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human strike
1st February 2013, 15:02
Last night Bristol SWP effectively voted to censure long-dead Bolshevik Grigory Zinoviev. The motion itself condemned "a model based on Syriza in Greece, the Mensheviks or other Centrist or left reformist tendencies." But the proposer used the opportunity to polemicise against Zinoviev for breaking party discipline and speaking outside the party. Ironically, the Bolsheviks, in whose tradition he was at pains to point out the SWP stand, didn't expel him...

I'm glad that piece of business has finally been resolutely resolved after almost 96 years of uncertainty over whether Zinoviev was in fact a bureaucratic autonomist, creeping feminist, or reformist Menshevik.

Zinoviev has actually become a contentious issue for them. As the party crumbles around they think the way to resolve the crisis is to debate whether Zinoviev should have been expelled in 1917 in order to justify the expulsions being made by the SWP presently.

Yeah, if anyone thinks that organisation isn't worth saving, I wholeheartedly agree.

l'Enfermé
1st February 2013, 19:34
I bet Kamenev is rolling in his grave because the SWP crazies didn't mention him as well.

Raúl Duke
1st February 2013, 19:45
hah, wut?

Is this a real thing?

and from a socialist party I've been told by quite a few in my time here to be quite 'important for the British left?"

There are more important things going around, more contemporary things than such minutiae as the political status of Zinoviev. For example, the current whole SWP controversy.

Prometeo liberado
1st February 2013, 23:16
This is what is right with the left! Holy fuck, taking on the problems of long since dead revolutionaries! You don't have to argue against shite organizations when they pull off crap like this. Absolutely priceless, absolute waste of time. Idiots. My heart is warm today.:grin:

Leftsolidarity
2nd February 2013, 17:12
Thread moved to Politics

Delenda Carthago
2nd February 2013, 19:30
One party's youth is running around London with Stalin posters. Another party is focusing on such bussineses. What the hell is wrong with you people on the island?:cursing:

The Idler
4th February 2013, 22:57
Which party's youth is running around London with Stalin posters?

Brutus
4th February 2013, 23:01
Which party's youth is running around London with Stalin posters?

CPGB-ml
You should watch their videos. They should be under comedy on YouTube, alas, they are not.

Ocean Seal
4th February 2013, 23:03
Word when you get censured 80 years after you are dead, you are probably a pretty cool guy, time to read this Zinoviev.

subcp
4th February 2013, 23:03
Probably Morning Star CPB?

Historical reenactment societies- exhuming corpses, necromancy, posthumous revolutionary debates (someone be my future, posthumous enemy- the living in 100 years will carry on our disagreement as the means to expel the infidels). Learning from history is not the same as living in it.