, even any population? Where's the possibility of even taking any such stance, let alone that stance being relevant? :confused:

Sam_b
25th March 2013, 01:05
If I was stranded on an island with an fascists then they certainly wouldn't be grammar Nazis right

Skyhilist
25th March 2013, 01:17
I'm a vegan... But I think maybe in this case I could make an exception
I bet fascists taste like shit though. Could I kill him and make a raft out of him or something?

l'Enfermé
25th March 2013, 01:19
Can I eat him first and then kill him?

ВАЛТЕР
25th March 2013, 01:29
Kill him with a rock in his sleep. (because fair fights are for suckers)

Turn his body into chum so I can can lure fish to catch with a spear I'd construct from his bones. Preferably big fish like sharks and whatnot so I can eat like a king.

I'll go Bear Grylls on his ass in a minute...

Tenka
25th March 2013, 01:32
Kill him and eat him

First I'd pretend to think he knows what he's talking about though.

Luís Henrique
25th March 2013, 01:37
If I was stranded on an island with an fascists then they certainly wouldn't be grammar Nazis right

At most a grammar Strasserite...

Luís Henrique

Luís Henrique
25th March 2013, 01:39
Now, the difficult question: you are stranded in an island with a left communist. Do you try to have a bourgeois scape from the island, or do you try to build a bourgeois society between you two? Or do you oppose both?

Luís Henrique

Comrade Samuel
25th March 2013, 02:04
I'll push a giant rock down a hill at him and steal his glasses.

That will teach him to defy us hunters...uh...I mean communists! :laugh:

homegrown terror
25th March 2013, 02:25
I recently learned from watching a documentary on Russian prison that human flesh actually doesn't taste all that good.

i've heard quite the opposite. then again we have to consider sources. considering the situation of yours, they were probably discussing survival cannibalism, in which case the victim would be roughly equally starved as the victor, and no animal is going to taste good if it's malnourished to the point of death. my source, however, was an interview with a tribal man in a society that still practices ritual cannibalism, in which case their victims (if they should really be called that, their game might be more appropriate) would be considerably healthier, and therefore more palatable, especially with the means to properly prepare them for the table.

Kalinin's Facial Hair
25th March 2013, 02:32
"Work together so that you can get away from that island" and then "Kill him and eat him".

bcbm
25th March 2013, 02:33
become its leader

Kalinin's Facial Hair
25th March 2013, 02:35
Now, the difficult question: you are stranded in an island with a left communist. Do you try to have a bourgeois scape from the island, or do you try to build a bourgeois society between you two? Or do you oppose both?

Luís Henrique

Oh god. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Sinister Intents
25th March 2013, 03:29
Rip the fascists apart. Use their flesh to make a sail for a raft. Make decorative things with their bone.

Os Cangaceiros
25th March 2013, 03:36
i've heard quite the opposite. then again we have to consider sources. considering the situation of yours, they were probably discussing survival cannibalism, in which case the victim would be roughly equally starved as the victor, and no animal is going to taste good if it's malnourished to the point of death. my source, however, was an interview with a tribal man in a society that still practices ritual cannibalism, in which case their victims (if they should really be called that, their game might be more appropriate) would be considerably healthier, and therefore more palatable, especially with the means to properly prepare them for the table.

It was actually some drunk Russian who, as he was walking home from the bar, got into an argument with a random guy in his neighborhood over some trivial matter, killed the guy, then decided (for some reason) to eat his flesh. So he chopped him up with an axe and boiled the meat, then when that wasn't so palatable he tried frying it. Then he gave a bunch of the remaining meat to some friends of his and told them it was kangaroo meat.

Lenina Rosenweg
25th March 2013, 04:15
fascism is so 1930s.

Our Greek comrades don't seem to think so.

Lenina Rosenweg
25th March 2013, 04:17
It was actually some drunk Russian who, as he was walking home from the bar, got into an argument with a random guy in his neighborhood over some trivial matter, killed the guy, then decided (for some reason) to eat his flesh. So he chopped him up with an axe and boiled the meat, then when that wasn't so palatable he tried frying it. Then he gave a bunch of the remaining meat to some friends of his and told them it was kangaroo meat.

Friends don't let friends....

Starship Stormtrooper
25th March 2013, 04:37
Sadly, there is no option for working together to get off the island, then attempting to convince them, and then (if they fail to see the error of their ways) consuming them (hey, you need provisions for the voyage). So I consoled myself with voting to work together, alongside the thought that if your eating him helps you escape, you are both still working together and he is still getting off the island (alive is another matter).

Domela Nieuwenhuis
25th March 2013, 06:45
I'm a vegan... But I think maybe in this case I could make an exception :D
I bet fascists taste like shit though. Could I kill him and make a raft out of him or something? :D

Message in a bottle found on some beach. Message reads:

"Stuck with X on an island.
Come help. Out of food.
I'm healthy. X tasted like chicken."

Let's Get Free
25th March 2013, 06:49
Work together to survive. If I was on a stranded island, politics would be the last thing I'd be worried about.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
25th March 2013, 06:56
I'd kill him and eat him. Mostly because I drool at the thought of eating human flesh, but still.

bcbm
25th March 2013, 07:13
some sick fuckers in here

Comrade Nasser
25th March 2013, 07:24
Fascists have +7 against logic and +3 on denial saving throws.

