WWIII Has Arrived

[Dreadnaht1]

Allright, I know how we're all fired up and definetly focused in on the War On Terrorism in Afghanistan, as the empire strikes back, but I think what the world really needs to focus on is the war about to occur in Israel. A few days ago, as I'm sure you all know, Israel fired missiles at Yassar Araphat that came within 50 meters of putting him everywhere at once. So after he's done soiling himself he sends another suicide bomber out this morning and decides to kill more innocent Jews. If this continues to escalate then it could very easily turn into WWIII. With The involvement of most of the middle East and eventually America (when they stop beating on Afghanistan) and Britain we could easily have a magor war. Since Israel most likely has nuclear weapons and we know for sure that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction this could be a problem, if another foreign power doesn't get some sense (and some balls) to intervene and try to make peace.

Just thought I'd bring this to everyone's focus on this message board.

As Ghandi once said "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

Comrade Dread

[Son of Scargill]

But who has got the balls?Blair certainly hasn't,and Kofi Annan has rolled over to every US request so far.With both the US and Israeli governments accusing anyone who dissents of being a traitor,things do not look good for the future of humanity.

[Kez]

The way to solve the question is to get rid of the ziononists in Israel, and what follows will be peaceful palestine and israel selling melons to each other :)

comrade kamo

[Kez]

Also, i dont think that there will be a WW3, as it wont be a world war, just american imperialism.
comrade kamo

[Moskitto]

certainly what the Isreal/Palistine area needs is probably a secular society.

If it's Muslim the Jews would get persecuted

If it's Jewish the Muslims would get persecuted

therefore it should really be neither.

Or have 1 area call Palistine and one called Israel and tell them to leave each other alone.

[Derar]

And ofcourse that will never happen , becoz the israelis r the greadiest ppl on earth ........ they want the whole land not just israel ....... do u know that the israeli fanatics ... the rabiees or whatever , they say that israel land extends from morocco till iraq , and that it should be taken from the arabs .......... and ofcourse u all know that these fanatics control the government of israel !!
so for them there is no peace , until the whole world is under their hands !

[Moskitto]

where the hell did anyone get the idea that israel spreads from morroco to iraq?

The Bible (Tohah) probably

Yeah if you've read the bible it mentions Israel being in generally the area that it's currently in.

But Morroco, The Israelis were slaves in Egypt so that isn't right.

And they were slaves in Babylon (Iraq).

So in short, anyone who thinks that don't know what they're talking about.

Anyway, Islam in it's true form is a good religion, It respects Judaism and Christianity. Even to the extent that Muslims living in Jewish areas can eat Kosher foods.

Judaism is supposed to just be a moral code not a religion to fanatically and blindly follow.

Fanatics spoil everything these day.

[libereco]

dude i don't think arafat is sending the kamikazee guys...it seems more liike he has trouble keeping some control over the hamas.

[booga]

Quote: from Dreadnaht1 on 5:14 pm on Dec. 5, 2001
Since Israel most likely has nuclear weapons and we know for sure that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction this could be a problem, if another foreign power doesn't get some sense (and some balls) to intervene and try to make peace.

Just thought I'd bring this to everyone's focus on this message board.

As Ghandi once said "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind."

Comrade Dread


yah, thanks, im so busy living my life that exposure to this type of stuff i have to appreciate because i just dont have the time to seek it out myself. dont get me wrong i try to stay aware on whats going on i guess thats why i come to this site.

well dont ask americans because most already feel they are doing their part by waving the flag, (yah, they even fly them on their fancy expensive cars) man, right now all you see is the american flag, and bumper stickers that say "dont f*ck with america" and "God bless america" yet they forget that on all our currency we have alot of balls to say "In God we trust" i dunno maybe we do, I do, trust in God that is. so why do i want to hate anybody from any country just because their beliefs are a bit different than mine? why do we want to keep people pacified when we could be facing alot of destruction? we should be looking for ways to stop this on all levels with all people. maybe we are.

[booga]

Quote: from Moskitto on 7:01 pm on Dec. 6, 2001
where the hell did anyone get the idea that israel spreads from morroco to iraq?

The Bible (Tohah) probably

Yeah if you've read the bible it mentions Israel being in generally the area that it's currently in.

