the shocking future of handcuffs: electrocution, drug injection

[bcbm]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2246290/The-shocking-future-handcuffs-Police-soon-armed-restraints-electrocute-prisoners.html

[The Machine]

for whatever reason, seeing that the daily mail which for all intents and purposes is the english national enquirer or new york post, has a science section made me think of the monty python and the holy grail scene: "who are you who is so wise in the ways of science"

[Mather]

for whatever reason, seeing that the daily mail which for all intents and purposes is the english national enquirer or new york post, has a science section made me think of the monty python and the holy grail scene: "who are you who is so wise in the ways of science"

Usually I would agree with you on this point but given that there has been so much of this type of tech (surveillance, 'law' enforcement and social control) being developed recently, I think this one is for real.

Fucking disgusting anyways, the arsehole scientists who developed this should hang their fucking heads in shame but somehow I feel the little shits won't.

PS: If the 'criminal' has already been cuffed, why the need for this crap in the first place?

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Usually I would agree with you on this point but given that there has been so much of this type of tech (surveillance, 'law' enforcement and social control) being developed recently, I think this one is for real.

Then why aren't they already available? It's not as if the technology involved hasn't been around for at least two decades already.


Fucking disgusting anyways, the arsehole scientists who developed this should hang their fucking heads in shame but somehow I feel the little shits won't.

Let's be clear here; they haven't built a working device so far as I can tell, rather what's happened is that there has been a patent application. Potentially being able to profit off torture devices, while a fucking grim prospect, is better than such things being made in actuality. Anyone who builds and sells such devices will have to pay the patent holder to do so legally, which hopefully means actual examples of this torture device won't be seen much if at all.

Also, it's far more likely to be an engineer, rather than a scientist, that made the design. This torture device uses no previously-unknown physical principles. I don't think scientists should be excoriated for the misdeeds of engineers.


PS: If the 'criminal' has already been cuffed, why the need for this crap in the first place?

No idea, which is why I consider shit like this, along with Tasers, to be torture devices.

[Mather]

Then why aren't they already available? It's not as if the technology involved hasn't been around for at least two decades already.

Read the article, these cuffs have just been developed and have only just come out. Hence their patent application as they now have an eye to put this to production.


Let's be clear here; they haven't built a working device so far as I can tell, rather what's happened is that there has been a patent application. Potentially being able to profit off torture devices, while a fucking grim prospect, is better than such things being made in actuality. Anyone who builds and sells such devices will have to pay the patent holder to do so legally, which hopefully means actual examples of this torture device won't be seen much if at all.

I hope your right, but a whole load of other nasty shit has made it through into everyday use from tasers to CS spray so maybe this is something to be worried about.


Also, it's far more likely to be an engineer, rather than a scientist, that made the design. This torture device uses no previously-unknown physical principles. I don't think scientists should be excoriated for the misdeeds of engineers.

What about the sedative drug in the cuffs, more likely a scientist did that bit as engineers have neither the expertise or qualifications to deal with that. In any case, fuck the engineers and scientists who are behind this.


No idea, which is why I consider shit like this, along with Tasers, to be torture devices.

Yup. No matter how much one beats around the bush, these are torture devices pure and simple.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Read the article, these cuffs have just been developed and have only just come out. Hence their patent application as they now have an eye to put this to production.

My understanding of how product design and implementation works is that one gets the patents in first, before anyone else has the same idea and goes to the patent office with it.


I hope your right, but a whole load of other nasty shit has made it through into everyday use from tasers to CS spray so maybe this is something to be worried about.

Stuff like this makes me feel like I'm living inside a dystopian cyberpunk novel though because it seems like its taking things to a whole new level - CS gas and Tasers do one thing in a fairly simple manner. Shit like this on the other hand does multiple things in a complex manner, a disturbing degree of artifice for such base purposes.


What about the sedative drug in the cuffs, more likely a scientist did that bit as engineers have neither the expertise or qualifications to deal with that. In any case, fuck the engineers and scientists who are behind this.

Unless they're using some proprietary formula, they'll be using some sedative which likely has a legitimate medical purpose, I'm guessing. Unless there already exists a formulation of sedative used exclusively for such chemical battery...

[bcbm]

Stuff like this makes me feel like I'm living inside a dystopian cyberpunk novel

nah, those usually sound less scary than our world

[LOLseph Stalin]

Handcuffs that electrocute you? Well shit, seems pretty redundant since you already can't move much when you're handcuffed. There's really little chance of fighting back with them on so what are the pigs so afraid of? Seriously?

[bcbm]

Handcuffs that electrocute you? Well shit, seems pretty redundant since you already can't move much when you're handcuffed. There's really little chance of fighting back with them on so what are the pigs so afraid of? Seriously?

theyre afraid the arrest wont be traumatic enough on you

[o well this is ok I guess]

Handcuffs that electrocute you? Well shit, seems pretty redundant since you already can't move much when you're handcuffed. There's really little chance of fighting back with them on so what are the pigs so afraid of? Seriously? It's the same principle as a shock collar. By giving a shock whenever behaviour is deemed unacceptable (this means any behaviour, not just resisting arrest), the police can deliver a shock, which I suppose is considered more "humane" than a whack from a baton.
Here's a hypothetical example: if the handcuffs deliver a shock every time the arrestee is a certain distance from the officer, there would be no need to physical restrain him. A policeman could walk an arrestee to the squad car or police van without having to even touch him.