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Zukunftsmusik
9th March 2013, 23:47
What is revleft's opinion on present punk? I listen to a lot of it, bands ranges from "hardcore" bands such as Haust and Okkultokrati, to more post-punk influenced bands such as White Lung, Iceage, to more straight-out punk bands such as Ceremony (many of these are bands I've discovered quite recently).

Some of these bands are accused of hipsterism, not beind punk enough etc. I disagree because punk is more about an attitude than the sound of it, most poeple who say such things listen to boring straight edge bands that copy the original straight edge sound, lyrics and so on.

Is it punk? Is it good?

Pirate Utopian
9th March 2013, 23:54
I like my share of current punk/hardcore bands. Good bands are good if you like them. I personally dont care if something is "true" enough.

Iceage is awesome.

Zukunftsmusik
10th March 2013, 00:07
I like my share of current punk/hardcore bands. Good bands are good if you like them. I personally dont care if something is "true" enough.

yeah, I agree. Dunno if I was expecting any other views than this, so the thread is kinda pointless I guess

Leftsolidarity
10th March 2013, 00:13
There are definitely still good punk bands around today but I'm not a big fan of any that you listed.

Zukunftsmusik
10th March 2013, 00:15
There are definitely still good punk bands around today but I'm not a big fan of any that you listed.

how about Fucked Up or Trash Talk?

Leftsolidarity
10th March 2013, 00:26
how about Fucked Up or Trash Talk?

Nah, I actually got into a fight with a bunch of scene kids who came for Trash Talk at a Leftover Crack show.

I'm into hardcore punk as in like 80's original hardcore style. I don't really care for the new "hardcore" stuff which is usually some strange mix of like grind, emo, punk, metal stuff.

Pirate Utopian
10th March 2013, 00:46
I saw Trash Talk open for Odd Future. It was pretty fun. I like them.

My favorite modern day post-punk band is Liars.

Jimmie Higgins
10th March 2013, 01:21
Yeah I don't like hardcore past the 80s and even some of that was kinda BS. I was always more into ideocyncratic bands and modern and 80s hardcore tended to sound too uniform. I guess I'm a hypocrite now because I like a lot of bands that sound like old school Ramones type punk: Nobunny, the Spits, Hunks and His Punx, etc.

I also like Garage-punk which is known for sounding similar, so I don't know. Maybe it's a reaction against the Emo-influences that have overtaken a lot of punk. I want music that I can sweat and fuck and do drugs to.

Yuppie Grinder
10th March 2013, 01:58
My favorite current punk bands are Cloud Rat, Alpinist, Young and in the Way, The Secret, and Nails.
Ceremony is very weak imo. Don't care much for Trash Talk either. I dig bands like Iceage and Lower but don't really consider them proper punk.

Yuppie Grinder
10th March 2013, 01:59
There's a disappointingly small amount of people on revleft who are into crust, grind, and powerviolence.

The Garbage Disposal Unit
10th March 2013, 03:09
1. I was in a power violence band called Welfare Wednesday. I was also in a not-power-violence band with similarly short songs called "Know Hope For The Skids". Our demo totally had fourteen songs in four-and-half minutes.

2. Fucked Up have not released anything worth listening to since 2005. Worst Toronto hipsters. Maybe you need to be from Canada to get it, but . . . actually the worst.

3. RVIVR!

Leftsolidarity
10th March 2013, 03:33
I like RVIVR

Futility Personified
10th March 2013, 03:48
I saw trash talk open for Gallows a few years ago, didn't vibe to it at all. Punk influence is not strong with them.... Would appreciate some contemporary UK punk though, but realistically Moral Dilemma are my fave "pure" band atm.

Leftsolidarity
10th March 2013, 04:42
I had no idea Trash Talk was such a well known band when I saw them. I actually thought they were some shitty local band. They had like 9 fans at the show and they all got beat up for being assholes.

redfist.
11th March 2013, 17:54
"hardcore" bands such as Haust and Okkultokrati

You don't happen to be norwegian? Okkultokrati have gotten hyped to a small degree in the international metal community, but I've never seen a Haust fan outside of Norway.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
14th March 2013, 00:12
I like Gallows. Or up until they changed lead singer. The first one was irreplaceable in my eyes, so much anger.

Sasha
14th March 2013, 01:08
This thread makes me feel old. The only band mentioned that I heard of is ceromony and I really didn't like them.

