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Delenda Carthago
13th February 2013, 23:24
An inevitable result…The PCF at its 36th Congress, which concluded on Sunday in Paris, even renounced the hammer and sickle.

The abandonment of the hammer and sickle by the PCF did not take place at a random moment, but at a time when the authorities in many EU countries are banning the communist symbols, when the EU is attempting in an anti-historical way to equate communism with fascism. This is the moment which the “president” party of the European Left Party (ELP) chooses to willingly renounce the hammer and sickle, On 12/2, the following comment was made on this issue in the newspaper “Rizospastis”, organ of the CC of the KKE, which noted that:

The PCF long ago abandoned Marxism-Leninism and the revolutionary principles of the Communist Parties, while from its position as head of the ELP it plays the leading role in the propagation of opportunism, with aim of mutating the Communist Parties in Europe.

The GS of the PCF and President of the ELP, P. Laurent, personally made sure that he demonstrated in every way the goal of the Congress, with his statements on the LCI TV station, when he was asked about the new party identity cards, on which the hammer and sickle was replaced by the “star” of the ELP: “It's an established and revered symbol that continues to be used in all of our demonstrations, but it doesn't illustrate the reality of who we are today. It isn't so relevant to a new generation of communists.”…

Indeed after the protests of a section of the delegates which were caused by his statements, as well as by the replacement of the hammer and sickle, Laurent presented a party identity card from 1944 of the then illegal PCF, saying ironically that this one also did not have the hammer and sickle on it!

Beyond the vulgarity and degeneration of the leadership of the opportunist PCF, which is a provocation for the revolutionary communists all over the world, the essence is that the replacement on the part of the French party of the historic symbol of the communist parties is the outcome of the path it has been treading for several decades now. Methodically and stably, it has distanced itself from the theory of Marxism-Leninism, the principles of the formation and functioning of a revolutionary communist party and, what is most important, it made the management of capitalism, the unprincipled policy of alliances, the participation in bourgeois governments, its strategy, betraying the goal for the overthrow of capitalist barbarity and denigrating the struggle for socialism. It should be noted that for many years tendencies and platforms have operated within the PCF in the name of pluralism and democracy… i.e. it has no relation with a communist party but continues the tradition of euro-communism.

The PCF has irrevocably betrayed the working class and popular strata in France. It has governed together with the social-democrats on two occasions, contributing to the attacks on the French people, while systematically, since then, providing assistance to social-democracy, calling on the workers to support those forces which are digging the pit to throw the workers in. In the face of the crisis, the PCF seeks “development”, concealing that this will take place in conditions where the labour rights will literally be flattened and a real hell will be created for the working class.

But the working class in every country can determine its own future and enjoy the wealth it produces and not live in conditions which belong to bygone eras. But the CP must, as the vanguard of the working class, have a strategy for the overthrow of capitalism, for socialism. It must have a plan to concentrate and prepare forces, even today, for this goal. In the final analysis it must prepare the working class itself and its allies to realize this goal. This has nothing to do with whatever the opportunist PCF says about “communism of the new generation”, with “democracy”, “socialism” which denies the scientific laws of socialist construction, and the impossible prospect of a humanized capitalism which it propagates.






Communists all over Europe must draw conclusions from this development in the PCF, the party which is at the head of European opportunism, and fight to smash opportunism politically, ideologically and organizationally in their countries.


http://inter.kke.gr/News/news2013/2013-02-12-galliko/

The Garbage Disposal Unit
13th February 2013, 23:45
Dark days when I find myself in agreement with the KKE.

Lenina Rosenweg
14th February 2013, 01:03
The PCF is just admitting what has been true for decades. They supported French imperialism in Algeria, Tunisia, and elsewhere. The destroyed the promising revolutionary climate of 1968. Recently their condemnation of French intervention in Mali has been half heated at best.

Pelarys
14th February 2013, 01:35
Is anyone really surprised by this symptom of the PCF's tradition of opportunism?

Mather
14th February 2013, 03:03
At the end of the day the hammer and sickle is just a symbol, the PCF long ago abandoned their commitment towards working class revolution and communism.

Grigori
14th February 2013, 03:56
Yeah and the fact is that the hammer and sickle has beeen somewhat sullied by the soviets. You may as well replace the symbol for something more relateable like a gear and tractor, or a jibaro with a kalishnikov.

Questionable
14th February 2013, 04:20
Yeah and the fact is that the hammer and sickle has beeen somewhat sullied by the soviets. You may as well replace the symbol for something more relateable like a gear and tractor, or a jibaro with a kalishnikov.

I think people who are holding this stance miss the point. This isn't something that the communist parties just decided to do, it is being spearheaded by the bourgeois governments in the EU, and going along with it shows that you support them in their efforts to smear communism during a crisis of capitalism (Not Grigori or any other user personally, I mean the parties that do it).

If the communist parties just got together and decided to start dropping the hammer and sickle it would be different, I would still disagree but it would be different. However this is not the case, the bourgeoisie are trying to force this upon us, and by going along with it the PCF are showing where their loyalties really lie (As if it wasn't obvious at this point). This isn't about renouncing "Stalinism," this is about giving into political pressure.

