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Skyhilist
20th March 2013, 23:14
I'm currently an anarchist. I do however see the need for their to be some mechanisms in place to deal with when more backwards communities might support more backwards things through voting, even after a revolution. Incentive certainly would be taken away, but I think their are at least some things that could occasionally lead to inequality in some point or another, whereas most communities might be too apathetic to "isolate" such a country for supporting inequality or even environmental degradation.
My current idea has been that on occasional instances when this might arise, a global multi-tendency common front would step in to stop such inequality. Someone pointed out to me that this common front could essentially become like a state. So I'm thinking maybe there are more logical solutions to such a problem.

I'd love to hear some anarchist responses to this who have their own responses to such a problem without the implementation of a state. It seems like left communism might have some legitimate solutions to this too though. So while I definitely can't currently consider myself a left communist, I'd certainly like to delve more into these ideas. The only turn off for me though I'd that left communism is very anti-syndicalist, and I definitely see myself as a supporter of revolutionary syndicalism.

So are their any libertarian socialist tendencies that borrow from syndicalism, left communism, or even anarchism, but have universal solutions to aforementioned issues that might occasionally arise (again, I know incentive would be taken away, but there's really no guarantee such a thing still wouldn't happen, so it'd be nice to have a universal mechanism to deal with this if it did).

Thanks in advance comrades and again I'd love to hear any libertarian socialist ideas here or even less authoritarian versions of other systems. Also, please don't try to sway me away from syndicalism as I have already heard all of the typical arguments against it. I'm also aware of DeLeonism which sort of fits this, but don't really think relying on winning electoral politics is really the most viable option.

Philosophos
20th March 2013, 23:38
You could look about anarcho-syndicalism

Skyhilist
20th March 2013, 23:59
Well yes I actually am an Anarcho-syndicalist currently, I'm just trying to think critically about how the issues I brought up in my original post could be best dealt with, whether it be under anarchy, left communism, or whatever

Yet_Another_Boring_Marxist
21st March 2013, 01:07
Look up De-Leonism, it might be your cup of tea.

Orange Juche
21st March 2013, 01:14
Council communism?

JPSartre12
21st March 2013, 01:20
Look up De-Leonism, it might be your cup of tea.

I agree with this. Marxist-DeLeonism is very centered on the trade union movement and very pro-syndicalist. It's something that is worth checking out.

Or yes, councilism. I'm quiet attracted to that (to the point wherein I might fetish it, to be completely honest).

Yuppie Grinder
21st March 2013, 01:45
Council communism?

Nope.

Os Cangaceiros
21st March 2013, 10:39
I don't know, maybe something akin to the ideology of the old KAPD? *shrug*

Flying Purple People Eater
21st March 2013, 10:44
Don't let DeLeon's elitist remarks off-put you - he's great. I suggest you take a look at him.

As I have seen mentioned before, the user Marx Schmarx knows quite a bit about DeLeon. Maybe you could ask him for his opinion?

Blake's Baby
21st March 2013, 10:55
Did everyone miss this?


...I'm also aware of DeLeonism which sort of fits this, but don't really think relying on winning electoral politics is really the most viable option.

So, Employer Destroyer, what is it a) that you find so compelling about syndicalism that we're not allowed to criticise it, and b) that syndicalism fails to provide that you think needs bolstering from elsewhere? I'm not really sure what the problem is to be honest. Is it just that syndicalism doesn't provide a means for forcing a commune back in line if it does something shit (like discriminating against a minority group)?


I don't know, maybe something akin to the ideology of the old KAPD? *shrug*

If you mean the KAPD-AU, then that was what I was thinking and presumably the reason why Marxist McFly suggested Council Communism.