Futility Personified
14th March 2013, 01:38
I like Gallows. Or up until they changed lead singer. The first one was irreplaceable in my eyes, so much anger.
Yeah, Frank Carter was a legend. The Alexisonfire guy, never rated that band in
the first place, to be honest Gallows were especially good because as an English person I listen to mostly American punk, I love it musically but lyrically I do find some relatability issues. Gallows were miserable fucks and as a miserable fuck stuck in Grey Britain I really dug it. A lot of the punk scene is either speed rock, lacking in innovation or well, pretty much ska punk. Gallows singing about the fourth of july felt incredibly weird and the music blowed. Sad times. Still waiting for a group of angry youts to come along and do something inspired and brilliant, angry but not too thrashy, heavy but not metal, punk rock but not rock. They probably exist, and i'm just an ignorant mug, in which case someone needs to cure me.

Skyhilist
14th March 2013, 02:10
There's a disappointingly small amount of people on revleft who are into crust, grind, and powerviolence.

I'm somewhat into powerviolence bands like ACxDC... But yeah I think most people just hear it as "noise"

melvin
14th March 2013, 02:31
There's a disappointingly small amount of people on revleft who are into crust, grind, and powerviolence.Powerviolence and grindcore are my favorite subgenres of punk music, I am really into extreme music. Particularly bands that mix those styles with sludge metal influence.

Edit: Not so much crust, though.

Futility Personified
14th March 2013, 02:35
Oh fuck yeah, The Computers are awesome btw

Vladimir Innit Lenin
14th March 2013, 23:24
Yeah, Frank Carter was a legend. The Alexisonfire guy, never rated that band in
the first place, to be honest Gallows were especially good because as an English person I listen to mostly American punk, I love it musically but lyrically I do find some relatability issues. Gallows were miserable fucks and as a miserable fuck stuck in Grey Britain I really dug it. A lot of the punk scene is either speed rock, lacking in innovation or well, pretty much ska punk. Gallows singing about the fourth of july felt incredibly weird and the music blowed. Sad times. Still waiting for a group of angry youts to come along and do something inspired and brilliant, angry but not too thrashy, heavy but not metal, punk rock but not rock. They probably exist, and i'm just an ignorant mug, in which case someone needs to cure me.

Yeah, I love how Frank Carter seemed to revel in misery, kinda makes approaching the topic a bit more open and approachable I feel.

The King Blues would have been that band you're looking for, but Itch decided to go and make what is essentially punk music for popular distribution (not quite pop-punk but sort of went from having the band playing some sick punk/ska/reggae music to a sort of soloistic, R 'n' B and pop influenced punk, which just didn't work).

He fucked that shit up bad, their first two albums were really something. Third was average with a couple of very good songs. Couldn't even bring myself to listen to the fourth in its entirety, the couple of singles I listened to were so disgracefully bad.

Futility Personified
15th March 2013, 00:47
Yeah, TKB were really something special but what i've heard anecdotally about Itch is that he's a complete cock. I fucking loved that band, but even the second album was indicative of the decline. I love it, don't get me wrong but that extremely friendly pop vibe was present even if the music was tight. But notice, we're discussing 2 UK punk bands, but we're talking about a hardcore punk band and a folk/ska band!

foda
15th March 2013, 08:28
I'm into crack rock steady stuff like Ghetto Blaster, Leftover Crack and Morning Glory, even though Morning Gs new album sort of sounds more indie than punk. Crust punk is something that I do enjoy on occasion, though I only really listen to Doom and Disrupt. But other than that, I don't really enjoy any post-1986 hardcore bands.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
15th March 2013, 10:24
I liked some of the progression to a more punk sound on the 2nd record and even 3rd record - set the world on fire, the streets are ours, we are fucking angry. I thought they were great songs, but there was also a lot of dross came through, especially the 3rd album.

I actually brought myself to listen to the 4th album last night, just so indicative of their decline. I dunno if I believe everything people say about itch, but yeah he doesn't seem all that great tbh. To be fair to him, he was probably 'prolier than thou' in terms of his roots and for some reason his politics never quite seem to have caught up. Bad political education perhaps? Or the money? Apparently he's on like 7 grand per month or something. Who knows.

Punk for me (and I know this ain't popular with everyone) is more about teh spirit than the genre. I like some bands that obviously form part of the punk genre, but I also like bands, like TKB, whose music sometimes falls outside that genre (particularly those that overlap with folk rock) but are influenced by punk.

