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Flying Purple People Eater
12th March 2013, 12:07
http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-villagers-at-war-with-army-over-land-deal-20130312-2fx8n.html


Chinese soldiers cut off power and phones, fired tear gas and stun grenades, and beat protesters in a southern village to try to end an 18-day rebellion on Sunday.
Dozens of villagers in Shangpu were admitted to hospital and six people were arrested, according to witnesses on Monday.
"They came at about midnight, or maybe half an hour later. They cut off the power first," said one villager involved in the fracas.
About 60 people were injured, mostly older people. Some of them had broken bones, one had a stun grenade explode in his face and may need to go to the provincial hospital.
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"There were more than 3000 officers. All the roads were full of police cars and other vehicles. People with friends in the public security bureau said 3000 to 4000 people were sent."
Other villagers said they had fought back for about three hours using spades, stones and wooden sticks, and that the police had left in the early hours of Sunday morning.
Several of the security officers, who villagers believe were sent by the local government, wore plain clothes.
However, one paramilitary policeman posted his own account of the raid on Sina Weibo, China's version of Twitter.
"We have returned victorious, how exciting! Tossing stones, throwing flash grenades, stun grenades, tear gas, really exciting but very tiring too. Luckily we all came back without injury," wrote Chen Zhiming.
For the past three weeks or so, the villagers of Shangpu have been locked in a stand-off with the local government over a 33 hectare plot of land that they claim was sold from underneath them without their consent.
In late February, several hundred thugs armed with steel pipes and spades threatened the village with retribution if they did not accept the deal. The villagers, however, retaliated and chased the thugs away, burning many of their cars and then using the wrecks as a barricade to block the road.
A spokesman for the local government said the intervention on Sunday had been to clear the road for traffic, but declined to comment further.
Despite the raid, and the loss of their barricade, villagers said they would continue to press for the return of their land.
"We are still not happy because the land contract has not been returned to us. We are defending the village now with live-or-die determination," said the villager. He added that he expected more senior Communist Party leaders to make a decision.
The villagers have already won a partial victory. Li Baoyu, the head of the village committee who sold the land has been arrested and the authorities said they are seeking several others.
Meanwhile, the authorities in nearby Jieyang city have reportedly agreed to scrap the land deal, but are yet to deliver written proof to the villagers.
The protest was remarkably similar to the dispute in Wukan, just 100 kilometres away, in late 2011.
There, villagers forced through new democratic elections after chasing out the local Communist Party and successfully repelling the police for several weeks.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/chinese-villagers-at-war-with-army-over-land-deal-20130312-2fx8n.html#ixzz2NK3nw700

FTPRC.

ind_com
12th March 2013, 12:55
It is interesting to note the similarity between these issues in India and China that can provide golden opportunities to revolutionaries.

Per Levy
12th March 2013, 13:09
and to think that there are still people who call themselfs communists and think of the chinese system as some kind of socialism that is to be emulated and supported. anyway good luck to the villagers.


In late February, several hundred thugs armed with steel pipes and spades threatened the village with retribution if they did not accept the deal. The villagers, however, retaliated and chased the thugs away, burning many of their cars and then using the wrecks as a barricade to block the road.

hired thugs to break resistance, and if they dont succeed send the military. sounds almost like late 19th/early 20th century usa.

Flying Purple People Eater
12th March 2013, 14:40
It is interesting to note the similarity between these issues in India and China that can provide golden opportunities to revolutionaries.

extreme exploitation and lack of working-class rights + 2.6 billion people = Shit is going to hit the fan.

Tim Cornelis
12th March 2013, 17:14
I've seen someone refer to China on revleft as "possibly the most class conscious country in the world." In reality, free markets enjoys much higher popular support in China than in the United States (74% vs. 67%):

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/12/business/economy/economix-12freemarket/economix-12freemarket-blog480-v2.jpg

Imagine how awful their previous system must have been.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
12th March 2013, 17:32
I've seen someone refer to China on revleft as "possibly the most class conscious country in the world." In reality, free markets enjoys much higher popular support in China than in the United States (74% vs. 67%)

That is because many labour under the confusion that their current system is "socialism" and cast longing gazes at the U.S.A. and Europe as "actual capitalism". This will affect the results of useless polls like this.

cynicles
12th March 2013, 18:21
Given the technological discenpancies between the poor and middle classes in some of these countries I'm skeptical of these surveys. Did they ask anybody from rural areas or homeless people in majour cities how they felt or did they just phone up the local middle classes?

Brutus
12th March 2013, 18:26
I bet the workers prefered working for their country rather than apple

Tim Cornelis
12th March 2013, 18:34
Given the technological discenpancies between the poor and middle classes in some of these countries I'm skeptical of these surveys. Did they ask anybody from rural areas or homeless people in majour cities how they felt or did they just phone up the local middle classes?

Methodology: http://www.globescan.com/news_archives/demoquest_pipamark.html

In looking for the methodology I came across this hilarious quote:


"What worries me is Bush is very unpopular and people around the world know Bush is a Republican, and that Republicans support a free market, so therefore anything bad is the fault of free market systems," a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, Daniel Mitchell, said. "This study is very dour and pessimistic."

(from 2007)

Indeed, some worker from Brazil is not going to like free markets because of Bush. Both Americancentric and ignorant of social dynamics.

Red Commissar
12th March 2013, 18:46
This is similar to the Wukan protests two years back, or at least it reminds me of such. There's a similar impetus- anger at corrupt officials and the local authorities using their power to get land and then turn around to sell it to developers.

Question is whether or not these kinds of actions can coalesce into something larger, or if they'll be nipped in the bud like what happened with the Wukan protests.