I would conjure a Liberal Zombie in the shape of Rachel maddow. Then I would activate the field spell MSNBC which will give my maddow zombie an over 9000 attack boost on her home turf. Then I would special summon Nancy pellosi using the Obama personality cult spell card (FLIP: Special summon one liberal from your deck. Activate only when MSNBC is active on the field.) Then I would active the "Bash the Fash" quick-play trap card to destroy my enemies fascist monster, and attack the fascist directly with Nancy pellosi and Rachel maddow and win the game!

Rusty Shackleford
25th March 2013, 09:14
what is the point of fascism or communism if there only exists a relationship between 2 people? if you are stuck on an island, how will you discuss the liberation of the proletariat if you are the only former proletarian(or student, hehehe). How can the fascist be a fascist if there is no communist movement (c'mon, a movement of one? are you all liberals? :tt2:) to confront, or no nation to build?


now obviously if the fascist trys to kill you, you respond likewise but i think the most important point would to be to get back to society and then fight it out

Luís Henrique
25th March 2013, 10:29
what is the point of fascism or communism if there only exists a relationship between 2 people? if you are stuck on an island, how will you discuss the liberation of the proletariat if you are the only former proletarian(or student, hehehe). How can the fascist be a fascist if there is no communist movement (c'mon, a movement of one? are you all liberals? :tt2:) to confront, or no nation to build?


now obviously if the fascist trys to kill you, you respond likewise but i think the most important point would to be to get back to society and then fight it out

You trying to instill good sence into Revleft. You bad. Good sence not allowed. Good sence bourgeois. You reformist. You restricted, you banned. You exiled to desert island. With fascist. Fascist kills you. Fascist eats you. Justice served. Case closed.

Luís Henrique

Jimmie Higgins
25th March 2013, 11:27
what is the point of fascism or communism if there only exists a relationship between 2 people? if you are stuck on an island, how will you discuss the liberation of the proletariat if you are the only former proletarian(or student, hehehe). How can the fascist be a fascist if there is no communist movement (c'mon, a movement of one? are you all liberals? :tt2:) to confront, or no nation to build?


now obviously if the fascist trys to kill you, you respond likewise but i think the most important point would to be to get back to society and then fight it outYeah assuming that they were reasonable enough to recognize that the two people on the island need to work together, then their "fascism" is irrelevant outside of society. Any arguments about politics wouldn't last long because arguments about survival would take precidence.

Fascists aren't bad because as induviduals they have repulsive ideas, they are social poison when they are in society and trying to act on their repulsive ideas. So I'd work with them out of necissity just like I would try and work with a non-fascist but asshole-type person.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th March 2013, 12:42
discuss then eat....food we have caught together in a sustainable manner, then spend a many weeks building a raft, growing a beard and making friends with a football.

Crux
25th March 2013, 19:15
If the fascist is anything like you loonies I'd probably be killed in my sleep.

Anglo-Saxon Philistine
25th March 2013, 19:21
If the fascist is anything like you loonies I'd probably be killed in my sleep.

And then eaten.

human strike
25th March 2013, 20:06
I would enslave them as my sexual partner and then kill and eat them after 8 moons as a sacrifice to the god of rain and thunder. Or is that the plot of How Tasty My Little Frenchman Is?

Frankly, I'd be grateful for the company.

Domela Nieuwenhuis
25th March 2013, 23:19
what is the point of fascism or communism if there only exists a relationship between 2 people? if you are stuck on an island, how will you discuss the liberation of the proletariat if you are the only former proletarian(or student, hehehe). How can the fascist be a fascist if there is no communist movement (c'mon, a movement of one? are you all liberals? :tt2:) to confront, or no nation to build?


now obviously if the fascist trys to kill you, you respond likewise but i think the most important point would to be to get back to society and then fight it out

Now try to imagine a black gay commie and a white trash fash...doesn't it matter if he's a fash?

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
26th March 2013, 01:39
Of course the most normal and the most out there answer get the most votes.

Crux
26th March 2013, 22:38
Seriously though we would probably try to kill each other with ever more elaborate schemes and self-made death machines.

Domela Nieuwenhuis
26th March 2013, 22:58
Seriously though we would probably try to kill each other with ever more elaborate schemes and self-made death machines.

Oh yes...

http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2300000/Death-Machine-bunny-suicides-2348317-470-343.jpg

MarxArchist
31st March 2013, 00:43
We'd obviously start a free market utopia where people from the other island across the way would "voluntarily" come over and work for us building factories and mansions. We'd first have to set their island ablaze and set up a state on our island to ensure the people on the other island have no other choice but to work for us in order to survive. Then maybe we could dehumanize them in order to justify (to ourselves) our treatment of them when they begin to threaten our dominant position. Obviously at that point we'd have to make them build death camps and kill off as many of them as we can so as to reset the 'natural order of things' while inbreeding the perfect blue 3 eyed blonde hair monster race in order to build a floatilla so we could conquer the world one island at a time. Sounds normal right?
http://content.mycutegraphics.com/graphics/monster/three-eyed-monster.png

Skyhilist
31st March 2013, 01:17
some sick fuckers in here

Naturally, of course