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Willin'
23rd February 2013, 13:02
I'm not religious but what if god does exist and is really just another peon in a vast universe of gods. Do you think he/she, in turn, would believe in a god that created him and rules his universe?


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LOLseph Stalin
23rd February 2013, 22:40
This really goes back to the whole "who created God?" argument. However, assuming there's an even larger force out there then there would have to be another that created that. It's an infinite cycle that just keeps going on so no, I don't think God believes in a god unless he's a narcissist and believes in himself.

Mass Grave Aesthetics
23rd February 2013, 22:50
a religios person would tell you that you are not meant to understand everything; logic being a poor substitude for faith and all that, and a hegelian would tell you god created the universe simply to actualise himself as god and get to know himself through his creations.
I think god is indeed aware of his/her existence but I doubt he/she is the petty narcissist christians make him/her out to be.

Brutus
24th February 2013, 00:18
If there is a god, then god will believe in himself, unless he thinks we're all a dream of a space slug

Lither
24th February 2013, 01:24
This really goes back to the whole "who created God?" argument. However, assuming there's an even larger force out there then there would have to be another that created that. It's an infinite cycle that just keeps going on so no, I don't think God believes in a god unless he's a narcissist and believes in himself.

To knowledge the Catholics (I only know this from being shipped off to a Catholic school in my youth, so I can't speak for any other denomination) believe that God has always existed and exists in a manner that can be best summed up as outside of time.

From that point of view, that God would probably not believe in another God. Especially since God is quite clear that God is the only God in existence.

B5C
26th February 2013, 18:34
This may answer your question:

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Astarte
4th March 2013, 01:41
I'm not religious but what if god does exist and is really just another peon in a vast universe of gods. Do you think he/she, in turn, would believe in a god that created him and rules his universe?


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You raise an interesting theological question that actually has been addressed before, namely by the Gnostics. In gnosticism the "God" that created the physical world was an offspring of the higher Aeons, namely Wisdom or "Sophia", who "had a thought without the permission of Perfection (Barbello)". Sophia and Barbello are immaterial "Aeons" which mean they reside above the "8th sphere of Heaven" or the layer of the fixed stars - which is just a fancy way of saying they reside outside of the material reality. Now, this god, which was a bastard-spawn of Sophia was by nature impure and corrupt since it was created without Perfection. At first this "God" or otherwise known as the Demiurge which created the material world resided in a thick cloud of reflecting fog and did not believe anything in creation could be or was higher than itself. One day it so happened that the Demiurge caught a glimpse, accidentally, of the higher immaterial Aeons, and from that time forward it reluctantly was forced to acknowledge the existence of higher Creators that it owed its existence to. So, in short, the answer to your question is yes, according to many cosmologies there is a vast hierarchy of a kind of unfoldment of deities, though there is usually at the top of these hierarchies a self-created Monad-like singularity - and the only thing this self-created deity is said to owe its existence to is the Primordial Chaos.

Astarte
5th March 2013, 02:43
This may answer your question:

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It was good until the last layer - then it all turned out to be BS.

rylasasin
8th March 2013, 02:05
It was good until the last layer - then it all turned out to be BS.

care to elaborate?

Astarte
8th March 2013, 17:15
care to elaborate?

However you most think I meant it is how I most likely meant it. I doubt it was the intention of the author of the video to create an allegory of the old maxim "Man is the God of the world, and God is the man of Heaven", but really it does this well, although completely unwittingly and unconsciously while at the same time badly contradicting itself.

B5C
10th March 2013, 23:50
It was good until the last layer - then it all turned out to be BS.

Well the point of the video that humans are technically god's gods because we invented gods for our purpose to understand the unknown.

Rafiq
10th March 2013, 23:58
Well the point of the video that humans are technically god's gods because we invented gods for our purpose to understand the unknown.

That's a bit simplistic, though. Gods weren't simply constructed to 'explain what we didn't know'. This is not an exception regarding a class analysis.

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