Fourth Internationalist
14th February 2013, 05:08
I've never been a fan of the hammer and sickle, due to the history. It's exclusively the symbol of the Soviet Union to many, so to drop it would be wise (but still be communist!)

A Revolutionary Tool
14th February 2013, 05:26
I'm more surprised when the "official" Communist Parties created shortly before and after the Comintern act like communists should.

o well this is ok I guess
14th February 2013, 05:35
Nearly every cp west of the wall dropped the hammer sickle. Whatever, man.

Q
14th February 2013, 05:38
Dropping the symbol is a itself a nice symbol of its sellout.

Sasha
14th February 2013, 08:08
I find it way more obscene that the dutch centrist "labour" party still has a little fist hidden inside their rose symbol.

TheRedAnarchist23
14th February 2013, 09:26
Nearly every cp west of the wall dropped the hammer sickle. Whatever, man.

Actualy most communist parties in western europe still use the hammer and sickle.

TheEmancipator
14th February 2013, 09:31
The UK Labour Party has Lenin inside their rose psycho!

Standard stuff for the PCF, who are probably holding off the threat of being swallowed by Mélenchon's Parti de Gauche. The hammer and sickle is already associated with Stalinism in France and Western Europe so the EU won't have much work to do.

Any leftist in France should have voted for the NPA until its extinction. Led by a factory worker, and doesn't hang to the Marxist-Leninist proposals of yesteryear, instead striving for a new, better world. My only issue is with its name (Nouveau Parti Anticapitalist) which implies some kind of reactionary movement.

Sasha
14th February 2013, 10:53
The UK Labour Party has Lenin inside their rose psycho!



when i looked it up i could see it :grin: but thats more of a bad caricature so i assume is coincidental, the PVDA fist is intentional: https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/2705277319/4a7fed5e3f6702913033f43bee78db85.jpeg

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
14th February 2013, 11:20
Hoxha was right, Eurocommunism really is Anticommunism.

Luís Henrique
14th February 2013, 11:54
Well, I think it is just right that the PCF is abandoning the hammer and sickle.

It's a matter of justice; after all, hammer and sickle have abandoned them for at the very least eight decades.

Luís Henrique

Ethics Gradient, Traitor For All Ages
14th February 2013, 12:48
I can see the threat posed by state authorities to further discredit communism during a crisis, but the communists themselves have done more damage than the bourgeoisie could have dreamed. The hammer and sickle does not even correspond to a type of life most westerners experience anymore, and is weighed down with an enormous amount of historical baggage. There are much more alarming developments on the horizon.

Clarion
14th February 2013, 17:27
There's nothing wrong with updating their image if it will allow them to engage with the workers without all the baggage getting in the way.

TheEmancipator
14th February 2013, 17:49
Do you guys seriously think the hammer and sickle is relevant in Western Europe? It has clearly been replaced with the mouse and keyboard. The proletariat in Europe is nigh-gone, instead we must talk of "proletarisation" of certain social classes.

Ismail
14th February 2013, 19:49
It wasn't until 1996 that the Socialist Party of Albania (which succeeded the Party of Labour of Albania in 1991) formally renounced Marxism-Leninism, when in practice it obviously renounced Marxism-Leninism in deeds from its establishment. Revisionism couches itself in "Marxist" ideology, only to gradually discard it as time goes on. Removing the hammer and sickle is just an aesthetic move at this point, one indicating the continuous right-wing march of the PCF.

Delenda Carthago
14th February 2013, 21:41
There's nothing wrong with updating their image if it will allow them to engage with the workers without all the baggage getting in the way.
Yes. Thats why they did it.

Yuppie Grinder
14th February 2013, 21:43
Yeah and the fact is that the hammer and sickle has beeen somewhat sullied by the soviets. You may as well replace the symbol for something more relateable like a gear and tractor, or a jibaro with a kalishnikov.

A beer bottle and a tv remote would be a more accurate symbol for the modern proletariat.

Clarion
14th February 2013, 22:30
Perhaps your personal symbol should be a keyboard and a trollface?

Luís Henrique
15th February 2013, 10:44
A beer bottle and a tv remote would be a more accurate symbol for the modern proletariat.

It's a symbol, it is not a picture. Probably was never accurate, at least concerning the hammer - how much hammerwork would it be necessary in a mid-19th century textile plant?

Accordingly, the PCF's dereliction of the symbol is also symbolic. And I don't think it needs too much intellectual effort to understand what does it symbolise... or to realise that it is symbolic of something that has been happening for a long, long time.

Ah, yes... the hammer and sickle are also a recast of an older theme, that of the cross. Not only in the geometrical shape, but also in depicting instruments of torture.

Luís Henrique

Die Neue Zeit
16th February 2013, 20:02
Do you guys seriously think the hammer and sickle is relevant in Western Europe? It has clearly been replaced with the mouse and keyboard. The proletariat in Europe is nigh-gone, instead we must talk of "proletarisation" of certain social classes.


A beer bottle and a tv remote would be a more accurate symbol for the modern proletariat.

Don't left parties in Europe, genuine or otherwise, use red stars anyway?