But Morroco, The Israelis were slaves in Egypt so that isn't right.

And they were slaves in Babylon (Iraq).

So in short, anyone who thinks that don't know what they're talking about.

Anyway, Islam in it's true form is a good religion, It respects Judaism and Christianity. Even to the extent that Muslims living in Jewish areas can eat Kosher foods.

Judaism is supposed to just be a moral code not a religion to fanatically and blindly follow.

Fanatics spoil everything these day.


moskitto, stop! your impressing me. except for the part about the kosher food, now that was funny. lol :)

(Edited by booga at 8:05 pm on Dec. 6, 2001)

[Dreadnaht1]

Yeah, Booga, I agree. I live in New York and the amount of mindess patriotism and nationalism is absolutely outragous. People often tell me that 'Communism fucking sucks and you should be shot!' But usually when I ask them why they give me some bullshit on how it can't work even though it has in the past and is still working in Cuba. Mindless fucks tend to piss me off. Allthough that rage is always relieved by sitting down with a lighter and a flag with some Rage Against The Machine playing in the background. Who needs to be at peace with one's self when I've got a flag?

The ever pissed off Comrade Dread

[Moskitto]

actually Kosher is scricter than Halal.

And because prayers have to be made to god before the meat is slaughtered and Islam believes Christianity and Judaism are worshiping the same god it's ok because the prayers are being made to the same god.

Other than that i'm :confused:

[Moskitto]

People say sarcastically to me "Up Stalin" or "Hail Stalin."

When will they get it through their fucking skulls that communists do not neccecarrily support Stalin.

[kingbee]

bereco
Posted on 7:16 pm on Dec. 6, 2001
dude i don't think arafat is sending the kamikazee guys.
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arafat deosnt support hamas i dont think. but he cant do anything about them -he sent people to house arrest the leader of hamas, and people surrounded the buildind, not lettin arafats men in. the israelis can hardly balme him for not trying

[jimr]

At the start of tihs post it was stated that teh current situation in Israel, and the situation in afghanistan are completely seperate. This is just not true. Part of Bin Laden's pull to arabs is "righting the wrongs of the Israelis"

On one side we have Sharron, not exactly the ideal leader if we would like peace in our time, especially considering he led the attack on Lebenon (sorry about spelling) killing well over 10 000 civilians. We have these inner circle israeli ministers screaming death to arabs and thanks to weapons bought from everyones favourite country, they have the ability to conduct wanton acts of terrorism. The palestines that have lost their homes, their families and their possestions have nothing left, they go to the refugee camps, they meet people in hamas or what not, and THEY are the ones that conduct the sucide bombings in revenge for Palestine leaders that have been assasinated. Once again the israelis retaliate, not to create peace, but to satisfy the populus. to get revenge, to put a veil over teh eyes of teh common israelis and breed hate for teh arabs in their hearts.

On the other side we have Arafat. Generally reffered to as a moderate. And almost certainly the most moderate leader you are likely to find in Palestine. (Hense no Israeli assasination) He is being told to round up these terrorists with his police forces that Israel sanctioned them to use a few years ago. The complete hypocracy of this being that the israelis are bombing the Arafats very means of finding these suicide fanatics.

As ever America comes into this as a leading figure. Demanding Arafat apprehend these terrorists. Odd that America support Israel after so many acts of terrorism have been commited by the state. And once again, America cares nothing for lives lost, they are only in it for their own petty intrests. Israel is the only non-arab country in the middle east, America needs Israel as a strong allie if a War on Islam ever did happen. So much propoganda, so much mis-information and selective use of information has clouded the people of all of these Countries. Americans and Israelis are conditioned to believe (through various forms of patriotism) that their Countries are always right.

To me this war, whether it be a world war or not, has been brewing for a very long time now. All it is waiting for is a cataylist. Some assination that will unite one side against the others.

I have gone on for far too long and am now just typing mindless dribble, I apoligise for the lack of structure or conlcusion in this post but when talking about something i feel so strongly about such skills are lost to me

[Chancho]

jimr, you make some important points. Also, the insistence by Sharron that Arafat 'take control' is such evil political manipulation because...

