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Le Socialiste
8th March 2013, 03:57
Guess I wasn't expecting this to happen again:


CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's Hugo Chavez will be embalmed and put on display "for eternity" at a military museum after a state funeral and an extended period of lying in state, acting President Nicolas Maduro said on Thursday.

Huge crowds are still waiting to pay their respects to Chavez after his death this week, and Maduro said the move - reminiscent of the treatment of Communist leaders Lenin, Stalin and Mao after their deaths - would help keep the late president's self-declared socialist revolution alive.

"It has been decided that the body of the comandante will be embalmed so that it remains eternally on view for the people at the museum," Maduro told state TV.

Chavez, a former paratrooper, died on Tuesday aged 58 after a two-year battle with cancer. He was president for 14 years and is now lying in state at a military academy where the government says more than 2 million supporters have viewed it since Wednesday.

Maduro said Chavez's official funeral would go ahead on Friday, attended by about 30 leaders from around the world and that his body would then lie in state for a further seven days.

Huge lines snaked around the academy on Thursday as tens of thousands of Venezuelans shuffled forward to salute, raise clenched fists or make the sign of the cross over Chavez's casket.

From soldiers in fatigues to officers in ceremonial dress, to residents of the slums where Chavez was most loved, those in line vowed to defend his legacy and back Maduro, his preferred heir, in a new election.

"I arrived in the early hours to see Chavez. He is my personal idol," said Henry Acosta, 56.

A sobbing Berta Colmenares, 77, said "Chavistas" must throw their weight behind Maduro to carry on the revolution.

"I will vote for Maduro, who else? He is the one who Chavez chose and we have to follow his wish."

Chavez was dressed in an army uniform and a signature red beret like the one he wore in a 1992 speech to the nation that launched his political career after he led a failed coup.

People were given just a few seconds to glance at his body inside the relatively simple wooden coffin, which has a glass top and was draped in flowers and a Venezuelan flag.

One government source told Reuters that Chavez slipped into a coma on Monday and died the next day of respiratory failure after a rapid deterioration from the weekend, when he had held a five-hour meeting with ministers at his bedside.

The cancer had spread to his lungs, according to the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Rest of article here (http://news.yahoo.com/venezuelas-chavez-embalmed-public-view-022616369.html).

Skyhilist
8th March 2013, 04:00
A museum with his dead body in it forever for people to look at? That's pretty damn creepy...

La Guaneña
8th March 2013, 04:01
Damn, that's terrible.

And as a Christian, Isn't he supposed to be buried?

Yuppie Grinder
8th March 2013, 04:01
Fucking stupid.

Le Socialiste
8th March 2013, 04:02
A museum with his dead body in it forever for people to look at? That's pretty damn creepy...

You're telling me:

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s5/101629/full/lenin_body.jpg

Os Cangaceiros
8th March 2013, 06:47
It's pretty ironic that the so-called followers of an ideology that claims to not worship great individuals mummifies and/or deifies them.

Let's Get Free
8th March 2013, 06:49
At this very moment the CIA is plotting a coup to topple the body and replace it with a junta.

GPDP
8th March 2013, 06:51
It's as if they asked themselves "GodDAMN, how stereotypically socialist can we possibly get today? I know, let's deify a Great Leader and embalm him just like Lenin!"

Now I'm not gonna hear the end of it from my family. Already they won't shut up about Chavez supposedly remarking that the US gave him cancer.

Revy
8th March 2013, 08:19
I hope Maduro is not the next PSUV Presidential candidate.

Aurora
8th March 2013, 19:15
Damn, that's terrible.

And as a Christian, Isn't he supposed to be buried?
Aren't the popes embalmed and put in St Peters or something?

Le Socialiste
8th March 2013, 19:27
I hope Maduro is not the next PSUV Presidential candidate.

All indicators point to him filling that role. Chavez did appoint him as VP as his unofficial 'successor' after all.

sixdollarchampagne
8th March 2013, 19:59
You're telling me:

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s5/101629/full/lenin_body.jpg

The Lenin Mausoleum was what came to mind as soon as I read that Chávez was to be embalmed. Poor old Lenin and Chávez (and Ho Chi Minh) deserve to decompose privately, as the human beings they were, instead of this macabre, ersatz attempt at deification.

One of the best ideas about burial I ever heard, comes from observant Judaism, where holes are put in the coffin, so that natural decomposition processes can take their course. That's WAY better than this revolting display.

