Communists Demonstrate in Turkey Against Syrian Intervention

[Althusser]

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Communists demonstrate in Turkey against Syrian intervention
Posted on January 21, 2013 by Red Youth

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Scene from the port of Iskenderun where patriot missiles are being brought into the country

The TKP (Communist Party of Turkey) has organised a series of militant demonstrations opposing the arrival of patriot missiles and the escalation of Turkey’s aggressive stance towards Syria these last few weeks. The photograph above shows workers at the port of Iskenderun where patriot missiles were arriving over the weekend. The first video which we post below is from one of the first major demonstrations which was reported by Iran’s PressTv and the subsequent video’s are of TKP activists rallying in Istanbul and other places.

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After Syria comes Iran

In 2007, retired US general Wesley Clarke revealed details of a secret Pentagon ‘Redirection strategy’ document, which proposed using 9/11 to justify launching unprovoked wars (the highest international crime) on Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Iran and Lebanon – all countries seen as obstacles to US world domination and obstacles to the raking in of maximum profits by British and US corporations.

It is clear that if the Syrian government is toppled, the attacks against Iran will be escalated into a full war – and the inevitable endgame if the juggernaut is not stopped will be a catastrophic conflagration against Russia and China. Meanwhile, those who tell us to support the Syrian ‘opposition’ are blocking our ability to effectively mobilise and sabotage the war effort, which means objectively (whether or not they mean to) they are weakening not only Syria’s chances of survival but also Iran’s.

For imperialism, Syria is a stepping stone, a gateway to Iran. And so the best defence for Iran will naturally be a victory for the Syrian government. Which means the most urgent question for the British anti-war movement today is the defence of Syria.

Iran’s envoy, Saeed Jalili, says that Iran and Syria are part of an unbreakable “axis of resistance”. We workers in Britain need to join this ‘axis of resistance’ by refusing to cooperate with the criminal war against Syria. We must refuse to fight; refuse to make or transport arms and supplies; refuse to create or broadcast war propaganda that demonises Syria’s leaders and justifies the war. And we must give full support to the Syrian and Iranian governments in defending their people against imperialism.

Statement from Syrian Communist Youth Union (http://www.revleft.com/vb/statement-syrian-communist-t177494/index.html)

[Let's Get Free]

For imperialism, Syria is a stepping stone, a gateway to Iran. And so the best defence for Iran will naturally be a victory for the Syrian government. Which means the most urgent question for the British anti-war movement today is the defence of Syria.


This article seems to be making the assumption that the regime in question is the sole thing standing between the people and colonization. It makes the assumption that the people have no investment in protecting themselves from imperialism, that they’re incapable of defending themselves from foreign exploitation. It makes the assumption that the people are simply ignorant sheep who will fold to any Western pressure. How Communists can rationalize such a deeply elitist and condescending view is a mystery to me.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

A communist party that actualy does something!

[Sasha]

So now we should support Assad in the butchering of the proletariat because its of vital importance to save the Iranian theocracy?!?
And why would that be exactly, what happened with "we should hang Khomeini with the intestines of the Shah"
I hope the TKP had at least a better motivation than the dumbfucks who wrote that inane article...

[l'Enfermé]

So now we should support Assad in the butchering of the proletariat because its of vital importance to save the Iranian theocracy?!?
And why would that be exactly, what happened with "we should hang Khomeini with the intestines of the Shah"
I hope the TKP had at least a better motivation than the dumbfucks who wrote that inane article...
lol
The TKP might be MLs, but I don't think they are so delusional. Their motivation is probably just anti-war sentiment. This particular article was written by the CPGB(ML) though(well, their "youth wing"). You know, the crazies that believe Zimbabwe is some sort of socialist state. The same people that parade in London with gigantic Stalin banners...

[Sasha]

That certainly explains...

[mxx]

German soldiers were attacked in Iskenderun by members of the youth organisation of
isci partisi, a "left" but very nationnalist party.
German press is not so amused about that :D

[Paul Pott]

Since when is Assad "butchering the proletariat" instead of fighting against a military coup backed by the west and anti-Shia Jihad sponsored by the Saudis? Why does the proletarian wing of liberalism feel the need to jump on the anti-Assad bandwagon? No leftist gives half a shit about what the media and exile "activists" say.

When was the civil war ever fought by working class forces, for or against Assad's clique? Assad did not start this war.

When did the hopeful junta leaders of the FSA, the SNC, or al-Nusra ever represent the original Syrian working class protesters, basically the same people who were on the streets in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen? Why do they meet in Qatar?

The civil war is a foreign imposition on the Syrian people. Hats off to the Turkish communists. We need to see this kind of stance against the west's proxy wars from working class movements worldwide. Once the rebels are defeated, the working class revolution, the true face of the Arab Awakening in Syria and elsewhere, will reassert itself, against the regimes of the Muslim Brotherhood, against the Islamists, the House of Saud, and the Ba'athists. The Marxist Leninist stance on Syria is pretty clear.




