Communist Party (of Venezuela) backs Maduro

[KurtFF8]

This is from a section of a larger article titled "Maduro and Capriles Register Candidacies as Venezuela Prepares for Fresh Presidential Election (http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/8177)s" from Venezuela Analysis.

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Communist party backs Maduro

Also yesterday, the Venezuelan Communist Party (PCV) unanimously agreed to back Nicolas Maduro’s candidacy at their national conference.

Maduro, who attended the conference, emphasised his “special commitment” to the political bureau of the PCV. He also made concrete his invitation for the PCV to join the political – military leadership of the Bolivarian revolution, formed last Tuesday upon Chavez’s death.
He told the assembled PCV delegates that he welcomed “criticism and self-criticism as a Chavista and revolutionary method of constructing the nation”.

The socialist candidate also recognised the PCV’s historical role in Venezuela’s popular struggle, including being the first political party to support Chavez in his first presidential bid in 1998.

Yesterday’s move ensures that the unity between Maduro and Chavez’s party, the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV), and the PCV is maintained. Maduro argued that this unity was fundamental to the consolidation of the Bolivarian project.

“The only way that we are all Chavez is if we are all together. All together we are Chavez, separated we are nothing, and could lose everything,” he warned.

Meanwhile PCV secretary general Oscar Figuera said, “With the help of our people and the popular and revolutionary organisations, Nicolas Maduro will be elected constitutional president on 14 April”.

The PCV also handed Maduro a list of critical observations of the Bolivarian process they argue must be acted upon in the coming period.Thoughts?

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

My first "thought" is that this is completely unsurprising. They have been coalition allies since Chavez first won (as the article mentions)

My other thought, though, was props to whoever picked a ro-oster as the symbol for the party (instead of the well-loved but overused and tired hammers, sickles and stars). Either it symbolizes "waking" the working classes up or it is the first case of "hipster communism", but it's pretty stylish either way :rolleyes:

EDIT - I had to change that to "ro-oster" - Also, why is "ro-oster" (without the dash) censored? Is that just another stupid case of hyper-Leftist censorship? Are male chickens reactionaries or something???

[Tim Cornelis]

Ro-osterism refers to the glorious political tradition of revleft user Ro-oster that was banned in the Great May Purge of 2012 when he and his followers were banned.
The revleft revisionist BA tyranny opposes revolutionary Ro-osterism and I am risk of being purged for merely stating this.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/**********-t171711/index.html

(change *** to ro-osterism).

http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=32197

[Althusser]

In my opinion, It's very different from communist parties in the US supporting Obama because Chavez's administration actually helped the poor in Venezuela to an extent.

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

Ro-osterism refers to the glorious political tradition of revleft user Ro-oster that was banned in the Great May Purge of 2012 when he and his followers were banned.
The revleft revisionist BA tyranny opposes revolutionary Ro-osterism and I am risk of being purged for merely stating this.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/**********-t171711/index.html

(change *** to ro-osterism).

http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=32197

I remember that poster ...

so when are we going to edit all the male chickens out of the photographs?

[Paul Pott]

They backed Chavez, so I don't see why not.

[Paul Pott]

What's the difference between rooosterism and forkliftism?

[Skyhilist]

Why are banned people's names censored though? That's some authoritarian shit...

[The Cheshire Cat]

Altough I agree that censoring words is ridiculous, let's please stay on topic. This subject is quite interesting and important, at least for the coming couple of weeks.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Stay on topic guys, not worth it.

Not surprising that in these times the communists have supported Maduro electorally. It's a dead end beyond the coming election, but it's probably worth at least making sure he gets in ahead of Capriles.

Beyond that, I think the communist left in Venezuela needs to appraise what strategy they will take going forward, because it does really need to go beyond electing chavista after chavista. There needs to be an advance in the grassroots councils/movements if working class power in Venezuela is to become entrenched beyond the whim of Chavez et al.

[CyM]

The pcv needs to merge with the PSUV as a recognized faction within the party and put forward a communist programme.

[La Guaneña]

Not only the PCV, but almost all real leftist forces in Latin America, including the very international CIPOML: http://www.cipoml.info/index.php/es/inicio/8-espanol/o-es-inicio/235-comunicado-fallecimiento-del-presidente-hugo-chavez.


But I guess what's happening in Venezuela isn't prole enough for RevLeft. :rolleyes:

[RedHal]

considering the circumstamces, any so call revolutionary leftist who is against the Maduro election, shows that their struggle only occurs in text books.

[Ocean Seal]

Stay on topic guys, not worth it.

Not surprising that in these times the communists have supported Maduro electorally. It's a dead end beyond the coming election, but it's probably worth at least making sure he gets in ahead of Capriles.

