Marxism, Get Yer Marxism Here!

[Zanthorus]

Step right up folks and join the revolutionary left! That's right folks, for a short time only, we're offering you your very own, personalised, bowlderised, academicised, lobotomised, circumcised revolutionary ideology! Are you tired of always having to subscribe to all those boring things like political positions or philosophical underpinnings or just generally beliefs about the world? Are you interested in Marxism but tired of all those old passé slogans about proletarian revolution and the materialist conception of history? Maybe you want to be an Anarchist but you're bored of having to believe in the nature of the state as an alien institution all the time?

We took one revolutionary movement, put it through years of splits, squabbles and scrabbling by academics to 'salvage' this or that aspect of it's theory without having to subscribe to the whole deal and allowing them their ritual of proving how undogmatic they really are, and came up with a pre-packaged formula that allows you to be a revolutionary from the comfort of your own home. Perhaps you're a struggling academic who needs something to give their works that little extra flare or you want to post obsessively on leftist internet forums and get them to agree with you to inflate your own declining sense of self worth? With our patented formula you too can be a revolutionary from your own home! So join the revolutionary left today - only £9.99 plus £1.99 quarterly subscription fee.

[Ostrinski]

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[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

When will the DLC be available?

[Os Cangaceiros]

"bowlderised"?

[Ostrinski]

I'm getting the impression that this is a somewhat passive-aggressive/subliminal knock at some user or other

[Art Vandelay]

I'm getting the impression that this is a somewhat passive-aggressive/subliminal knock at some user or other

Could be me since I've been posting today about joining a party..:confused:

[Red Commissar]

fuck this shit I'm going to torrent it

[Revoltorb]

"bowlderised"?

From wiktionary:



etymology

from thomas bowdler, who in 1818 published a censored version of shakespeare, expurgating "those words and expressions... Which cannot with propriety be read aloud in a family."
...


verb

bowdlerize (third-person singular simple present bowdlerizes, present participle bowdlerizing, simple past and past participle bowdlerized)


to remove or alter those parts of a text considered offensive, vulgar, or otherwise unseemly. the bowdlerized version of the novel, while free of vulgarity, was also free of flavor.

[Os Cangaceiros]

It's a good word.

[Zanthorus]

Can't believe that OC has never heard the word 'bowlderised' before.


I'm getting the impression that this is a somewhat passive-aggressive/subliminal knock at some user or other

Nah, not my style at all. I don't deal politically with particular individuals except insofar as they are representatives of universal modes of thought.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I feel ashamed in light of my naked ignorance. I hope people will find it in their hearts to forgive this intellectual transgression. :crying:

[Blake's Baby]

... Perhaps ... you want to post obsessively on leftist internet forums and get them to agree with you to inflate your own declining sense of self worth? ...

I protest, I post obsessively to get people to disagree with me in order to inflate my declining sense of self-worth. Otherwise, I'd be posting political opinions people might have a chance of agreeing with.

@OS - the revolutionary watchword is 'brush up your Shakespeare, start quoting him now'.

[Rafiq]

I don't know what particular current of thought this was directed against, but recognizing that the materialist conception of history is not a component of communist ideology is essential in understanding both communism and materialism. Recognizing that Marxism and Communism are not interchangeable (as the latter is in nature proletarian, while the former is a means of recognizing class nature itself) is essential in understanding both Communism and Marxism. I don't see the problem in recognizing that there is more to Marxism than a cannon used on behalf of revolutionary communists, i.e. the materialist conception of history, for one, isn't ideological rhetoric that exists to serve the revolution in the intellectual or even scientific field. Though I do agree that users shouldn't be too attached to this site in the sense that their positions as a whole are a reflection of positions solely on this site and so on. I'm stupid for asking (as I don't understand what this is directed against) so forgive me, but is this an attack on non-doctrinaire marxism? Coming into terms and re establishing the Marxism that existed before the failure of the October Revolution (pre-leninist marxism) is of absolute necessity. The aim of Marxists today should be the purging of ideology from Marxism and recognizing the that withoutmediocre form of class consciousness (which would allow us to build off of) there is absolutely nothing we can do to spark the fire necessary for building the basis of the revolution. Even then, Marxism is necessary to understand capitalist social relations and the nature of existing conditions (in order for us to build revolutionary consciousness and a mass movement). Marxism is necessary for Communists in the same way early forms of the scientific method and bourgeois rationalism were necessary for liberalists.