Leftsolidarity
9th March 2013, 06:03
I don't find that weird.....

The man was an icon and a big symbol to a lot of people. I don't think it's strange for them to honor that.

LOLseph Stalin
9th March 2013, 06:06
Honouring the man is one thing, but embalming him? There's many ways to honour icons without preserving them to put on display. This doesn't exactly reflect well on socialism either, an ideology that is supposed to be about the people rather than an all-powerful leader.

Die Neue Zeit
9th March 2013, 06:41
One of the best ideas about burial I ever heard, comes from observant Judaism, where holes are put in the coffin, so that natural decomposition processes can take their course. That's WAY better than this revolting display.

Even better: Why are corpses placed in wooden caskets and not cardboard boxes? That's environmentally friendlier.

LOLseph Stalin
9th March 2013, 06:49
Even better: Why are corpses placed in wooden caskets and not cardboard boxes? That's environmentally friendlier.

Before I die I want to make it a point of ensuring I'm buried in a biodegradable casket. I'd prefer my body to just decay back into the earth along with the casket.

Raúl Duke
9th March 2013, 08:08
Before I die I want to make it a point of ensuring I'm buried in a biodegradable casket. I'd prefer my body to just decay back into the earth along with the casket.

I heard of this thing were one's remains are put inside this small biodegrade cylinder thing that when buried it grows into a tree. If I was buried, this is how I would prefer.

Although, for now, I prefer to be cremated and, if possible, launched into space.

I feel that this idea about embalming Chavez is pretty stupid. Also it may backfire, Lenin's body uses special preservatives and such that may (I heard) have become lost information and probably not too easy to replicate. So I imagine Chavez may end up decomposing in full view, that could be a possibility.

sixdollarchampagne
9th March 2013, 16:38
Even better: Why are corpses placed in wooden caskets and not cardboard boxes? That's environmentally friendlier.

As I walked into town yesterday, I was thinking about poor comandante Chávez on display, in some kind of mausoleum, and then I wondered, why use coffins at all? Wouldn't decomposition be accelerated by simply putting the corpse in the ground? But that is something I don't know anything about (as a former humanities major).

Die Neue Zeit
9th March 2013, 18:00
Well, the culturally decent thing to do is to put the corpse inside some sort of container. You don't just throw bodies into holes dug into the ground.

Devrim
9th March 2013, 18:05
As I walked into town yesterday, I was thinking about poor comandante Chávez on display, in some kind of mausoleum, and then I wondered, why use coffins at all? Wouldn't decomposition be accelerated by simply putting the corpse in the ground? But that is something I don't know anything about (as a former humanities major).

Muslims don't use coffins to bury bodies. They bury bodies in just a shroud. While in some Muslim countries you do see bodies in coffins at the funerals, they are taken out before burial.

Devrim

Leftsolidarity
11th March 2013, 05:07
Deleted off-topic picture post.

Rugged Collectivist
11th March 2013, 05:33
I don't like it but it's better than burial. At least you can still see the person after all. Burial and mausoleums are a waste of space. Land should be used by the living.

When I die I want to be frozen, in the hope that scientists will be able to revive me and put my brain into a hella sick robot. Failing that I want to be cremated. maybe kept in a nice, forgotten urn in my kids basement or scattered to the wind.

Orange Juche
18th March 2013, 18:07
When I die I want to be frozen

The "science" behind that is actually pseudo-science, even if a way to do that and bring a person back ever becomes viable, the way they do it may not be viable. They just do a procedure that may or may not work, regardless of if we ever get to the point of freezing people.

Brutus
18th March 2013, 18:14
I couldn't give a toss what happens when I die- i will be dead.

Le Libérer
21st March 2013, 03:54
Before I die I want to make it a point of ensuring I'm buried in a biodegradable casket. I'd prefer my body to just decay back into the earth along with the casket.

After overseeing RS2Ks death arrangements, I plan to follow his lead and donate my body to science. They cremate remains, and the next of kin gets them after the medical school is done with the cadaver. This way I will not be a financial burden on my children and in death possibly be of use.

Le Libérer
21st March 2013, 03:56
As I walked into town yesterday, I was thinking about poor comandante Chávez on display, in some kind of mausoleum, and then I wondered, why use coffins at all? Wouldn't decomposition be accelerated by simply putting the corpse in the ground? But that is something I don't know anything about (as a former humanities major).

In the US, it is illegal due to sanitation issues.