Resolution on the Situation in Syria


The plenary of the ICMLPO, held for the first time in Africa, reaffirms its support for the right of the Syrian people to live under a democratic regime: a regime that guarantees freedom, equality, social justice and dignity, as well as assures the unity and total independence of the country, including the recovery of the Golan Heights occupied by Zionism since 1967.
The ICMLPO:
1. Denounces the dangerous development of events in Syria. The popular movement of protest has been transformed into a destructive civil war. The bloodthirsty repression is striking the people, and since the beginning, the Assad regime has rejected any democratic reform that would satisfy the aspirations of the Syrian people. This situation is the consequence of the foreign reactionary, imperialist and Zionist intervention, through Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which masked by the so-called “Free Syrian Army” and under the pretext of “saving the Syria people”
2. We reaffirm that this war has nothing to do with the interests of the Syrian people and their aspirations. On the contrary, it serves the reactionary forces of the country, the region and internationally. Syria is at the moment the place of confrontation between, on the one side the U.S., France and Israel and Arab and Turkish reaction that are trying to subject Syria to Western rule and make it break its ties with Iran and Hezbollah. On the other side, Russia and China are supporting the regime to preserve their strategic interests in Syria and the region, after having lost their influence in Libya.
3. We reject all intervention by NATO in Syria under any pretext, given the dangers that this represents for the Syrian people, the peoples of the region and world peace in general. The Conference calls on the Turkish people to oppose Turkey’s intervention in Syria. It sends a call to the workers and peoples of the Western countries, in the first place of the United States, Great Britain and France, whose leaders are threatening military intervention in Syria, to pressure their governments to stop them from carrying out their criminal strategy that caused disasters in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, etc. in the past
4. It is up to the Syrian people, in all cases, to determine their own future. The ICMLPO calls on the Syrian patriotic and democratic forces to unite to save their country from the claws of the Assad regime and the armed gangs and to prevent the foreign powers from mortgaging their future and making use of a part of their minorities to undermine their unity. The ICMLPO calls on those forces to strive to build a new, democratic, secular, independent and united Syria in which the different religions and nationalities live together in freedom and equality.
5. Calls on the patriotic, democratic and progressive forces of the region to urgently mobilize and to undertake the necessary measures of solidarity to support the patriotic and democratic forces of Syria, forces that must act to end the slaughters perpetrated against the Syrian people, to stop the destruction of the country and prevent the foreign intervention, to facilitate dialogue among its inhabitants to achieve their aspirations and break with the tyranny and foreign domination.
Organisation pour la construction d’un parti communiste ouvrier d’Allemagne
Parti Communiste des Ouvriers du Danemark – APK
Parti Communiste d’Espagne (marxiste – léniniste) – PCE(ml)
Plateforme Communiste d’Italie
Parti Communiste des Ouvriers de France – PCOF
Organisation Marxiste Léniniste Révolution de Norvège – Revolusjon !
Parti Communiste Révolutionnaire de Turquie - TDKP
Parti des Travailleurs de Tunisie - PT
Parti Communiste Révolutionnaire de Côte d’Ivoire – PCRCI

[Red Commissar]

A communist party that actualy does something!

Anti-war protests are pretty common activities for many communist parties, I do not see how this makes them unique. I would have been more surprised if they had taken an opposite position here.

[l'Enfermé]

AntiNihilist: Assad has been butchering Syrians since the 1970s, his son is just continuing the legacy.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Since when is Assad "butchering the proletariat" instead of fighting against a military coup backed by the west and anti-Shia Jihad sponsored by the Saudis? Why does the proletarian wing of liberalism feel the need to jump on the anti-Assad bandwagon? No leftist gives half a shit about what the media and exile "activists" say.

When was the civil war ever fought by working class forces, for or against Assad's clique? Assad did not start this war.

When did the hopeful junta leaders of the FSA, the SNC, or al-Nusra ever represent the original Syrian working class protesters, basically the same people who were on the streets in Egypt, Tunisia, and Yemen? Why do they meet in Qatar?

The civil war is a foreign imposition on the Syrian people. Hats off to the Turkish communists. We need to see this kind of stance against the west's proxy wars from working class movements worldwide. Once the rebels are defeated, the working class revolution, the true face of the Arab Awakening in Syria and elsewhere, will reassert itself, against the regimes of the Muslim Brotherhood, against the Islamists, the House of Saud, and the Ba'athists. The Marxist Leninist stance on Syria is pretty clear.

Well, actual leftists, i.e. not you, jump the anti-Assad bandwagon because he is a capitalist who has butchered workers. You're using the idiotic idea that anti-imperialism means taking sides.

[Delenda Carthago]

lol
The TKP might be MLs, but I don't think they are so delusional. Their motivation is probably just anti-war sentiment. This particular article was written by the CPGB(ML) though(well, their "youth wing"). You know, the crazies that believe Zimbabwe is some sort of socialist state. The same people that parade in London with gigantic Stalin banners...
:laugh::laugh:

GTFO! Shit like that exist?!?:lol::lol::lol:

[Paul Pott]

Well, actual leftists, i.e. not you, jump the anti-Assad bandwagon because he is a capitalist who has butchered workers. You're using the idiotic idea that anti-imperialism means taking sides.