[Red Commissar]

That's the longest post I've read in chit chat I think.

[Blake's Baby]

Well, you know Rafiq, he's not a Chit-Chat kinda guy.

[Comrade Samuel]

fuck this shit I'm going to torrent it

Ideology piracy is a serious crime.

[Thirsty Crow]

I don't know what particular current of thought this was directed against...



That's right folks, for a short time only, we're offering you your very own, personalised, bowlderised, academicised, lobotomised, circumcised revolutionary ideology!


We took one revolutionary movement, put it through years of splits, squabbles and scrabbling by academics to 'salvage' this or that aspect of it's theory without having to subscribe to the whole deal and allowing them their ritual of proving how undogmatic they really are, and came up with a pre-packaged formula that allows you to be a revolutionary from the comfort of your own home.


Perhaps you're a struggling academic who needs something to give their works that little extra flare or you want to post obsessively on leftist internet forums and get them to agree with you to inflate your own declining sense of self worth?

Gee, I wonder.

And good to see a separation between theory and practice yet again asserted, which is what is being attacked in the form of impotent academicism in OP's ironic take on it.

[goalkeeper]

I don't know what particular current of thought this was directed against, but recognizing that the materialist conception of history is not a component of communist ideology is essential in understanding both communism and materialism. Recognizing that Marxism and Communism are not interchangeable (as the latter is in nature proletarian, while the former is a means of recognizing class nature itself) is essential in understanding both Communism and Marxism. I don't see the problem in recognizing that there is more to Marxism than a cannon used on behalf of revolutionary communists, i.e. the materialist conception of history, for one, isn't ideological rhetoric that exists to serve the revolution in the intellectual or even scientific field. Though I do agree that users shouldn't be too attached to this site in the sense that their positions as a whole are a reflection of positions solely on this site and so on. I'm stupid for asking (as I don't understand what this is directed against) so forgive me, but is this an attack on non-doctrinaire marxism? Coming into terms and re establishing the Marxism that existed before the failure of the October Revolution (pre-leninist marxism) is of absolute necessity. The aim of Marxists today should be the purging of ideology from Marxism and recognizing the that withoutmediocre form of class consciousness (which would allow us to build off of) there is absolutely nothing we can do to spark the fire necessary for building the basis of the revolution. Even then, Marxism is necessary to understand capitalist social relations and the nature of existing conditions (in order for us to build revolutionary consciousness and a mass movement). Marxism is necessary for Communists in the same way early forms of the scientific method and bourgeois rationalism were necessary for liberalists.

do you turn up to picket lines of workers and tell them that their "objective historical mission is the abolition of the existing order and its replacement with proletarian dictatorship which is nothing but the drums beats of terror in the heart of the bourgeoisie and to say other way is Liberal-bougeois idealism of the most renegade variety"?

[goalkeeper]

Well, you know Rafiq, he's not a Chit-Chat kinda guy.

Nor a paragraph kinda guy

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

I put a Che on it.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Orgulloso de estar entre el proletariado
es difícil llegar a fin de mes
y tener que sudar y sudar
"pa" ganar nuestro pan.

Guess what language that is in.

[Sand Castle]

I personally prefer the CWIWLEPFSAL Party USA (Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Hoxhaist-Castroist, Fight Back) for a Bolivarian Front. It's a member of the 5,004th International (as in Buffalo, NY and down the road in Ontario, international). In Spanish it's the Partido de CTITLIPLSLA de EE.UU (Marxista-Leninista-Maoista-Hoxhaista-Fidelista, Luchar) por un Frente Bolivariano. We split off from the original CWIWLEPFSAL which itself split from the Trotskyist League 3% Off (TL3O) which split from the ISO and merged with a guy who split from WWP which split from SWP which split from a collective that did the lawn for a commune that split from the CPUSA.

We just call ourselves the CWIWLEPFSALPUSA (MLMHC,FB) BF for short.

Our newspaper is called the The Snooze Button.

We are the ONLY revolutionary party on the planet. Our 2 and a half members are the most advanced element of the proletariat. The rest of the world's workers need to listen to us and study our program. They will inevitably demand our leadership.

We just need to circulate The Snooze Button, the only radical paper, once a month. We should also take pictures of ourselves with signs and our mouths opened and our arms going every which way. Anything less is revisionist, or Stalinist, or something.