Beyond that, I think the communist left in Venezuela needs to appraise what strategy they will take going forward, because it does really need to go beyond electing chavista after chavista. There needs to be an advance in the grassroots councils/movements if working class power in Venezuela is to become entrenched beyond the whim of Chavez et al.
This is actually a pretty reasonable idea, and this could be done within the current political climate especially considering that Chavez just died and his legacy could be appropriated to a more radical cause just like Bolivar's.

[Riveraxis]

In my opinion, It's very different from communist parties in the US supporting Obama because Chavez's administration actually helped the poor in Venezuela to an extent.

Are you serious? Communist parties in America supported Obama.? That's got to be an awful joke..
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I think that whole "All together we are Chavez" bit was kind of weird. But I'm glad things aren't going to go to a stand-still now that Chavez is gone.

[goalkeeper]

Are you serious? Communist parties in America supported Obama.? That's got to be an awful joke..
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CPUSA rather enthusiastically supports Obama.

The Marxist-Leninist group FRSO-Fight Back! also has shown some support I think. I remember seeing a FRSO activist on a Facebook picture with an Obama poster in 2008 or something. Perhaps someone can clarify this groups position further.

[Paul Pott]

Not only the PCV, but almost all real leftist forces in Latin America, including the very international CIPOML: http://www.cipoml.info/index.php/es/inicio/8-espanol/o-es-inicio/235-comunicado-fallecimiento-del-presidente-hugo-chavez.


But I guess what's happening in Venezuela isn't prole enough for RevLeft. :rolleyes:

That communique didn't say anything about electing Maduro.

[The Cheshire Cat]

Gotta love their website btw: http://pcmlv.blogspot.nl Check out the sweet vid on the right called 'Glory to Stalin'. Apparently they have no trouble with honoring people, and to be honest I don't expect them to stop honoring Chavez and start taking initiative either.

[Paul Pott]

Don't pretend you know anything about the PCMLV or its activities.

[The Cheshire Cat]

I don't. But I think it says a lot about a party when they feature clips like that on their website...

[Paul Pott]

I don't. But I think it says a lot about a party when they feature clips like that on their website...

All it says is that they uphold Stalin as a historical Marxist-Leninist leader, which you should have guessed by the international affiliation anyway.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

considering the circumstamces, any so call revolutionary leftist who is against the Maduro election, shows that their struggle only occurs in text books.

Oh okay. That's all? A ridiculous assumption and everyone who doesn't follow your baseless assumption is not actually involved in any struggle.
Now of course most leftists would say that books, or education, is an important part of the struggle. But then again, most, actual, leftists wouldn't just make baseless assumptions either.

[The Cheshire Cat]

It means they are idolizing a man who is responsible for the deaths of a great many revolutionaries. But if you don't mind I am going to skip this discussion, as this is going to degenerate in a flamewar between stalinists and non-stalinists, and I would like to keep this thread clean.

[Paul Pott]

It means they are idolizing a man who is responsible for the deaths of a great many revolutionaries. But if you don't mind I am going to skip this discussion, as this is going to degenerate in a flamewar between stalinists and non-stalinists, and I would like to keep this thread clean.

Yes, the Soviet Union was a lesser place because factionalists like Trotsky and Bukharin were killed. I'd be more sorry about the average Soviet citizens who wound up in the path of people like Yezhov.

But thank you for sparing me more.

Anyway, this is about modern Venezuela and the various ML parties there.

[Paul Pott]

All it says is that they uphold Stalin as a historical Marxist-Leninist leader, which you should have guessed by the international affiliation anyway.

Not to mention the hugeass banner at the top.

[La Guaneña]

That communique didn't say anything about electing Maduro.

They demonstrate strong support for Chavez, and for the continuation of the democratic process with the election of Maduro. I know militants in the PCEML and in the brazilian PCR, both members of CIPOML and that is their position.

Obviously we don't simply support that and leave it as it is. Not even the PCV does that, as you can read in the last line of the text:


The PCV also handed Maduro a list of critical observations of the Bolivarian process they argue must be acted upon in the coming period.

Everyone knows that socialism only comes though a proletarian revolution, not electoral politics. We ain't stupid. But what is happening is the bolivarian process raising consciousness in the working class, and creating a sense of empowerment. Those people here who think that the bolivarian "revolution" is a one man show are choosing to be blind.

[Tim Cornelis]

Yes, the Soviet Union was a lesser place because factionalists like Trotsky and Bukharin were killed. I'd be more sorry about the average Soviet citizens who wound up in the path of people like Yezhov.

But thank you for sparing me more.

Anyway, this is about modern Venezuela and the various ML parties there.

The Soviet Union was a lesser place because political opponents were murdered, because workers were subject to harsh conditions and strict discipline, because millions perished in famines, concentration camps, and well... "Yeshov's" hands.