Yes, jump on the wagon towed by the west's war machine. So the rebels aren't capitalists who have butchered workers? When has the welfare of the working class ever factored into the equation of either the 'fire into crowds' loyalists of early 2011 or the rebels for sectarian massacre running parts of the country now?

The best solution for the Syrian working class is to put an end to the civil war and the Gulf oligarchy's "revolution". If that means turning against the aggressive side hungry to take power, ie the rebels, then so be it, because their obsession with killing Assad, emboldened by their sponsors, has blocked any chance of peace, leading to a pointless war in which thousands have been killed and hundreds of thousands displaced.

The working class wants peace, and so does Assad since that means staying in power for now, but the western bourgeoisie, and liberals (including you) have other things in mind, none of which involve workers' power in Syria.

Enough. It's time we set the left straight. It's you who has crossed the class lines, not me, and not the Turkish comrades. The working class's first foe is the war. I say down with the proxies.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Yes, jump on the wagon towed by the west's war machine. So the rebels aren't capitalists who have butchered workers? When has the welfare of the working class ever factored into the equation of either the 'fire into crowds' loyalists of early 2011 or the rebels for sectarian massacre running parts of the country now?

The best solution for the Syrian working class is to put an end to the civil war and the Gulf oligarchy's "revolution". If that means turning against the aggressive side hungry to take power, ie the rebels, then so be it, because their obsession with killing Assad, emboldened by their sponsors, has blocked any chance of peace, leading to a pointless war in which thousands have been killed and hundreds of thousands displaced.

The working class wants peace, and so does Assad since that means staying in power for now, but the western bourgeoisie, and liberals (including you) have other things in mind, none of which involve workers' power in Syria.

Enough. It's time we set the left straight. It's you who has crossed the class lines, not me, and not the Turkish comrades. The working class's first foe is the war. I say down with the proxies.

I attack taking sides and you respond saying that I take the rebels' side. Are you kidding me? First of all taking side's changes nothing, but I also refuse to pick a lesser evil.

[Sasha]

i dont mind picking the lesser evil from time to time, there is just no way i think the Assad regime is the lesser evil.
and there is also no way you can convince me there are just 2 monolithic blocks where we have to choose between.
that I want to see Assad strung up doesnt mean i want to see every regime-conscript let alone alawite civilians butchered just as much as that wanting to see Assad gone means i would support the salafists, MB or some imperialist proxy taking over.
hang the new rulers with the intestines of the old ones until we get our way...

[Tim Cornelis]

Yes, jump on the wagon towed by the west's war machine. So the rebels aren't capitalists who have butchered workers?

They are and they have, but you are formulating a false dichotomy. Opposition to Assad does not mean you cannot also oppose the FSA.

Incidentally, you seem to believe that the insurrection is foreignly engineered, which is absurd -- assisted, yes, engineered no.


The best solution for the Syrian working class is to put an end to the civil war and the Gulf oligarchy's "revolution". If that means turning against the aggressive side hungry to take power, ie the rebels, then so be it, because their obsession with killing Assad, emboldened by their sponsors, has blocked any chance of peace, leading to a pointless war in which thousands have been killed and hundreds of thousands displaced. The working class wants peace, and so does Assad since that means staying in power for now, but the western bourgeoisie, and liberals (including you) have other things in mind, none of which involve workers' power in Syria.

So you oppose the "Gulf oligarchy" by supporting the Syrian oligarchy, and the Iranian oligarchy, and perhaps the Russian and Chinese too?

And Assad's regime was all about "workers' power"?


Enough. It's time we set the left straight. It's you who has crossed the class lines, not me, and not the Turkish comrades. The working class's first foe is the war. I say down with the proxies.

If the first foe of the working class is the war, then Assad and his regime stepping down would be the easiest solution. It would end most bloodshed almost instantly. But clearly you don't support this so we can conclude that ending the war is not your first preference.

If Assad wants peace, why would he have sent in the military to squash then non-violent protests? It is he who started the war.

And by the way, what ever happened to no justice, no peace?

While you accuse us of supporting the FSA (which we don't) simply because we oppose Assad, it is you who does the bidding of the Syrian regime and its allies.

[Ostrinski]

I always found it supremely intriguing how the various anti-imperialist types always manage to attribute these mystical abilities to the Western powers. Like how they're able to orchestrate every single resistance movement against any government they're not getting along with.

Because, you know, those silly and inferior third world masses are too stupid to think for themselves and are so gullible that the multitude of them end up risking their lives fighting for western imperialism. And that, is why we have to support them staying under the yoke of our favorite tin pot dictator of the day.

[China studen]

Down with Erdogan!

[Rafiq]

'*Axis* of resistance'? He knows damn well of what he's saying. Though Iran does in a very bizarre way remind me of Imperial Japan (not in the expansionist sense).

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