Lenin was killed by an anarchist

[The Feral Underclass]

Lenin died of a stroke after a failed operation to remove a bullet after an attempted assasination by an anarchist....

[LSD]

He actually died because he was a bad politician.

If the Bolsheviks had won a majority of the Constituent Assembly, he woudn't of dissolved it and Kaplan never would of shot him. Of course, it's quite possible that someone else would have found a reason to shoot him (there were many).

[canikickit]

Typical Eastern propaganda.

An anarchist woman. (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSkaplan.htm)

It was some four years later that he died though.

My name is Fanya Kaplan. Today I shot at Lenin. I did it on my own. I will not say whom I obtained my revolver. I will give no details. I had resolved to kill Lenin long ago. I consider him a traitor to the Revolution. I was exiled to Akatoi for participating in an assassination attempt against a Tsarist official in Kiev. I spent eleven years at hard labour. After the Revolution I was freed. I favoured the Constituent Assembly and am still for it.

[The Feral Underclass]

He actually died because he was a bad politician.

:lol: I like that.........


I suppose you could blame the whole stalinist Russia debacle indirectly on the anarchists.........damn those pesky anarchists!!!

[The Feral Underclass]

The attempt on Lenin's life and the assassination of Moisei Uritsky, chief of the Petrograd Secret Police, marked the beginning of the Red Terror. It is estimated that in the next few months 800 socialists were arrested and shot without trial. In the first year the official figure, almost certainly an underestimate, suggested 6,300 people were executed without trial.

It just proves everytihng dosnt it....So much for Workers liberation!!!

[The Feral Underclass]

Lenin and Leon Trotsky argued that unless internal opposition to the government was removed the White Army would win the Civil War. The Constituent Assembly was closed down and political parties such as the Cadets, Mensheviks and the Socialist Revolutionaries were banned. Strict censorship was also introduced with all anti-Bolshevik newspapers being closed down.

:angry: What was this revolution for?

The Red Terror (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSterror.htm)

[canikickit]

I suppose you could blame the whole stalinist Russia debacle indirectly on the anarchists

Indirectly? What nonsense. The blame for Stalin's policys is clearly at the feet of anarchists everywhere. And women, don't forget the women.

[The Feral Underclass]

those pesky women!!!

[Jesus Christ]

honestly, I wanna hear a Stalinists view on this and see if they actually would say that Trotsky shot Lenin lol

[YKTMX]

Oooo, Robert Conquest lives!

Firstly, the dissolution of the CA was a non-event in Russia. The Bolsheviks realised that the counter-revolutionaries would use the CA as a rallying point and dissolved it for this reason, not because they "lost" the election. Incidentally, Rosa Luxembourg herself criticized Lenin for this, what happened to her? She was murdered by forces lead by the Constituent Assembly after the revolution in Germany. Funny that eh?

As far the attempt on Lenins life is concerned. We all know anarchists have a cetain fondness for grandstanding and "glorious" revolutionary actions like shooting Marxist leaders so this action is hardly suprising. Funny how they criticize the Bolshies for shooting opponents but not this women eh. Ahh good old anarchists, always game for a bit of hypocrisy.

Freedom, boo hoo, free press, bloody Leninist, blurb.

[Morpheus]

Zhelezniakov, an anarchist sailor from Krondstadt, led the detachment that dispersed the Constituent Assembly. Unlike the Bolsheviks, Anarchists had always opposed the constituent assembly - its purpose, after all, was to establish a state and consequently the rule of a small elite over the majority. Russian anarchists were opposed to even holding the elections for the Constituent Assembly, whereas the Bolsheviks only turned against the Constituent Assembly when it was clear that it wouldn’t do what they wanted. Anarchists wanted to take this a step further, dissolving the Sovnarkom and abolishing the Soviet state.

Prior to the revolution the Bolsheviks had criticized the provisional government for its failure to hold elections for the Constituent Assembly. The Bolsheviks hoped that electoral victory in the Constituent Assembly would solidify the power of the Soviet government and held elections to the Assembly on November 12th. The socialist parties won overwhelmingly, although the Bolsheviks did not gain a majority as they had hoped. The Bolsheviks received 24 percent of the vote, the SRs 38 percent, the Mensheviks 3 percent, and the Ukrainian SRs 12 percent. The Kadets (liberal capitalists) received only 5 percent of the vote.

The election to the constituent Assembly was not an entirely fair election on account of the split in the SRs. The left SRs officially split from the SR party just after the election lists had been drawn up and were therefore unable to run their own slate. The right SRs also had a greater control over the party nominating mechanisms then their support warranted. As a result the right SRs were over-represented in the Constituent Assembly. Because the left SRs were pro-October and the right SRs were anti-October this was not a minor difference. Had the left SRs been able to run their own slate in the election there would probably have been more left SRs and less right SRs in it, especially if there had been enough time to conduct a lengthy electoral campaign against the right SRs. It is not unlikely that had the left SRs run their own slate the Bolsheviks could have formed a majority coalition with them, having the Constituent Assembly rubber-stamp the Soviet government and dissolve.

Having failed to gain a majority in the Constituent Assembly, the Bolsheviks decided it should be disbanded. After losing the election, Lenin now argued that Soviet democracy represented a higher form of democracy than the parliamentary democracy of the Constituent Assembly. This argument was not without merit, since Soviet representatives could theoretically be recalled although bourgeoisie (and allied strata) could not vote in Soviet elections, but if Soviet democracy were a better form of democracy then elections to the Constituent Assembly should have never been held in the first place - which was the anarchist position. The right-wing socialists whined about the closure of the Constituent Assembly, but most ordinary Russians weren’t very bothered by it. Even the capitalist historian Orlando Figes admits this in his book on the Revolution.

The woman who shot Lenin wasn't an anarchist, she was an SR. The right SRs were waging war against the Bolsheviks at this time and had set up their own alternative government, the Komuch, at Samara. The SRs were pissed about the closing of the Constituent Assembly because they won the elections. There were about 20 different anti-Bolshevik governments at this time, ranging from Monarchists to right-wing socialists, all fighting a civil war with the Bolsheviks. They merged together in September 1918. The new united anti-Bolshevik state was ruled by the directory, a council of five people, three of which were right SRs. The Kadets and much of the right called for a strong one-man dictatorship and they soon got their wish. Not long after forming the directory Admiral Kolchak led a coup against it and established a brutal right-wing military dictatorship run by closet Monarchists. Thus the Whites were born.

There's a big difference between shooting government officials and governments suppressing dissidents. There's nothing immoral about shooting government officials, but the inverse is wrong. One is the oppressed rebelling against the oppressor, the other is the oppressor attacking the oppressed.