Zukunftsmusik
15th March 2013, 19:01
I apparently have bad taste


You don't happen to be norwegian? Okkultokrati have gotten hyped to a small degree in the international metal community, but I've never seen a Haust fan outside of Norway.

Yeah, as you can read from my location. Which happens to contain a Haust referance, actually.


Powerviolence and grindcore are my favorite subgenres of punk music, I am really into extreme music. Particularly bands that mix those styles with sludge metal influence.

Edit: Not so much crust, though.

Powerviolence and grindcore are subgenres of punk?

No_Leaders
19th March 2013, 03:38
Loveee punk. The crack rock steady type bands, Leftover Crack, Choking Victim, no-cash, The Infested, No Cops For Miles, Ghetto Blaster, The Dumpers, the Public Serpents. All good bands! I also am really into Propagandhi, MDC, Dead Kennedys, Subhumans, Fifteen, The Broadways, The Lawrence Arms, The Pist, Pinkerton Thugs. I could go on and on haha.

No_Leaders
19th March 2013, 03:41
Anyone like Aus-Rotten?

Zukunftsmusik
19th March 2013, 13:39
What about Creem? They're more "classic" punk/hardcore and they're great

Zukunftsmusik
19th March 2013, 13:40
3. RVIVR!

Tried to search for them, but couldn't find anything. Anyone knows if it's possible top listen to them online somewhere?

Leftsolidarity
20th March 2013, 08:45
Tried to search for them, but couldn't find anything. Anyone knows if it's possible top listen to them online somewhere?

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NoOneIsIllegal
22nd March 2013, 11:59
I've always been the resident screamo-kid wherever I go. A lot of those bands, especially pg.99, stressed that they were simply another punk rock band.
SO INTENSE
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Besides that, I've always been more into the faster, nastier side of punk rock. Stuff like 90s powerviolence, thrashcore, and crust punk are the good stuff . I started with 70s and 80s punk rock, went onto hardcore punk and the modern age of hardcore (late 90s to now), and just went from there.

Scholastic Deth is good stuff. Good punk rock that embraces their nerdy side
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But if I'm listening to punk, it needs to get dirty and crusty. Like...
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This is heavy, fast, and has violins!
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Here's a good anarchist band from Spain too. Insanely good.
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Crux
22nd March 2013, 13:05
http://www.theonion.com/articles/90s-punk-decries-punks-of-today,1486/?ref=auto

And uh I own LP's by Skitsystem, Totalt Jävla Mörker and Massgrav.
I know fuck all about any scenes though. New bands? never heard of them.


I'm somewhat into powerviolence bands like ACxDC... But yeah I think most people just hear it as "noise"
...I also like Merzbow.

Niall
26th March 2013, 13:34
Terror and Hatebreed!

The Douche
23rd April 2013, 16:03
Interesting to see so many people use the term "punk" to sort of refer to everything remotely related. But since lots of ya'll have been talking about the sort of dark/spooky fast hardcore stuff, this is a current band from my area, all super nice dudes and they tour constantly (including Europe) so all of you should see them when they come to your area:

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They also do a lot of noise stuff.

Calvin
8th May 2013, 09:00
Just listen to Culo. For sure one the best US punk bands doing things right now.

La Guaneña
10th May 2013, 11:52
I reccommend looking up these bands:

Direct Control (total 80s oldschool style stuff): Lu2hnBgVjho

Brat Pack (Fuck yeah rich kids on LSD): Ojyyzw5Er_E

Velho de Câncer (Reminds me of Rites of Spring): ufgUXBdAIVc

Tirei Zero (Fast simple no bullshit 80s hardcore): 9R5GwDxTWgo

These are some bands that have appeared recentely in the world and here in my country that I listen to daily.

La Guaneña
10th May 2013, 11:55
NuKea-i_p5A

Also ManLiftingBanner put ou a new double LP last year. Buy that shit.

Rusty Shackleford
10th May 2013, 12:42
Saw Sabertooth Zombie, Whiskey Rebels, and some other sacto area(broadly) bands once. was nice.

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Os Cangaceiros
10th May 2013, 19:08
I thought that Gallows weren't bad.

I also like Teenage Bottlerockets. I admittedly don't know much about modern punk, though.

Per Levy
10th May 2013, 19:47
mmh, the only bands of that time line i know and like are leftöver crack and witch hunt. then again im not that much into punk, im more the black metal head. but leftöver crack and witch hunt are really good though.