Aren't trigger warnings kind of ridiculous?

[The Machine]

The whole feminist practice of posting "trigger warnings" before talking about rape is no doubt well-intentioned, but how does it actually help? It's just a form of treating rape victims like children rather than adults. It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before trailers for war movies, or before fireworks demonstrations to make sure war veterans never have a ptsd flashback. It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before car commercials because of the number of victims of horrific car accidents who have ptsd. Obviously rape and ptsd are huge problems in society but I find it patronizing to "flashback-proof" everything, especially since flashbacks can be triggered by pretty much anything to my understanding.

[Ele'ill]

The whole feminist practice of posting "trigger warnings" before talking about rape is no doubt well-intentioned, but how does it actually help? It's just a form of treating rape victims like children rather than adults. It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before trailers for war movies, or before fireworks demonstrations to make sure war veterans never have a ptsd flashback. It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before car commercials because of the number of victims of horrific car accidents who have ptsd. Obviously rape and ptsd are huge problems in society but I find it patronizing to "flashback-proof" everything, especially since flashbacks can be triggered by pretty much anything to my understanding.

Before showing or talking about graphic depiction of war, abuse, rape when meeting and talking in safe spaces I think it makes perfect sense. It also isn't just feminists as you've just said yourself with your example of war movies. So how about instead of another crusade you instead justify not using trigger warnings in settings where it may blind side some folks.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Why do you always find reasons to argue with people concerned about sexual inequality?

[Sasha]

Why do you always find reasons to argue with people concerned about sexual inequality?

"#team*******" and "the boys club" should be dead give aways...

[The Machine]

Before showing or talking about graphic depiction of war, abuse, rape when meeting and talking in safe spaces I think it makes perfect sense. It also isn't just feminists as you've just said yourself with your example of war movies. So how about instead of another crusade you instead justify not using trigger warnings in settings where it may blind side some folks.

It's not a crusade, it's just an observation. I've never encountered trigger warnings outside of the radical left, and my examples of war movies and car commercials were of things that don't have trigger warnings. It would be fucking ridiculous if before a car or a war movie was shown on TV they had a trigger warning. I also have yet to see any actual scientific evidence that shows that they are in any way valuable.

[Lobotomy]

You're right, rape survivors should just put up with whatever potentially traumatic peice of information or media that society throws at them, because its obviously more important for you to not occasionaly feel a twinge of annoyance at that simple phrase.

[Art Vandelay]

I almost got the axe during that whole ******* stuff, but I wasn't ever sexist. To honest though, like already stated, this isn't simply used by feminists, but also by many others. I have also posted on a mental health forum in the past and whenever someone makes a thread about a suicide attempt or self harm, it is customary to put trigger warnings.

Why not just look at it like this, is it that hard to add trigger warnings? No. So even if it is largely ineffective (although this isn't what I am arguing) if even one person is saved from having a flashback to a traumatic experience, then it was worth it.

[The Machine]

Why do you always find reasons to argue with people concerned about sexual inequality?

im a manarchist because domination by the feminazis is the highest stage of capital. join the struggle for mens rights today.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

What's the Boys Club? Is that a real thing or a joke?

[Art Vandelay]

It's not a crusade, it's just an observation. I've never encountered trigger warnings outside of the radical left, and my examples of war movies and car commercials were of things that don't have trigger warnings. It would be fucking ridiculous if before a car or a war movie was shown on TV they had a trigger warning. I also have yet to see any actual scientific evidence that shows that they are in any way valuable.

See my post above, trigger warnings aren't solely used among the radical left. You've yet to see any scientific evidence that they are valuable? Well show us some that it is not. Like I said, even if it only helps one person, its worth it. How hard is it to two those two words?

[The Machine]

I almost got the axe during that whole ******* stuff, but I wasn't ever sexist. To honest though, like already stated, this isn't simply used by feminists, but also by many others. I have also posted on a mental health forum in the past and whenever someone makes a thread about a suicide attempt or self harm, it is customary to put trigger warnings.

fair enough. i've only encountered it on feminist websites.


Why not just look at it like this, is it that hard to add trigger warnings? No. So even if it is largely ineffective (although this isn't what I am arguing) if even one person is saved from having a flashback to a traumatic experience, then it was worth it.

this is shitty logic though, should i stop using the word gun because it probably triggers flashbacks for someone out there? i mean if even one person was saved...

[Lobotomy]

There are also often trigger warnings on Internet discussions about eating disorders, fyi

[Yuppie Grinder]

im a manarchist because domination by the feminazis is the highest stage of capital. join the struggle for mens rights today.

yr trolling game is pretty weak tbh

[Sasha]

im a manarchist because domination by the feminazis is the highest stage of capital. join the struggle for mens rights today.

Bye... Enjoy your ban... Sheesh.

[Art Vandelay]

this is shitty logic though, should i stop using the word gun because it probably triggers flashbacks for someone out there? i mean if even one person was saved...