It is impossible for any leader to completely control the activities of the citizenry (although yes, efforts should be made to address terrorism, but that is a completely different question)...

It implies that Arafat is directly responsible and controls the actions of 'suicide bombers' and other terrorists...

This is Sharron demanding that Palestine ensure Israeli security within Israel...

Sharron is attempting to discredit Arafat by painting him as the puppetmaster when most would acknowledge that Sharron has never had any peace plan and Arafat has been decidedly moderate.

Furthermore, is it possible to allocate territory or formalise 'peace' with a people who believe that they are 'God's chosen' and have a divine right to occupy certain land - therefore, others are seen as trespassing upon sacred land and against the word of 'God'? You can't rationalise a human solution against this background of belief!

[Avamatha]

Somebody once said, that there will be no WWIII. It's on already, not as a war as before, but it is.

I agree.

[MJM]

When Rabin was murder the whole idea of peace ever happening vanished.The Jewish state should have been formed in Germany after the war.

[CommieBastard]

I disagree, it should have been formed in either ethiopia or any one of the countries in the UN which was proposing it's creation.

(Edited by CommieBastard at 11:30 pm on Dec. 14, 2001)

[Guest]

People you have been deceived by the evil one. It is a lie that Islam is friendly to judism and christianity. Infact many christian missionaries have been executed by people of Islamic faith in various aries such as Africa, India, Indonesia, and China. If islam is such a friendly faith then why in the Qu'ran does Islam call on muslims to wage war against non-muslims in versus 2:191, 2:193, 4:66, 4:84, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15-18, 8:39, 8:59-60, 8:65, 9:2-3, 9:5, 9:14, 9:29, 9:39, 9:73,9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 37:22-23, 47:4-5,48:29, 69;30-37. Is this type of practice not worse than you peoples view of Imperialism. The next thing I have to say is this. If Americas government is so bad and evil and not good then why do we send billions of dollars to help third world countries like some of your own? Why do we allways have to bring other countries market economys into connection with ours so us bad Americans can pump hundreds of dollars of our own hard earned imperial cash into your countrys so your own industires "if you have any" can turn around make a profit off of us Americans allowing your own businesses to make life easer and better for your own people, "thats if your own government dosent hord it all or if war lords get ahold of it."I mean excuse us Americans if we helped your country built power plants in hopes it would help you. Forgive us if we spiled 50 billion of are own mens blood in World War II saving your asses from Hitler and the Nazis.

[MJM]

Quote: from Guest on 5:23 pm on Feb. 5, 2002
People you have been deceived by the evil one. It is a lie that Islam is friendly to judism and christianity. Infact many christian missionaries have been executed by people of Islamic faith in various aries such as Africa, India, Indonesia, and China. If islam is such a friendly faith then why in the Qu'ran does Islam call on muslims to wage war against non-muslims in versus 2:191, 2:193, 4:66, 4:84, 5:33, 8:12, 8:15-18, 8:39, 8:59-60, 8:65, 9:2-3, 9:5, 9:14, 9:29, 9:39, 9:73,9:111, 9:123, 25:52, 37:22-23, 47:4-5,48:29, 69;30-37. Is this type of practice not worse than you peoples view of Imperialism. The next thing I have to say is this. If Americas government is so bad and evil and not good then why do we send billions of dollars to help third world countries like some of your own? Why do we allways have to bring other countries market economys into connection with ours so us bad Americans can pump hundreds of dollars of our own hard earned imperial cash into your countrys so your own industires "if you have any" can turn around make a profit off of us Americans allowing your own businesses to make life easer and better for your own people, "thats if your own government dosent hord it all or if war lords get ahold of it."I mean excuse us Americans if we helped your country built power plants in hopes it would help you. Forgive us if we spiled 50 billion of are own mens blood in World War II saving your asses from Hitler and the Nazis.



Well What do you say to a fuckhead like this who doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about.
50 billion people, hey asshole there isn't even 50 billion people alive today.
How many people has xianity killed off- more than any other religion in history I would hazard to guess.
The USSR fucked over the nazi's -after they'd been given a free reign to kill off the commies- then the allies jumped on the band wagon and claimed victory for them selves. Fancy that, profiting off someone elses labour as normal.

[peaccenicked]

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