Bahah you want to accuse me of shitty logic and then go on to use the slippery slope fallacy. Those are two extremely different situations and the correlation is not what your pretending it to be.

[Art Vandelay]

Well this didn't last long, good riddance after seeing this:


im a manarchist because domination by the feminazis is the highest stage of capital. join the struggle for mens rights today.

[Yuppie Grinder]

He was for sure trying to piss people off, but his sexual politics were awfully shit really. He pretty much only stopped by occasionally to stir up shit. Good riddance.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Seriously, does anyone know what the fuck the Boys Club was?

[Art Vandelay]

Seriously, does anyone know what the fuck the Boys Club was?

I don't think its a real thing.

[#FF0000]

Seriously, does anyone know what the fuck the Boys Club was?

A joke. People would complain that chit chat or something was too much of a "boys club" or whatever.

also i think he was joking about the mens rights thing.

That being said I'm gonna respond anyway because hopefully he's still checking this thread out and I want to clear up his hella basic misunderstandings.


The whole feminist practice of posting "trigger warnings" before talking about rape is no doubt well-intentioned, but how does it actually help? It's just a form of treating rape victims like children rather than adults.Nah it's just letting people know "Yo there's some difficult subject matter ahead".


It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before trailers for war movies1) Trigger warnings are pretty much only for "safe spaces" and no one on Earth wants to put them everywhere in society at large. I'm really not sure where you got this idea anyway.
2) They already sort of do. Like on TV when there's gonna be a graphic program on, they have the "VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED" thing.


or before fireworks demonstrations to make sure war veterans never have a ptsd flashback.They usually let people know there's gonna be a fireworks display, because aside from people who deal with PTSD, there's other people who just don't like fireworks and explosions, or who have kids who don't like them or something.

EDIT: But even so, no one is calling for this sort of thing anyway -- and firework shows aren't generally things people surprise others with.


It would be ridiculous if there were trigger warnings before car commercials because of the number of victims of horrific car accidents who have ptsd. Already addressed it but I want to drive the point home: Nobody is calling for this or suggesting this. "Trigger warnings" are pretty much only for 'safe spaces'.


Obviously rape and ptsd are huge problems in society but I find it patronizing to "flashback-proof" everything, especially since flashbacks can be triggered by pretty much anything to my understanding. Pretty sure it's not just for flashbacks (panic-attacks, etc.) but that's beside the point. No one wants to put trigger warnings everywhere in society.

EDIT: That being said, seeing "TRIGGER WARNING" really grates on me because I don't think the term is even necessary. Literally just say "Warning" and you've communicated the same thing. Same with "problematic". I feel like they're words that someone can used to feel like they're so enlightened and progressive without having to actually understand anything, you guys know what I mean?

[zoot_allures]

I fucking hate strobe lights. I've wondered if maybe I have some kind of photosensitive epilepsy, but the doctors don't seem to think so - I'm just really sensitive to flickering lights.

My life would be improved very much if people would just say "btw, there are strobe lights in here" before anything that contains strobe lights. Most people don't bother.

I'd like it if people would do that for me. It seems to me only fair to extend the same courtesy to others who have similar problems. What's so bad about putting a trigger warning before a trailer for a war movie? I'd sure like it if they put in "trigger warnings" for trailers containing flashing lights.

[#FF0000]

I'm pretty sure they do let people know if they're gonna be showing things that could trigger a seizure -- and I think most people know when they're about to see a war movie

[Sasha]

I fucking hate strobe lights. I've wondered if maybe I have some kind of photosensitive epilepsy, but the doctors don't seem to think so - I'm just really sensitive to flickering lights.

My life would be improved very much if people would just say "btw, there are strobe lights in here" before anything that contains strobe lights. Most people don't bother.

I'd like it if people would do that for me. It seems to me only fair to extend the same courtesy to others who have similar problems. What's so bad about putting a trigger warning before a trailer for a war movie? I'd sure like it if they put in "trigger warnings" for trailers containing flashing lights.


if we have shows at my work with excessive strobes or very high DB's we do put up notes and its always ground to ask for you money back.

on a more activist note, when we have our yearly newyears demonstration at the prison for illegalised's we alway request that people dont bring noisy fireworks because of the many PTSD's under the refugees.

[Quail]

I think trigger warnings are quite useful. I'd rather people erred on the side of caution when warning about the content of an article, tv show or whatever. It's good to have that on a bad day so that you can try and steer clear of stuff that is going to be upsetting. It's really shit when something takes you by surprise.

[zoot_allures]

I'm pretty sure they do let people know if they're gonna be showing things that could trigger a seizure
People do sometimes, but more often than not they don't, at least in my experience (I don't know if I have seizures - as I said, the doctor doesn't think it's epilepsy, and when I checked the symptoms of seizures online, my reaction doesn't seem to match any - but flashing lights do cause quite strong, negative reactions). It's especially a problem on the internet, when people link to webpages and videos and such. It happens with tv, cinemas, concerts and so on too, though - people just won't bother to mention when there are about to be flashing lights.